Help for graphic card update

[GuillainBarreMD]

Hello,

I'm quite new to this forum so feel free to relocate my post to another sub-folder onthe forum if it is necessary. I would like to know the community's opinion about my situation. I want to upgrade my PC to be able to play Battlefield 1 decently. I'm not a hardcore gamer but I'm an old fan of the series (I've been playing since BF2).

 

My actual config is (From 2011):

ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Socket 1155 LGA)

i5 2500K 3.30GHz

ASUS GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB

Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB DD31600 PC3 12800

1 TB Seagate 7200 rpm

Windows 10

 

I've played BF1 a little so far but had to downscale the game to 900p (from 1080p) only to get about 45 to 60 fps.

I consider making these changes:

Keeping the motherboard

(possibly upgrading to a i7 3770K used)

MSI (or Gigabyte) GTX 1060 3GB (or 6 GB)

Doubling my RAM (with the 2 other sticks of the same model, making it 4x4 GB)

Adding a SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB

 

Here are my questions:

1. Is it a good idea to keep my motherboard? Considering I use it since 2011 (not my main computer though). Does this kind of things wear out significantly over time? I'ts an old architecture, is it resonable to keep it to save some money?
2. Do you trust second hand CPUs? Again, do these thing wear out significantly over time? I feel it's still not that bad, at least for gaming.. But I've seen on task manage that while playing BF1, it spikes to 90% of use.. Do you think I can keep it?
3. Would it be a better idea to change everything (MB, CPU) and to go with the new socket type (LGA 1151 if I'm right)?
4. For the new graphic card. Is 3GB enough for 1080p gaming on BF1 with the 1060 GTX? Is there a performance drop between PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 (My MB is only PCIe 2.0) for a graphic card?
5. Doubling RAM with 2 new sticks of the same model (4x4) vs 2 new sticks (2x8)?

 

Thanks a lot and I look forward to reading your answers!

 

[Guest]

CPU's: I would buy them used, if not to old. Those things should last at least 7+ years, and my current CPU is +/- 9 yo and has been running 24/7 all those 9 years.

 

Not sure if the i73770K uses pins, or those other modern things to connect to the socket. If there are pins, I would worry a bit about shipping... You don't want them pins bent.

 

Not sure, but 8 gb of ram is rather mainstream atm, and BF1 must be for mainstream users, otherwise they are loosing alot of potential customers. So if I am correct on this, 8 gb of ram "should be enough".

 

Try to find out if BF1 is CPU or GPU intensive. If BF1 is GPU intensive, only replace GPU. If it also likes to eat them CPU ghz, replace CPU to. (considering BF1 is the only reason you want to upgrade, and you're happy with the system till this point)

 

Depending on mobo channels, 4x4 can be better. They "only have to be of the same type and speed". As far as I know, there is no disadvantage to mixing brands. If mixing speeds, lowest speed will be used. (someone correct me if I am wrong here)

[elbarto.2]

1.  Motherboards do not wear out over time unless they are in use constantly and put under significant load.  You could keep it if you want, it won't really change anything.

2.  Second hand CPUs are usually fine.  CPUs do not wear out over time, unless (obviously) used.  You might be able to keep it.

3.  If you were planning to buy a 6700K if you upgraded to Skylake, then go for it.  If you choose to go the i5 route, stick with the 2600K or a 3770K.

4.  Go for the 6GB just to be on the safe side.  I don't really know anything about PCIe 3 vs 2.

5.  2x8.  With this, you could upgrade to 32 GB if you needed to.

[bgibbz]

What is your budget? You won't notice any performance drop in using a pcie 3.0 device on a 2.0 slot. 

 

Battlefeild 1 is very CPU intensive so you may benefit from the 3700k.

 

The ram upgrade probably won't be noticeable, it's certainly is a good thing to have. Adding 2 more sticks is fine. 

 

The 1060 is a great card, although if you can, I recommend saving up for the 6gb version. While the 3gb and 6gb version are both named the same thing (1060), they are very different cards and the 3gb version is not a great value. 

 

I wouldn't do a full overhaul of the motherboar me and CPU until zen/kaby is released. 

 

Do do not worry about using an old motherboard, performance degradation over time is a myth. 

 

Sorry that i kind of hop around from idea to idea here, I was kind of just typing things as I thought it so hopefully it makes sense . Welcome to the forums!

