Will my 6600K bottleneck the 1070 8GB AMP! edition?

[just tilt]

My aim is to play 1080p maxed out for the next 3-4 years, and maybe even 1440p. Will the CPU bottleneck the GPU? If it is, am i better of buying a 1060 6GB, or maybe something else?
Thanks in advance
Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MmcMwV
 

[Floris_Heinen]

No it won't

[Morgan MLGman]

1 minute ago, Floris_Heinen said:

No it won't

Oh yes it will. Just not in every game.

 

At 1080p, it would bottleneck the 1070 in some games like The Witcher 3, Battlefield 1 and ROTTR. I'd recommend OP goes for the 1060 cause a 1070 is an "overkill" at 1080p anyway. Unless you plan on moving to 1440p, I'd suggest a 1060.

[EPPHO]

On 1440p it won't

[just tilt]

Just now, frozeNNN said:

On 1440p it won't

oke bate

[Aytex]

1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Oh yes it will. Just not in every game.

 

At 1080p, it would bottleneck the 1070 in some games like The Witcher 3, Battlefield 1 and ROTTR. I'd recommend OP goes for the 1060 cause a 1070 is an "overkill" at 1080p anyway. Unless you plan on moving to 1440p, I'd suggest a 1060.

OCing it will relieve some of the bottleneck, so invest in a beefy air cooler or a nice AiO  

 

Or instead of spending $100 on a cpu cooler might as well get a 6700, or a 4790k

[just tilt]

Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

Oh yes it will. Just not in every game.

 

At 1080p, it would bottleneck the 1070 in some games like The Witcher 3, Battlefield 1 and ROTTR. I'd recommend OP goes for the 1060 cause a 1070 is an "overkill" at 1080p anyway. Unless you plan on moving to 1440p, I'd suggest a 1060.

but will the bottlenecked 1070 perform better than the 1060 at 1080p?

[Matias_Chambers]

At 1080p, yes it will. At 1440p it will be fine even in CPU intensive games for the most part. 

[Floris_Heinen]

1 minute ago, just tilt said:

but will the bottlenecked 1070 perform better than the 1060 at 1080p?

Of course it will. EVERY CPU will bottleneck, it's just that a 6600K does not bottleneck a 1070 using current monitor refresh rates. BF1 does not get bottlenecked by a 6600K even at 200fps. Unless you want to play Rocket League at more than 400fps, a 6600K will NOT bottleneck.

 

In a sense Morgan is right, but you can go on with this forever...

 

 

[Yahtadi]

6600k and 1070 would be perfect match for gaming. Sweet spot for 1440p

[Matias_Chambers]

I would personally go for a 6700 with a cheaper H170 mobo. It will be about the same as a 6600K + Z170 mobo + aftermarket cooler. 

[just tilt]

Just now, Matias_Chambers said:

I would personally go for a 6700 with a cheaper H170 mobo. It will be about the same as a 6600K + Z170 mobo + aftermarket cooler. 

could you give me a link of a good cheaper mobo from pcpartpicker?

[Morgan MLGman]

10 minutes ago, Floris_Heinen said:

Of course it will. EVERY CPU will bottleneck, it's just that a 6600K does not bottleneck a 1070 using current monitor refresh rates. BF1 does not get bottlenecked by a 6600K even at 200fps. Unless you want to play Rocket League at more than 400fps, a 6600K will NOT bottleneck.

 

In a sense Morgan is right, but you can go on with this forever...

 

 

Sadly, you're wrong here too. BF1 is EXTREMELY CPU heavy, it might be the most CPU intensive AAA title out there atm. You get around 10% better performance in terms of FPS in BF1 when you have a 6700K with HT on over an 6600K. But as we all know, FPS is not everything. There are also frametimes, 6600K stutters more frequently than a 6700K due to the i5 not having HyperThreading and having less L3 Cache, this makes the gaming experience worse. If you want smooth gameplay with as little CPU bottleneck as possible, 6700K is the way to go.

 

The point where "an i5 is the best for gaming" is over, sadly. As GPUs have improved and games have gotten more demanding, CPU requirements have increased.

