Which has better performance?

[Whiteout]

Which of these builds has better performance in 1080p gaming, video editing, and streaming/gameplay recording?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/WhiteoutDota/saved/MVTJxr

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/WhiteoutDota/saved/X7zNGX

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Recommendations on changes are also welcome

[anybodykek]

second build.

[NTDaws]

Second

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Just now, Dawson Wehage said:

Second

 

4 minutes ago, anybodykek said:

second build.

Even in video editing and streaming, when a higher core processor may hold up better? And the R9 Fury is a better GPU than the 1060...

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Just now, wrathoftheturkey said:

Second, across the board

Can you explain why?

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Just now, Whiteout said:

 

Even in video editing and streaming, when a higher core processor may hold up better? And the R9 Fury is a better GPU than the 1060...

It will be fine, but just for safety you could upgrade that to a 6600 or 6600k with a overclockable motherboard.

[anybodykek]

1 minute ago, Whiteout said:

 

Even in video editing and streaming, when a higher core processor may hold up better? And the R9 Fury is a better GPU than the 1060...

An i5 with 4 strong cores is still better than 8 weak FX cores. It may do better in artificial benchmarks, but not rendering. And the R9 Fury is a last generation GPU. I wouldn't buy a last gen GPU brand new.

 

The i5 build contains all brand new parts and architectures. While the FX build is around 2-3 years old.

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Just now, Whiteout said:

Can you explain why?

Because the i5 6500 even having less core than the FX but each of them performs way better than each weak core of the FX, that's why

 

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1 minute ago, anybodykek said:

An i5 with 4 strong cores is still better than 8 weak FX cores. It may do better in artificial benchmarks, but not rendering. And the R9 Fury is a last generation GPU. I wouldn't buy a last gen GPU brand new.

The R9 Fury maybe last gen, but it outperforms the 1060, and only lags behind the 1070. I can swap the GPU out, but I would think the REALLY good price for a GPU close in power to the 1070 is worth consitering.

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Just now, wrathoftheturkey said:

The 6500 performs better than the 8320 (which runs on a ridiculously old architecture now) in basically everything except editing, since editing benefits so much from additional cores, in which the 8320 will perform slightly better, not enough to warrant jumping on a dead train as far as chipset and RAM go. The R9 Fury performs better than thhe 1060

 

Well, true, but for editing the extra cores will still let the FX pull out ahead

Maybe. But not for gaming. He will want to edit gaming clips most likely and having poor gaming performance leads to poor video quality which is useless even having a better editing processor

[anybodykek]

http://hwbench.com/vgas/geforce-gtx-1060-vs-radeon-r9-fury\

1060 6G vs Fury. And plus, a stronger CPU is better for editing. Better power consumption and lower price are two things to take into account.

[stationvsbox]

amd build

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1 minute ago, Whiteout said:

The R9 Fury maybe last gen, but it outperforms the 1060, and only lags behind the 1070. I can swap the GPU out, but I would think the REALLY good price for a GPU close in power to the 1070 is worth consitering.

Put the R9 Fury in the second build, because the i5 will be far better for what you want to do. And the FX 8320E has 4 modules, 8 cores and will frequently act like a uad core. Also, a locked i7 would be even better again-in all areas.

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3 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Put the R9 Fury in the second build, because the i5 will be far better for what you want to do. And the FX 8320E has 4 modules, 8 cores and will frequently act like a uad core. Also, a locked i7 would be even better again-in all areas.

Okay I can swap out the AMD processor, do you recommend a motherboard? I would like to keep prices down as much as possible.

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1 minute ago, Whiteout said:

Okay I can swap out the AMD processor, do you recommend a motherboard? I would like to keep prices down as much as possible.

A motherboard for the Intel CPU? Go for the absolute cheapest motherboard.

[SkilledRebuilds]

You would be surprised how far behind each core's performance is on AMD FX without overclocking or not hitting full boost all the time on a stock cooler.

ie Stock Intel CPU vs Stock AMD CPU with "cooling on a budget'

Some game genres/game engines are worse than others in threading abilities as well,...it has always been a game to game situation. Banking on more cores doesn't always mean your game is using them... which does indeed suck.

 

Even in Editing..... the i5 isn't THAT much slower, IMO not enough to warrant getting an FX and losing that sweet IPC for Gaming (10fps+ Average improvement, less frequent dips to minfps)

 

MOST...if not ALL...Editing/Encoding software your GOING to be using, also uses GPU-assisted encoding, (while either reducing the CPU load or still using 90%+ of it and the GPU) This also bridges the gap between these CPU's for these tasks.

 

I'd love to do a video comparing video editing on a Haswell/Skylake i5 (low range i5 & highrange i5) vs both the FX 6300 and FX8350 (stock and overclocked)

 

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2 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

You would be surprised how far behind each cores performance is on AMD FX without overclocking, ie Stock vs Stock "on a budget'

Some game genres/game engines are worse than others,...it has always been a game to game situation.

