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1 minute ago, Flowey said:

Not familiar at all with AMD's whole CPU branch, but have they moved away from god damn pins yet? Like, AM3+ socket is pinless,hopefully?...

Nope, still got the "you will fuck yourself over if you drop your cpu from an inch"

 

I don't see why they don't move to balls or something. It would easily shorten the manufacturing process and be very hard to damage the cpu/socket.

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3 minutes ago, Flowey said:

Not familiar at all with AMD's whole CPU branch, but have they moved away from god damn pins yet? Like, AM3+ socket is pinless,hopefully?...

Currently, AMD uses pins. And it's likely that Zen will use them too, unless I've missed something...

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AMD isn't going to switch from PGA

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1 minute ago, Imakuni said:

Currently, AMD uses pins. And it's likely that Zen will use them too, unless I've missed something...

WTF and they want to get back into the market. Their GPU branch is top notch IMO, Just a tad bit more of marketing budget and we might actually see AMD coming back into the game. But the CPU branch, OH GOD, fuking retards running around  without heads and shit. FKING PINS! SKULLFUCK YOU SIDEWAYS!

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they are still using them. 

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2 minutes ago, dexxterlab97 said:

PIN? Like Personal Identification Number? No. They don't use that. At least as far as my knowledge goes. I don't think I have to enter a PIN to use an AMD cpu

Metal pins dude, contact with the socket for current to flow right? Why ain't flat contact point a thing for AMD yet, ain't that hard to implement.

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3 minutes ago, Flowey said:

WTF and they want to get back into the market. Their GPU branch is top notch IMO, Just a tad bit more of marketing budget and we might actually see AMD coming back into the game. But the CPU branch, OH GOD, fuking retards running around  without heads and shit. FKING PINS! SKULLFUCK YOU SIDEWAYS!

intel still has pins just on the mobo. it is fine it is the same as intel you crazy kid 

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1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

intel still has pins just on the mobo. it is fine it is the same as intel you crazy kid 

Actually, it's not. There quite a few advantages to having pins on the mobo VS the CPU.

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3 minutes ago, Flowey said:

Pretty sure my CPU doesn't have any pins, just flat contact points or wth they call them. That might be a skylake thing though

it has pins on the mobo, look.  Image result for intel mobo socket

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Just now, GDRRiley said:

it has bins on the mobo, look.  Image result for intel mobo socket

Ok, my definition of pins was missing, basically I mean those fking huge ass metal pointy thingy that AMD CPU seems to be so fond of. The things that break so easily. Those are clearly not 1/8 of an inch gold pins for sure m8.

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1 minute ago, dexxterlab97 said:

you mean pins? because this is bins

 

typo when you are not paying attention 

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2 minutes ago, ONOTech said:

I'd much rather replace a CPU than an entire motherboard, and the rate of a defective CPU due to bent pins is very low. Also, if you do bend pins, it's easier to fix on the CPU than the motherboard. It's just preference honestly.

Errrr, PGA vs LGA has nothing to do with market performance.

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1 minute ago, Flowey said:

Ok, my definition of pins was missing, basically I mean those fking huge ass metal pointy thingy that AMD CPU seems to be so fond of. The things that break so easily. Those are clearly not 1/8 of an inch gold pins for sure m8.

they are a little smaller and inlet also has the issue except that they break off of the mobo. 

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I still don't quite understand how PGA vs LGA is such a polarizing topic. Really couldn't care less since both work. Price to performance and reliability once installed seem way more important since you generally want to be very and equally as careful with installs on CPU's. I mean, unless you're also drunk while installing CPU's, then you'd probably need a very robust solution

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22 minutes ago, meenmeen1103 said:

I still don't quite understand how PGA vs LGA is such a polarizing topic. Really couldn't care less since both work. Price to performance and reliability once installed seem way more important since you generally want to be very and equally as careful with installs on CPU's. I mean, unless you're also drunk while installing CPU's, then you'd probably need a very robust solution

Maybe I'm drunk... But then again I'm at work so that's fucked up. However I'd like to mention that my issues with pins is that clumsy people like me, which aren't necessarly drunk, might drop that CPU up major heights of like, and inch or 2, and see their dreams shatters as pins bents and breaks. That's not a problem with flat contact point, since the actual "angled pins" areon the motherboard, which as a matter of fact is much harder to drop,and even then you've got to be Bad Luck Brian to have the mobo land on the CPU socket. So, my whole rent was really more about the practicality of siad pins vs flat contact point, not about performance and shit, couldn't care less to be honest. If it performs aswell why should we bother?

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3 minutes ago, Flowey said:

Maybe I'm drunk... But then again I'm at work so that's fucked up. However I'd like to mention that my issues with pins is that clumsy people like me, which aren't necessarly drunk, might drop that CPU up major heights of like, and inch or 2, and see their dreams shatters as pins bents and breaks. That's not a problem with flat contact point, since the actual "angled pins" areon the motherboard, which as a matter of fact is much harder to drop,and even then you've got to be Bad Luck Brian to have the mobo land on the CPU socket. So, my whole rent was really more about the practicality of siad pins vs flat contact point, not about performance and shit, couldn't care less to be honest.If it performs aswell why should we bother?

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I understand your point, but I think if you manage to bend CPU pins from a 1-2 inch drop, you're already bad luck brian. This is all assuming the CPU and mobo price are around the same. If one of them costs twice as much as the other, then you'd rightfully want the more expensive one to be less likely to get damaged. AMD's AM4 CPU's having pins makes sense when paired with a board of around the same or slightly lower price. Definitely wouldn't prefer to have a more fragile $300 CPU on a $150 board, but all that is needed is to not drop it to completely avoid physical damage.

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