 

 

Full link to the CPU review of BF1: http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2673-battlefield-1-cpu-benchmark-dx11-vs-dx12-i5-i7-fx

[Yahtadi]

2 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

I would personally go for a 6700 with a cheaper H170 mobo. It will be about the same as a 6600K + Z170 mobo + aftermarket cooler. 

 

Just now, just tilt said:

could you give me a link of a good cheaper mobo from pcpartpicker?

For gaming 6600k and 6700k wouldnt make much different at all
But this is definately Z170 > H170

6600k + Z170 much better than 6700k + H170

[Matias_Chambers]

2 minutes ago, just tilt said:

could you give me a link of a good cheaper mobo from pcpartpicker?

Sure, but pcpartpicker isn't responding right now. I don't know if it's just me. 

[Morgan MLGman]

Just now, Yahtadi said:

 

For gaming 6600k and 6700k wouldnt make much different at all
But this is definately Z170 > H170

6600k + Z170 much better than 6700k + H170

That's just not true.

[just tilt]

14 minutes ago, Aytex said:

Or instead of spending $100 on a cpu cooler might as well get a 6700, or a 4790k

Uhh, my CPU cooler costs like 25$?

[Matias_Chambers]

Just now, Yahtadi said:

 

For gaming 6600k and 6700k wouldnt make much different at all
But this is definately Z170 > H170

6600k + Z170 much better than 6700k + H170

No. A 6700 with an H170 mobo will be better. i5's get maxed out in many games and do bottleneck high end GPU's at 1080p. He will have less stuttering and fps drops with an i7 and the CPU wont be nearly as stressed out due to hyper-threading. 

[Floris_Heinen]

1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Sadly, you're wrong here too. BF1 is EXTREMELY CPU heavy, it might be the most CPU intensive AAA title out there atm. You get around 10% better performance in terms of FPS in BF1 when you have a 6700K with HT on over an 6600K. But as we all know, FPS is not everything. There are also frametimes, 6600K stutters more frequently than a 6700K due to the i5 not having HyperThreading and having less L3 Cache, this makes the gaming experience worse. If you want smooth gameplay with as little CPU bottleneck as possible, 6700K is the way to go.

 

The point where "an i5 is the best for gaming" is over, sadly. As GPUs have improved and games have gotten more demanding, CPU requirements have increased.

 

If you want as little of a bottleneck you should obviously go with a 6950X.... see where I'm getting at? You can go on with this forever. At what point does it become too much of a price premium for the amount of frames gained? the 6600K still hits that sweetspot for the current games.

[SeanAngelo]

21 minutes ago, just tilt said:

My aim is to play 1080p maxed out for the next 3-4 years, and maybe even 1440p. Will the CPU bottleneck the GPU? If it is, am i better of buying a 1060 6GB, or maybe something else?
Thanks in advance
Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MmcMwV
 

why not just get a 1440p monitor so you don't have to go down to the 1060 for 1080p gaming?

 

[Yahtadi]

Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

That's just not true.

Uuh which one?
This  "For gaming 6600k and 6700k wouldnt make much different at all" ? Or this  "Z170 > H170" ?

Save you some time. All of them were true by the way

[just tilt]

Okay, now do i go for H170 and 6700k or Z170 and 6600k?

[Matias_Chambers]

Just now, Floris_Heinen said:

If you want as little of a bottleneck you should obviously go with a 6950X.... see where I'm getting at? You can go on with this forever. At what point does it become too much of a price premium for the amount of frames gained? the 6600K still hits that sweetspot for the current games.

Getting a 6700 with an H170 mobo is a better option for about the same price, than getting a 6600K with a Z170 mobo + aftermarket cooler. 

[Matias_Chambers]

6 minutes ago, just tilt said:

could you give me a link of a good cheaper mobo from pcpartpicker?

I will when pcpartpicker works again. 

[Floris_Heinen]

Just now, Matias_Chambers said:

Getting a 6700 with an H170 mobo is a better option for about the same price, than getting a 6600K with a Z170 mobo + aftermarket cooler. 

Oh yeah I definitely agree.

 

I'm just talking about the CPU's alone here.