My First Build Ever (Help on parts list)

[DANtheMAN94]

i am 22 years old and currently work electrical, in Toronto Canada. I have always been handy and into construction and recently  started to get into electronic as a hobby. i currently use a couple year old mac book pro and figured it would be wicked to build my own water cooled desktop....im pretty good with my hands and putting things together i figure this shouldn't be to hard. the necessities for my computer would be that i want it to be able to display true 4k, be able to do 3d rendering, video editing (youtube videos), be ridiculously fast, and be able to run both windows & IOS. I've done some research on my own but am no expert in IT and was kind of able to put together a list of parts that i think will work. Im looking for advice for 1) if all these parts will work together 2) if all these parts will be able to achieve my goals/expectations for what i want, and 3) if there is a cheaper option for parts (of better or equal quality) that will still achieve my goal.

      Parts List (prices are in canadian dollars)

• Thermaltake care p5 atx case (pretty firm on the case as i like the open concept and think it would make a cool, water cooled desktop) - $184.99 
• Inter i7-6800k broadwell-e six core processor, lga2011-v3, 3.4ghz, 15mb l3 cash, 14nm - $599.00
• Asus x99-a ii 2011-v3, intel x99, ddr4 3333mhz, pci-e 3.0 x16, glan, 8x sata 6gb/s, m.2, u.2, usb 3.1/3.0 atx - $310.00
• asus turbo geforce gtx 1070 8gb (turbo-gtx1070-8g), 1506 mhz base/ 1683 mhz boost, 8008 mhz memory clock, pci-e 3.0, 1x dvi-d, 2x hdmi 2.0, 2x dp - $599
• g.skill ripjaw v series 32gb (2x16gb) ddr4 dram 3200mhz c14 memory dual channel kit (f4-3200c14d-32gvr) - $256.00
• wd blue 1tb desktop hard disk drive - 7200rpm sata 6 gb/s 64mb cashe 3.5 inch - wd10ezex - $127.98 (2@63.99)
• mushkin triactor 240gb 2.5" sata iii internal solid state drive, read:560 mb/s write:515 mb/s (mknssdtr240gb) - $149.76 (2@74.88)

not sure about a power unit i was thinking 1200w but not sure, and not sure about any water cooling parts at the moment i was thinking about assembling everything and then figuring out what part would fit to create my custom loop water cooling system. i hope I'm not way off here, and i hope this makes things easy for your guys. let me know what you think

[rn8686]

All should work fine, no issues. As for the PSU, 1200W is way, way overkill. Only 500W is needed for a 1070, 750w if buying two to SLI. 

[HKZeroFive]

I have two gripes.

 

The first being that a 1200W power supply is excessive. This rig would run fine on a decent 550W unit without any problems.

 

The second is the two SSDs, which I assume you're going to put in a RAID 0 configuration. Don't, you're simply asking for a higher chance of data failure at no real performance improvement. Get a single SSD instead. The Crucial MX300 525GB is a decent choice.

[NoRomanBatmansAllowed]

1 hour ago, DANtheMAN94 said:

i am 22 years old and currently work electrical, in Toronto Canada. I have always been handy and into construction and recently  started to get into electronic as a hobby. i currently use a couple year old mac book pro and figured it would be wicked to build my own water cooled desktop....im pretty good with my hands and putting things together i figure this shouldn't be to hard. the necessities for my computer would be that i want it to be able to display true 4k, be able to do 3d rendering, video editing (youtube videos), be ridiculously fast, and be able to run both windows & IOS. I've done some research on my own but am no expert in IT and was kind of able to put together a list of parts that i think will work. Im looking for advice for 1) if all these parts will work together 2) if all these parts will be able to achieve my goals/expectations for what i want, and 3) if there is a cheaper option for parts (of better or equal quality) that will still achieve my goal.