 

Even in Rendering..... the i5 isn't THAT much slower, IMO not enough to warrant getting an FX and losing that sweet IPC for Gaming (10fps+ Average improvement, less frequent dips to minfps)

 

MOST...if not ALL...Editing/Encoding software your GOING to be using, also uses GPU-assisted encoding, (while either reducing the CPU load or still using 90%+ of it and the GPU) This also bridges the gap between these CPU's for these tasks.

 

I'd love to do a video comparing video editing on a Haswell/Skylake i5 (low range i5 & highrange i5) vs both the FX 6300 and FX8350 (stock and overclocked)

Keep in mind your after an overall experience, not just great in one strength with many weaknesses.

You do have a point. I will definitely swap out for an i5. Do you recommend a motherboard? And what do you think of the GPU?

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9 minutes ago, Whiteout said:

You do have a point. I will definitely swap out for an i5. Do you recommend a motherboard? And what do you think of the GPU?

Many motherboards would suffice (Varied boards will perform the exact same within margin of error 1% or 2%)

What you look for, in How many Sata connectors, How many Fan connectors, How many Ram slots does it have vs your needs...

4Sata slots is nice, but there could be a somewhat similar priced board with 6,... just look around a certain price range,...compare supported motherboards for feature sets you want.

 

As for the GPU, its perfect.

I've built 2x RX 470 PC's that overclocked very well, my GTX970 has served me well and my R9-290 is just as awesome in my HTPC.

In saying all that, your about better than all of them. (Give or take on the GTX970/R9-290 in AMD/Nvidia favored games) But its newer architecture than the GTX970, has better memory compression as well, more Vram, better suited to 1440p than my GTX970 which will run out of legs...and you will destroy the 1080p marketspace of games.

Plus Shadowplay (Don't get me started on how easy to use and awesome this is when you use hotkeys so simple to use, omg, so Easy!)

 

The i5 6400 I used in the RX470 builds didn't bottleneck the GPU's at all except Witcher 3's city environment (it happens to better CPU's too)

Every other thing was flawless, it seems to be a tad behind my 4690 in tasks, but not very far behind, and like I said, still fine with GPU usage.

 

Find a motherboard that encompasses all your parts (maybe future expansion, sata/usb/memoryslots more=better for similar dollars if lucky)

 

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7 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Many motherboards would suffice (Varied boards will perform the exact same within margin of error 1% or 2%)

What you look for, in How many Sata connectors, How many Fan connectors, How many Ram slots does it have vs your needs...

4Sata slots is nice, but there could be a somewhat similar priced board with 6,... just look around a certain price range,...compare supported motherboards for feature sets you want.

 

As for the GPU, its perfect.

I've built 2x RX 470 PC's that overclocked very well, my GTX970 has served me well and my R9-290 is just as awesome in my HTPC.

In saying all that, your about better than all of them. (Give or take on the GTX970/R9-290 in AMD/Nvidia favored games) But its newer architecture than the GTX970, has better memory compression as well, more Vram, better suited to 1440p than my GTX970 which will run out of legs...and you will destroy the 1080p marketspace of games.

Plus Shadowplay (Don't get me started on how easy to use and awesome this is when you use hotkeys so simple to use, omg, so Easy!)

 

The i5 6400 I used in the RX470 builds didn't bottleneck the GPU's at all except Witcher 3's city environment (it happens to better CPU's too)

Every other thing was flawless, it seems to be a tad behind my 4690 in tasks, but not very far behind, and like I said, still fine with GPU usage.

 

Find a motherboard that encompasses all your parts (maybe future expansion, sata/usb/memoryslots more=better for similar dollars if lucky)

 

Are we talking about the same thing? I was asking about the Fury, is that what you are referring to? I know the GTX 1060 is an excellent card, but do you think I should get a higher performance card in the Fury for the same price?

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5 minutes ago, Whiteout said:

Are we talking about the same thing? I was asking about the Fury, is that what you are referring to? I know the GTX 1060 is an excellent card, but do you think I should get a higher performance card in the Fury for the same price?

Ahh, I went with the 2nd build GPU,  the GTX1060 6GB (a beast), not the Fury you were talking about.

How well does the Fury record gameplay, if your interested in the ease of shadowplays use, can AMD match that recording ability with their own  or someone elses software? GPU encoding, not CPU (The 0.1% Performance Hit GPU encoding chip on board all GPU's),...

Thats one question someone who records gameplay would ask.. (I can't answer that btw) I am not longer an AMD ecosystem owner.

 

(The Fury = GTX980>GTX980OC?)

If your after balls out performance, then go with Fury if thats all you want or need.

Faster is Faster, and most would go that route...

 

But if there are other factors, like mentioned above...Research it first.

 

 

[Dabombinable]

3 hours ago, Whiteout said:

Okay I can swap out the AMD processor, do you recommend a motherboard? I would like to keep prices down as much as possible.

For the motherboard, just get whichever has the features that you want while being within your budget-because that's the only real difference between any motherboard these days. And since you'd get an i5 4660K, any overclocking could be done on non Z series motherboards (for example, my 4790K can do 4.8GHz@1.35V on my Asus H87M Pro as well as it doe on the Z97 Sabertooth MKII that replaced it).