4000ish$ PC water cooling?

[Ghost760]

So I'm planning on getting a new PC and I plan to spend around 4000$ dollars and he is the build so far. Looking for thoughts and what I have so far and water cooling help and recommendations. And I'm pretty sure the case I really wanted isn't compatible with the motherboard I have but I really appreciate someone checking over that and if correct recommending similar cases. 

 

Parts

 

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130921&ignorebbr=1

 

Cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117647&ignorebbr=1

 

Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236085&ignorebbr=1

 

Gpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127952&ignorebbr=1

 

Psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139039&ignorebbr=1

 

Storage http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K3U60461&ignorebbr=1

 

Case that I wanted http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139087&ignorebbr=1

 

[digitaldoughnut]

2 minutes ago, Ghost760 said:

So I'm planning on getting a new PC and I plan to spend around 4000$ dollars and he is the build so far. Looking for thoughts and what I have so far and water cooling help and recommendations. And I'm pretty sure the case I really wanted isn't compatible with the motherboard I have but I really appreciate someone checking over that and if correct recommending similar cases. 

 

 

You havnth given us any info about your build

[Ghost760]

Just now, digitaldoughnut said:

You havnth given us any info about your build

Accidentally clicked enter I edited it

 

[digitaldoughnut]

5 minutes ago, Ghost760 said:

So I'm planning on getting a new PC and I plan to spend around 4000$ dollars and he is the build so far. Looking for thoughts and what I have so far and water cooling help and recommendations. And I'm pretty sure the case I really wanted isn't compatible with the motherboard I have but I really appreciate someone checking over that and if correct recommending similar cases. 

 

Parts

 

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130921&ignorebbr=1

 

Cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117647&ignorebbr=1

 

Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236085&ignorebbr=1

 

Gpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127952&ignorebbr=1

 

Psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139039&ignorebbr=1

 

Storage http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K3U60461&ignorebbr=1

 

Case that I wanted http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139087&ignorebbr=1

 

Your psu is Overkill for a 6850k and gtx 1080 even 1000w psu would be enough if you wanted to do 2 way sli

[Guest]

You don't need 1200w at all. I remember the 7 gamers or 10 gamers PC only output 1300w or something with multiple GPU on it

Why not get 2 1080? Why limit to 1?

Only a single 512GB SSD? No more? ADD an extra HDD or something. 500gb is limited

[saladcrack]

That PC costs about as much as my car is worth....

[Ghost760]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

You don't need 1200w at all. I remember the 7 gamers or 10 gamers PC only game 1300w or something with multiple GPU on it

Why not get 2 1080? Why limit to 1?

Only a single 512GB SSD? No more? ADD an extra HDD or something. 500gb is limited

I forgot that I am getting two 1080

[Ghost760]

4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

You don't need 1200w at all. I remember the 7 gamers or 10 gamers PC only output 1300w or something with multiple GPU on it

Why not get 2 1080? Why limit to 1?

Only a single 512GB SSD? No more? ADD an extra HDD or something. 500gb is limited

Do I really need more storage? 512 seems fine to me 100ish for the system and misc programs and that leaves 400 gbs for games I really only play 3-4 games at a time for long periods of time.

[Guest]

Just now, Ghost760 said:

Do I really need more storage? 512 seems fine to me 100ish for the system and misc programs and that leaves 400 gbs for games I really only play 3-4 games at a time for long periods of time.

3-4 games? which games? why having an overkilled PC to play only 3-4 games? having a large collection of games to play is always nice. but it's your choice though. you can always add more storage later

[Ghost760]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

3-4 games? which games? why having an overkilled PC to play only 3-4 games? having a large collection of games to play is always nice. but it's your choice though. you can always add more storage later

overwatch mostly I play civ 6, titanfall, and star citizen occasionally 

[stealth80]

17 minutes ago, Ghost760 said:

So I'm planning on getting a new PC and I plan to spend around 4000$ dollars and he is the build so far. Looking for thoughts and what I have so far and water cooling help and recommendations. And I'm pretty sure the case I really wanted isn't compatible with the motherboard I have but I really appreciate someone checking over that and if correct recommending similar cases. 