      Parts List (prices are in canadian dollars)

• Thermaltake care p5 atx case (pretty firm on the case as i like the open concept and think it would make a cool, water cooled desktop) - $184.99 
• Inter i7-6800k broadwell-e six core processor, lga2011-v3, 3.4ghz, 15mb l3 cash, 14nm - $599.00
• Asus x99-a ii 2011-v3, intel x99, ddr4 3333mhz, pci-e 3.0 x16, glan, 8x sata 6gb/s, m.2, u.2, usb 3.1/3.0 atx - $310.00
• asus turbo geforce gtx 1070 8gb (turbo-gtx1070-8g), 1506 mhz base/ 1683 mhz boost, 8008 mhz memory clock, pci-e 3.0, 1x dvi-d, 2x hdmi 2.0, 2x dp - $599
• g.skill ripjaw v series 32gb (2x16gb) ddr4 dram 3200mhz c14 memory dual channel kit (f4-3200c14d-32gvr) - $256.00
• wd blue 1tb desktop hard disk drive - 7200rpm sata 6 gb/s 64mb cashe 3.5 inch - wd10ezex - $127.98 (2@63.99)
• mushkin triactor 240gb 2.5" sata iii internal solid state drive, read:560 mb/s write:515 mb/s (mknssdtr240gb) - $149.76 (2@74.88)

not sure about a power unit i was thinking 1200w but not sure, and not sure about any water cooling parts at the moment i was thinking about assembling everything and then figuring out what part would fit to create my custom loop water cooling system. i hope I'm not way off here, and i hope this makes things easy for your guys. let me know what you think

1200W is way overkill. I think that's what linus used to run 7Gamers 1 CPU or something, so a build like yours wouldn't need nearly as much power. 

You want macOS support, but I'm not sure if they've implemented GTX 10xx support yet (not really sure; if you have sources trust them about this instead of me)

 

I don't see why you would want 2 musking SSDs; it would be better if you just got one higher capacity one. 

 

Also, at this pricepoint, may I recommend a WD black drive instead of blue? Not that anything is wrong with blue whatsoever (still miles ahead of some seagate drives), it's just that black Drives are engineered for performance & content creation, which you intend on doing. 

 

Honestly, at this price point are a bit harder to critque because so many parts can be put in there "just because" and it won't really matter because it'll fit in the budget. (tl;dr higher budget = more opinionated)

 

Anyways, hope you have a good build! Godspeed!

[Cereal5]

you can probably find a 1070 with an aftermarket cooler/PCB which will have a higher clock speed and boost higher. maybe $20 CAD more at the most

[Moress]

If you want to play games in 4k a Gtx 1070 is not enough, a 1080 is close to a single card solution but even that will require you to turn some settings down. Personally if you really want a 4k machine I would reduce the CPU to a 6700k with a Z170 motherboard and put that towards a Gtx 1080 at least.

[Moress]

This would be something that would handle 4k gaming better than your x99 system, although the extra cores (especially if OCed) would help with video rendering. I gave you the hyper212 evo since you mentioned wanting to do a custom loop, although I would vote against those unless you're an enthusiast. A custom loop won't really increase performance since most CPU's will hit their stability limits before their thermal limits even on a 240mm AIO. Although it can really help with thermal issues when you SLI graphic's cards since you start having airflow issues.

 

Gaming

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mzrqd6

 

Rendering PC

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/MQQK7h

[DANtheMAN94]

11 hours ago, bob51zhang said:

1200W is way overkill. I think that's what linus used to run 7Gamers 1 CPU or something, so a build like yours wouldn't need nearly as much power. 

You want macOS support, but I'm not sure if they've implemented GTX 10xx support yet (not really sure; if you have sources trust them about this instead of me)

 

I don't see why you would want 2 musking SSDs; it would be better if you just got one higher capacity one. 

 

Also, at this pricepoint, may I recommend a WD black drive instead of blue? Not that anything is wrong with blue whatsoever (still miles ahead of some seagate drives), it's just that black Drives are engineered for performance & content creation, which you intend on doing. 

