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Haswell Refresh or Skylake combo, please answer ASAP :)

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Since you already bought your GPU, there's no point in saving for one at the moment. I'd go with the newer platform, because of DDR4, SATA Express, and especially because the Skylake kit you showed us has 16GB of RAM. Believe me, 8GB will soon not be able to cut it anymore, if you're gaming. For instance, I was playing Mankind Divided last night, and after five minutes of gameplay the stuttering commenced. I checked my OSD and it showed 7980MB of RAM usage...

Guys, came across some offers yesterday late evening so today have to decide between:

 

1. i5-6600k + MSI z170a Krait 3x + 16gb Crucial DDR4 21333 = 345$

or

2. i5-4690k + Gigabyte  Z97P-D3 + 8gb DDR3 (dunno mhz) = 260$

 

Plz bomb me with answers :D 1 or 2?

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1 minute ago, Megah3rtz said:

1, it will give you a much better upgrade path when cannon lake comes. 

assuming it's compatible with the z170 chipset. probably won't be.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, 3DGamerOnSteam said:

assuming it's compatible with the z170 chipset. probably won't be.

better than picking a z97 and having no chance of an upgrade.

Personal build >  New-ish AMD main gaming setup           

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No love for good ol' haswell K? :D 

Have no base at the moment; only MSI gtx 1060 Armor ocv1 and Thermaltake Frio silent 14 cooler waiting at home so that Krait board would make great black-white rig for sure


I'm upgrading once a year. Just sold i5-4430 + MSI B85-G43 Gaming and thought for a while to give a good run to K haswell chip till Zen/Kaby/Cannon whatever will be cheaper next christmas :P

 

Thanks all!

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Since you already bought your GPU, there's no point in saving for one at the moment. I'd go with the newer platform, because of DDR4, SATA Express, and especially because the Skylake kit you showed us has 16GB of RAM. Believe me, 8GB will soon not be able to cut it anymore, if you're gaming. For instance, I was playing Mankind Divided last night, and after five minutes of gameplay the stuttering commenced. I checked my OSD and it showed 7980MB of RAM usage...

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My first Skylake build ladies and gentlemen.. Tadaaa!

 

 

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16gb of 2133 RAM was dirt cheap (bare naked green PCB) so I had to buy it anyway for possible future secondary builds.

 

Think to go grab these today on discount 140€ but will they work with my mobo Krait 3x?

http://www.corsair.com/en/vengeance-lpx-8gb-2x4gb-ddr4-dram-4133mhz-c19-memory-kit-red-cmk8gx4m2b4133c19r

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On 12/2/2016 at 0:37 PM, huilun02 said:

How is an i7 Haswell setup? 

Sure, going LGA 1151 now means it can accept the next one or two generation of processors. But do you intend to upgrade the CPU within that time frame? And why only 8GB of DDR3? I suppose you already have 8GB of an unknown speed.

 

Going i5 Haswell means savings that could go toward other critical components, like a more powerful graphics card. 

Thanks for elaborating. I'm always building bang-for-the-buck hence Haswell came into consideration. In reality I don't need Skylake performance but then again I came across 6600k and Krait mobo on sale.. Then happens to be color match too with existing cooler, gpu and case so what the heck let it be my new white-black-range main rig! Also never built color matching miniATX rig before..some evenings to spend with fitting, detailing then OCing

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On 12/2/2016 at 1:46 PM, Bloody-George said:

Since you already bought your GPU, there's no point in saving for one at the moment. I'd go with the newer platform, because of DDR4, SATA Express, and especially because the Skylake kit you showed us has 16GB of RAM. Believe me, 8GB will soon not be able to cut it anymore, if you're gaming. For instance, I was playing Mankind Divided last night, and after five minutes of gameplay the stuttering commenced. I checked my OSD and it showed 7980MB of RAM usage...

I'll have 16gb sometimes next week but (today think to go buy these (great sale atm)..just not sure whether they can scale down to 3400-3600mhz which is max my mobo supports?

 

http://www.corsair.com/en/vengeance-lpx-8gb-2x4gb-ddr4-dram-4133mhz-c19-memory-kit-red-cmk8gx4m2b4133c19r)

 

Edit: Nah.. will go for slower but double in size and save 50 bucks too. Just have to paint yellow Vengeance logos into white:

https://www.forit.ro/memorii/corsair/128735-vengeance-lpx-black-16gb-ddr4-3000mhz-cl15-dual-channel-kit/?ref=pricero&utm_source=price-ro&utm_medium=pricegrabbers&utm_campaign=Memorii&utm_content=Corsair&utm_term=Vengeance+LPX+Black+16GB+DDR4+3000MHz+CL15+Dual+Channel+Kit

 

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On 04/12/2016 at 5:42 AM, Tandaralandara said:

I'll have 16gb sometimes next week but (today think to go buy these (great sale atm)..just not sure whether they can scale down to 3400-3600mhz which is max my mobo supports?

 

http://www.corsair.com/en/vengeance-lpx-8gb-2x4gb-ddr4-dram-4133mhz-c19-memory-kit-red-cmk8gx4m2b4133c19r)

 

Edit: Nah.. will go for slower but double in size and save 50 bucks too. Just have to paint yellow Vengeance logos into white:

https://www.forit.ro/memorii/corsair/128735-vengeance-lpx-black-16gb-ddr4-3000mhz-cl15-dual-channel-kit/?ref=pricero&utm_source=price-ro&utm_medium=pricegrabbers&utm_campaign=Memorii&utm_content=Corsair&utm_term=Vengeance+LPX+Black+16GB+DDR4+3000MHz+CL15+Dual+Channel+Kit

 

There's not much gain for high-frequency RAM in gaming - although some wild mouths claim that memory with higher frequency paired up with locked CPUs can produce surprisingly good performance in some games. Anyway, good old 2133Mhz is enough; but if you're the power-demanding kind of bloke, you can find reasonably cheap 2400Mhz or 3000Mhz dimms. 

 

On 04/12/2016 at 5:15 AM, Tandaralandara said:

My first Skylake build ladies and gentlemen.. Tadaaa!

Congrats, mate! That Krait motherboard is so amazing in every regard. The titanium chokes can really guarantee smooth overclocking capability and power efficiency. Way to go!

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Finish. Happy with outcome of white-black-orange theme and it's fast @ 1080p high-ultra everywhere and very quiet even when gaming; inaudible in Windows and internet browsing.

It's a small ATX case, fits into big IKEA bag when transporting it :)


*pending installation of Corsair white led RAM and AF120 white led fans

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