 

Parts

 

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130921&ignorebbr=1

 

Cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117647&ignorebbr=1

 

Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236085&ignorebbr=1

 

Gpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127952&ignorebbr=1

 

Psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139039&ignorebbr=1

 

Storage http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K3U60461&ignorebbr=1

 

Case that I wanted http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139087&ignorebbr=1

 

Case isn't great for water cooling, I would also consider grabbing a lower board and higher CPU:

 

If it was me I would go more like:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6900K 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($1044.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($299.99 @ Jet)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($314.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Crucial MX300 1.1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($237.42 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  ($664.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($187.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($127.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $3157.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-09 18:47 EST-0500

 

leaves around $800 for

 

Rigid Tubing

couple of slim radiators (360)

ek supremacy cpu block

EK 1080 water block + back plate

res + pump

around 100 - 200 on fittings (compression, fill/drain and rotary 45/90 degree)

coolant

 

Pretty much same price, more storage, better cpu, more realistic PSU

 

 

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

CPU: Intel Core i7-6900K 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($1044.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Id get a 6700k or a 6800k. Those cores won't help in games at all, and you can get a second 1080.

[stealth80]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id get a 6700k or a 6800k. Those cores won't help in games at all, and you can get a second 1080.

I agree, but that combo is better than a 6850k and MSI Godlike (performance wise)

[Ghost760]

5 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

Case isn't great for water cooling, I would also consider grabbing a lower board and higher CPU:

 

If it was me I would go more like:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6900K 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($1044.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($299.99 @ Jet)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($314.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Crucial MX300 1.1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($237.42 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  ($664.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($187.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($127.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $3157.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-09 18:47 EST-0500

 

leaves around $800 for

 

Rigid Tubing

couple of slim radiators (360)

ek supremacy cpu block

EK 1080 water block + back plate

res + pump

around 100 - 200 on fittings (compression, fill/drain and rotary 45/90 degree)

coolant

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id get a 6700k or a 6800k. Those cores won't help in games at all, and you can get a second 1080.

2 1080 already fits into the price and why a 2.5 ssd for 240 instead of just going for 1 tb of m.2 for like 300$ instead?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Ghost760 said:

 

2 1080 already fits into the price and why a 2.5 ssd for 240 instead of just going for 1 tb of m.2 for like 300$ instead?

he has a samsung 950 m.2 evo there and a 2.5" at the same time

[Ghost760]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

he has a samsung 950 m.2 evo there and a 2.5" at the same time

right what I'm saying you could get a 1 tb of m.2 instead of 512gb which would be around 300$ dollars more instead of spending 240 on a sdd and its faster 

[Guest]

Just now, Ghost760 said:

right what I'm saying you could get a 1 tb of m.2 instead of 512gb which would be around 300$ dollars more instead of spending 240 on a sdd and its faster 

but 1.1tb 2.5" and 512gb costs less. that's 1.6gb not only 1tb. and you still have an m.2

[stealth80]

18 minutes ago, Ghost760 said:

right what I'm saying you could get a 1 tb of m.2 instead of 512gb which would be around 300$ dollars more instead of spending 240 on a sdd and its faster 

its the m.2 you had I just added another 1.1tb for extra storage.

[Zyndo]

48 minutes ago, Ghost760 said:

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What is the purpose of this machine? If you're looking for strictly a gaming rig, you could save yourself a bunch of money and go with the better skylake 6700k. game scale extremely poorly with the extra cores X99 has, and better with the higher frequencies that skylake has. You may also wish to wait for Kaby Lake or AMD's new offerings since those should be pretty close around the corner, same with the 1080ti (which should be announced or released on Jan 4th).

 

That being said, your current build is fine if that is what you want. the 570X isn't the greatest case for a custom loop, but it definitely has good radiator support in the front, and acceptable support in the top so long as you're checking your clearances (pretty much any thickness 360mm in front no problem, thin 240 in top but you gotta watch for RAM interference). You probably won't use 1200W, but its good to have the headroom assuming you're going to overclock your system as hard as you can. at the very least it'll probably get you a more efficient spot on your power curve.

 

Also the 950 pro is awesome, but Samsung should be releasing the 960 evo and 960 pro, which are considerably faster than the 950 pro and offer larger capacities, at some point later this month/earlier in January.