 

Honestly, at this price point are a bit harder to critque because so many parts can be put in there "just because" and it won't really matter because it'll fit in the budget. (tl;dr higher budget = more opinionated)

 

Anyways, hope you have a good build! Godspeed!

ok i guess i could go with a 750w instead of the 1200w 
and the 2 ssds would be so i can have 1 as a boot ssd for windows and 1 as a boot ssd for ios not sure how it would really work as i havent done much research on how to get both ios and windows runing on 1 system but i know it is possible i know you need to have seperate hdds or you can split one but the case has room for 4 so i figure i might as well get one each for both windows and ios. 
i also dont know much about hdds in regards to blue or black that just seemed to have the fasts read and write speeds available near the price range 

[DANtheMAN94]

11 hours ago, Moress said:

This would be something that would handle 4k gaming better than your x99 system, although the extra cores (especially if OCed) would help with video rendering. I gave you the hyper212 evo since you mentioned wanting to do a custom loop, although I would vote against those unless you're an enthusiast. A custom loop won't really increase performance since most CPU's will hit their stability limits before their thermal limits even on a 240mm AIO. Although it can really help with thermal issues when you SLI graphic's cards since you start having airflow issues.

 

Gaming

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mzrqd6

 

Rendering PC

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/MQQK7h

honestly not big on gaming but id like to display 4k when i do game from time to time or watch a movie or do parts rendering in 3d. im more or a construction guy then a techy, so im not really sure as to what i need to achive my goal thats why i put up this thread. the custom water loop is not for performance just because it would look cool especial in the core p5 case

[DANtheMAN94]

12 hours ago, HKZeroFive said:

I have two gripes.

 

The first being that a 1200W power supply is excessive. This rig would run fine on a decent 550W unit without any problems.

 

The second is the two SSDs, which I assume you're going to put in a RAID 0 configuration. Don't, you're simply asking for a higher chance of data failure at no real performance improvement. Get a single SSD instead. The Crucial MX300 525GB is a decent choice.

honestly i know nothing about raid configurations or not or  sli for graphicas cards 
my intentions for the 2 sdds was to use 1 as a boot ssd for windows and 1 as a boot ssd for ios if this is not required and windows and ios would work fine on 1 boot ssd with i wont need to purchase a 2nd ssd card

[Jovidah]

Don't take this the wrong way, but when you keep saying you're 'not a techy' and don't seem to be all that much into computers, why fork out the 2000 bucks for a high-end computer that seems to be seeing only occasional use? For the same reason I'm questioning the wisdom of trying to go with a full custom waterloop setting, or going with an open-case design (which'll just attract a load of dust and require more maintenance).

 

Right now you're pretty much putting together a Ferrari that you say you'll only use to go for groceries on sunday.

If you just want something pretty you can just get a mid-end PC, save yourself a 1000 bucks and spend it all on... art...or iduno...furnitore... you can pretty much furnish a whole house at Ikea for what you'd save...

[Quaker]

- if you want do any 4K gaming you should get a GTX-1080 instead of the 1070.

 

- 550watts is all you need, so a good quality 750 watt power supply is more than enough (even for 2 1080s)

 

- you could save some money by just getting DDR4-2400 RAM. RAM speed doesn't make much difference.

 

- since the motherboard supports it, and you want speed, I'd suggest you get a 500Gig  M.2 SSD. You can partition the SSD to make separate Windows and iOS  (and/or programs) sections.

 

- building a "Hackintosh" (iOS) system can place a lot of restrictions on what hardware is compatible (Apple only needs to support the hardware they use), so you should look into that a bit more. (Or, even better, not at all.)

 

 

[NoRomanBatmansAllowed]

4 hours ago, DANtheMAN94 said:

it is possible i know you need to have seperate hdds or you can split one but the case has room for 4 so i figure i might as well get one each for both windows and ios.

Just get a single, nicer SSD and partition it. (Honestly, it took a few tries, but it's really user-friendly some of those partition utilities.)

[NoRomanBatmansAllowed]

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Edited October 12, 2016 by bob51zhang
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