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Europe's a big place. Considering it's not down in every part of the EU it's best to just list the countries it is down in. Europe is bigger then the US. You wouldn't say Google is down in the US would you just the states it's down in. We also have double the population. 

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9 minutes ago, kuddlesworth9419 said:

Europe's a big place. Considering it's not down in every part of the EU it's best to just list the countries it is down in. Europe is bigger then the US. You wouldn't say Google is down in the US would you just the states it's down in. We also have double the population. 

Not that the point doesn't remain... But the US is almost 3x the size of the old EU-15, and almost exactly the same size as Europe "the continent". But yea the population (and population density) difference is gigantic.

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Seems to be up and running, at least for the time being. 

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11 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

exactly the same size as Europe "the continent"

Well if we include Russia then ermmm...no

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5 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Well if we include Russia then ermmm...no

"the continent".

 

You don't get to double count Russia as both Asia and Europe.

 

I would personally be more in favor of completely counting Russia as part of Asia, but world wide convention (for 200 years or more) clearly splits the country in a consistent manner.

 

Anyways, @kuddlesworth9419's point still stands. Talking about individual country/locals is more relevant than just saying "europe"

 

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Google has problems from time to time, but (to my knowledge) they have never been hacked.

 

In Europe our ISPs favour peering, elsewhere (like the US) their ISPs favour transit.

 

In all likelihood, there is/was either an issue with routing somewhere, or a problem at an IX. If it is localised to a specific ISP, it might even be an issue with the ISP's network if Google have put servers there.

 

In the UK (presumably Google use geodns so it might differ worldwide) the TTL for the A/AAAA records is 5 minutes, so in the highly unlikely scenario someone messed up at Google (or an intermediate caching resolving DNS server had a bad lookup) it shouldn't hang around that long.

 

Google have a lot of IP addresses. So many in fact that any outage can potentially be mitigated by just changing your DNS settings (unless the problem is with IX peering).

 

If you're using ISP DNS, try Google's 8.8.8.8 DNS resolver.

If you're using Google's DNS, try Hurricane Electric's 74.82.42.42 resolver.

Flush your OS and browser DNS cache (because negative caching is a thing), and see if that resolves (pun) things.

 

10 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Well if we include Russia then ermmm...no

Depends on the definition of a continent, and there are several. One of those includes Eurafrasia as a continent.

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15 minutes ago, WatfordJC said:

Google has problems from time to time, but (to my knowledge) they have never been hacked.

 

In Europe our ISPs favour peering, elsewhere (like the US) their ISPs favour transit.

 

In all likelihood, there is/was either an issue with routing somewhere, or a problem at an IX. If it is localised to a specific ISP, it might even be an issue with the ISP's network if Google have put servers there.

 

In the UK (presumably Google use geodns so it might differ worldwide) the TTL for the A/AAAA records is 5 minutes, so in the highly unlikely scenario someone messed up at Google (or an intermediate caching resolving DNS server had a bad lookup) it shouldn't hang around that long.

 

Google have a lot of IP addresses. So many in fact that any outage can potentially be mitigated by just changing your DNS settings (unless the problem is with IX peering).

 

If you're using ISP DNS, try Google's 8.8.8.8 DNS resolver.

If you're using Google's DNS, try Hurricane Electric's 74.82.42.42 resolver.

Flush your OS and browser DNS cache (because negative caching is a thing), and see if that resolves (pun) things.

 

Depends on the definition of a continent, and there are several. One of those includes Eurafrasia as a continent.

I was using 8.8.8.8 as my DNS, which is what caused me problems initially.  i changed it so that my router would suck down what ever DNS it had, which helped a bit.  Flushing local cache didn't help - but agree negative caching can happen.  

 

If the TTL for the A records is 5 mins than that clearly points to the problem being somewhere between Google and some ISPs.  

 

Interesting nonetheless. 

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