 

 

but my recommendation would be to wait if you don't need to rush this system. get Kaby Lake, get 1080ti's, get a samsung 960 instead of 950, and be awesome =)

[lh99]

To be honest, you don´t look like to me as if you would have much of an idea about the pc building world. If you don´t have any idea, 4000dollars is just way to much, and to build yourself a watercooled pc as a first time builder, especially with those valuable parts is a huge challenge and risk. Now let´s get back to my recommendations on the build. The mb is good, but you rly rly rly honestly don´t need it, go with an msi x99a gaming 9 or x power or so instead they are like 200 dollars cheaper. Your cpu is completet nonsense, if you don´t plan on using multiple gpus the 6800k is enough, you dont need those extra 12 pcie lanes, saves you another 200 bucks. Yeah memory idk, if it is your style and you care about the looks of it then go for this. And now comes the tricky part, you picked a gpu with a pre attached water block, so why don´t u list the other water cooling components, i would suggest all ek, so an supremarcy evo waterblock(in the style you like), and a 360 or 280 radiator(should be enough), if you have a case that supports it you can also go with 2 280s. Your case doesn´t support E-Atx motherboards, go with phanteks enthoo pro-m if you dont care about the looks, or sth else, the only important thing is , that it supports e-atx for those big expensive x99 mb´s. Don´t meant to be mean, you just don´t seem like if you have so much idea of what u are doing:)

 

Oh and i forgot to mention the psu, 1200w is way to much, go with sth around 700-800w in case you want to expand any time. Be quiet and platimax are good sellers out of my own experience. 

[Aereldor]

I hope you aren't serious. This is way too much to spend on a whole gaming setup, let alone just the tower. If you know what you're talking about when investing $4000 in a PC, I'm going to assume you have a monitor, operating system, and peripherals, so here you are-

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6950X 3.0GHz 10-Core Processor  ($1599.79 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($87.49 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH X99 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($296.20 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 910 Series Ramsdale 800GB PCI-E Solid State Drive  ($408.76 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($460.20 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($179.99 @ Corsair) 
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($148.99 @ Jet) 
Other: GTX 1080 Ti (pricing is speculative) ($750.00)
Total: $4101.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-09 19:23 EST-0500

However, realistically, this is what I recommend. It also includes everything you need to get gaming (a monitor, peripherals, a Windows key, and a great pair of headphones). It'll max out any game at this resolution and get solid framerates, and allows room for overclocking. Paired with a 3440x1440 IPS monitor, this will result in an incredible gaming experience. It even allows room for overclocking, and will be able to handle video editing/rendering and other intensive tasks without a hitch. I even kept your case.

 

This is all for just over half your budget. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($227.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING 3X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($122.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($119.00 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital Black 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($179.99 @ Corsair) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($55.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: AOC U3477PQU 34.0" 3440x1440 60Hz Monitor  ($549.99 @ Jet) 
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K65 Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($54.99 @ Best Buy) 
Headphones: Sennheiser HD 598 SE  Headphones  ($147.43 @ Amazon) 
Other: Windows 10 OEM Key (Kinguin) ($25.00)
Total: $2262.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-09 19:39 EST-0500

[Zyndo]

1 minute ago, lh99 said:

To be honest, you don´t look like to me as if you would have much of an idea about the pc building world. If you don´t have any idea, 4000dollars is just way to much, and to build yourself a watercooled pc as a first time builder, especially with those valuable parts is a huge challenge and risk.

a $4000 dollar PC is completely reasonable. Sure, you can get a pretty good machine for 1k, and the diminishing returns on dollar:performance hit you pretty damn hard after $1500, but that doesn't mean a 4000 dollar PC is useless or wasteful or "way too much"... I myself have a second job during the winters in order to pay for my PC hobbying so i can afford systems like that. Perhaps this guy is doing something similar, or maybe hes just straight up rich. $4000 is not too much, especially if you consider the cost of a monitor and a quality full custom loop.

 

4 minutes ago, lh99 said:

your cpu is completet nonsense, if you don´t plan on using multiple gpus the 6800k is enough, you dont need those extra 12 pcie lanes, saves you another 200 bucks

even if he is going to use 2 GPU's, unless he is using advanced programs and applications for specific compute/render tasks, then x8/x8 GPU's perform essentially the same as x16/x16 GPU's. I agree that he should probably get a 6800k and not a 6850k, but its not a conditional thing (and he should probably get a 6700k if hes just going to game).