[Brooksie359]

2 minutes ago, GuillainBarreMD said:

Hello,

I'm quite new to this forum so feel free to relocate my post to another sub-folder onthe forum if it is necessary. I would like to know the community's opinion about my situation. I want to upgrade my PC to be able to play Battlefield 1 decently. I'm not a hardcore gamer but I'm an old fan of the series (I've been playing since BF2).

 

My actual config is (From 2011):

ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Socket 1155 LGA)

i5 2500K 3.30GHz

ASUS GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB

Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB DD31600 PC3 12800

1 TB Seagate 7200 rpm

Windows 10

 

I've played BF1 a little so far but had to downscale the game to 900p (from 1080p) only to get about 45 to 60 fps.

I consider making these changes:

Keeping the motherboard

(possibly upgrading to a i7 3770K used)

MSI (or Gigabyte) GTX 1060 3GB (or 6 GB)

Doubling my RAM (with the 2 other sticks of the same model, making it 4x4 GB)

Adding a SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB

 

Here are my questions:

1. Is it a good idea to keep my motherboard? Considering I use it since 2011 (not my main computer though). Does this kind of things wear out significantly over time? I'ts an old architecture, is it resonable to keep it to save some money?
2. Do you trust second hand CPUs? Again, do these thing wear out significantly over time? I feel it's still not that bad, at least for gaming.. But I've seen on task manage that while playing BF1, it spikes to 90% of use.. Do you think I can keep it?
3. Would it be a better idea to change everything (MB, CPU) and to go with the new socket type (LGA 1151 if I'm right)?
4. For the new graphic card. Is 3GB enough for 1080p gaming on BF1 with the 1060 GTX? Is there a performance drop between PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 (My MB is only PCIe 2.0) for a graphic card?
5. Doubling RAM with 2 new sticks of the same model (4x4) vs 2 new sticks (2x8)?

 

Thanks a lot and I look forward to reading your answers!

 

there will be no difference between pcie 3.0 and 2.0 as long as you are using 16x. i'm pretty sure only 8x 2.0 is needed to run even the high end gpus like the titan XP. wear and tear on electronics depends on the stresses that are put on the components so if a computer component is put under large thermal loads over long periods of time it could effect the life of the component. 

[Guest]

Oh, aside from some broken USB ports (dust/crap in them ports), and a burned audio chip on my motherboard (dropped a screw when the mobo was only 6 months old), my motherboard is still working fine @ 9 years old, running 24/7. But my board was popular amongst overclockers, so it seems I bought quality. Not sure about your mobo.

[GuillainBarreMD]

Wow thanks for the replies! It's really appreciated! If anyone else has some other opinions, I'd be glad to hear it! I'll stick to my mobo for now and will upgrade the GPU and CPU. Does anyone has some place/website the could recommend for used CPU in (or ships to) Canada? There are some on eBay but I'm quite hesitant.. I feel like eBay could be a lot of trouble with that sort of things..

 

thanks again everyone!

[scottyseng]

4 minutes ago, GuillainBarreMD said:

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As long as you don't get ES (engineering sample chips) you should be fine with ebay. My 2500K was used from ebay. I kind of went crazy with a GPU and got a 980 Ti...and yeah, it's bottlenecking.

[RadiatingLight]

1 hour ago, GuillainBarreMD said:

• Is it a good idea to keep my motherboard? Considering I use it since 2011 (not my main computer though). Does this kind of things wear out significantly over time? I'ts an old architecture, is it resonable to keep it to save some money?
• Do you trust second hand CPUs? Again, do these thing wear out significantly over time? I feel it's still not that bad, at least for gaming.. But I've seen on task manage that while playing BF1, it spikes to 90% of use.. Do you think I can keep it?
• Would it be a better idea to change everything (MB, CPU) and to go with the new socket type (LGA 1151 if I'm right)?
• For the new graphic card. Is 3GB enough for 1080p gaming on BF1 with the 1060 GTX? Is there a performance drop between PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 (My MB is only PCIe 2.0) for a graphic card?
• Doubling RAM with 2 new sticks of the same model (4x4) vs 2 new sticks (2x8)?

I would recommend the RX 480 over the 1060 3GB

 

PCIE 2.0 is fine. no performance hit unless you are using a 2.0 X8 slot

 

secondhand CPUs are fine

 

doubling RAM is good

 

SSD is good

 

Old motherboard is totally fine no worries