 

6 minutes ago, lh99 said:

The mb is good, but you rly rly rly honestly don´t need it, go with an msi x99a gaming 9 or x power or so instead they are like 200 dollars cheaper.

There are reasons to go with better motherboards. Better overclocking for one (although usually you don't get a whole lot more out of a premium motherboard vs a mid-range one). Performance aside, there could very well be features or aesthetics that he is willing to spend extra for in order to get.

 

8 minutes ago, lh99 said:

And now comes the tricky part, you picked a gpu with a pre attached water block, so why don´t u list the other water cooling components

a full list of water cooling components is a very tedious thing to throw together link-by-link. perhaps he already has that sorted and was just looking for advice on the core components. perhaps he is going to finalize that after the core components are finalized. Perhaps he has no idea how to go about doing it, and this is the purpose of the thread, to get help and advice on how to select the parts for the loop.

 

 

 

You sure make a lot of assumptions in your post. Just remember that its his $4000 dollars, not your $4000 dollars. He can spend it on whatever he wants for whatever reason he wants. to say that he has no idea what he is doing simply because he has a large budget is pretty outrageous. Yes he has very expensive components in a lot of areas on this build, but alot of them (such as the "overpriced" motherboard) is arguably the best X99 motherboard on the market today. You could debate whether or not its worth its pricetag, but its definitely not a bad component. everything in this system is sensible if you don't factor in the extreme pricetags that go along with them. Tough to say that "he doesn't know what hes doing" when he merely has a large budget to build the system with.

 

Yes a custom cooling loop is always difficult for first timers, but previous PC building experience is of almost no help when actually installing a custom loop for the first time. they are two completely different activities. One is like building IKEA furniture, one is like plumbing. very different indeed.

[Aereldor]

19 minutes ago, lh99 said:

phanteks enthoo pro-m if you dont care about the looks

It may not be as fancy as the 570x, but the Enthoo Pro M is an incredibly handsome case.

[Zyndo]

10 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

However, realistically, this is what I recommend. It also includes everything you need to get gaming (a monitor, peripherals, a Windows key, and a great pair of headphones). It'll max out any game at this resolution and get solid framerates, and allows room for overclocking. Paired with a 3440x1440 IPS monitor, this will result in an incredible gaming experience. It even allows room for overclocking, and will be able to handle video editing/rendering and other intensive tasks without a hitch. If you really want to, you can spend a little more and get the Corsair 570x, but I think the S340 presents much better value.

You, along with @lh99, appear to miss the entire point of what this guy wants in his system. remember, its HIS computer and HIS money, not yours... Your recommended build makes no sense for what he wants. why suggest a 6600k+1070 with a mediocre monitor when he has so much more money to spend? You're never going to get to experience the joy of high refresh rate gaming with hardware choices like that. I don't know that @Ghost760 necessarily wants a high refresh rate gaming machine, but to tell him he doesn't need it, or shouldn't want, it is just silly. he also stated he wants SLI. he also stated he wants a custom water cooling loop. why insist on the S340 over the 570X when it has very minimal water cooling support? why the CX550M (t3 PSU) instead of a T1 PSU which can offer more stability and enough wattage for SLI?

 

I mean the list goes on and on. You guys need to remember, this is HIS computer that he wants... not YOUR computer that you would like. Try to tailor things to what he is asking for.

[lh99]

7 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

Better overclocking for one

nope, msi xpower lineup is better for oc when he is going for LN2 so he can notice the difference. Also, not to offend you or so, but usually the peoples with such a large budget, don´t ask in a forum for advice on their build and don´t even check the compatibility of their case and mb. Usually they are just searching for a advice on a build they dream about, but will never happen, is my experience so far. But it is possible that he does want to spend that much, but either way i can only recommend to him to overthink the whole thing if he really needs all that power and wants to spend 4k on a pc, thats marginally better than a pc for 2k. Because that is also an issue with people just getting into pc building, that they often shop for products that they will never use. Of course everybody can waste his money the way he wants and i won´t hold him at gunpoint screaming at him to not do it. Previous pc building experience isn´t a great help by installing a water loop, but for getting the pc together at first, which of course is easy to do, but still a lot that can go wrong.