[theoretical build] Silent build around 1500€

[Gnomo]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€334.85 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (€64.84 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: EVGA Z170 FTW ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€284.85 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€179.92 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 750 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€124.00 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 8GB GTR Video Card  (€277.35 @ Mindfactory)
Case: be quiet! SILENT BASE 600 w/Window (Silver) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€104.90 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: be quiet! STRAIGHT POWER 10 CM 600W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€92.83)
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (€25.64 @ Mindfactory)
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (€25.64 @ Mindfactory)
Other:  16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX schwarz DDR4-2133 DIMM CL13 Dual Kit (€75.86)
Total: €1590.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-11 05:08 CEST+0200

I am thinking about a build, it has to be as silent and cool as possible. the 6700k is for 8 threads and undervolting. Not sure if the build will be actually build, at the moment it is pure theory crafting.

where would you improve?

[Angy]

any reason why you wouldn't go on CPU liquid cooling?

[Shahnewaz]

8 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

8 threads and undervolting.

8 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

Other:  16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX schwarz DDR4-2133 DIMM CL13 Dual Kit (€75.86)

For video editing?

8 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

where would you improve?

9 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€179.92 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 750 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€124.00 @ Mindfactory)

Those. Don't know what you're doing there.

I'd double check the PSU quality as well.

[rphawks]

9 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€334.85 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (€64.84 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: EVGA Z170 FTW ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€284.85 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€179.92 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 750 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€124.00 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 8GB GTR Video Card  (€277.35 @ Mindfactory)
Case: be quiet! SILENT BASE 600 w/Window (Silver) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€104.90 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: be quiet! STRAIGHT POWER 10 CM 600W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€92.83)
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (€25.64 @ Mindfactory)
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (€25.64 @ Mindfactory)
Other:  16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX schwarz DDR4-2133 DIMM CL13 Dual Kit (€75.86)
Total: €1590.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-11 05:08 CEST+0200

I am thinking about a build, it has to be as silent and cool as possible. the 6700k is for 8 threads and undervolting. Not sure if the build will be actually build, at the moment it is pure theory crafting.

where would you improve?

6700K is overkill for an RX 480. I would get a better graphics card.

 

Drop the 950 Pro and 750 EVO for a 850 EVO drive. 950 Pro's are still not worth the price, and 750 EVO's don't really fit at this price range. 

 

Get a modular power supply. At this price range, it's what I would go for. Also, check the quality of that PSU. You can never go wrong with a Corsair RMx or EVGA G2 PSU.

 

 

 

 

[rphawks]

5 minutes ago, Angy said:

any reason why you wouldn't go on CPU liquid cooling?

Why would he need to?

[Angy]

would it not be quieter?

[rphawks]

1 minute ago, Angy said:

would it not be quieter?

Liquid cooling isn't necessarily quieter (pumps can get loud), and good air cooling can outperform it. If you want to go all out silent, you could use a passive cooler.

[Gnomo]

7 minutes ago, Angy said:

any reason why you wouldn't go on CPU liquid cooling?

I don't see the need for it and it makes more trouble then air cooling.

6 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

For video editing?

Those. Don't know what you're doing there.

I'd double check the PSU quality as well.

Yes, lots of bluray editing and burning,music editing.

one for OS and one for data.

Is the be quiet no Tier 1?

 

 

3 minutes ago, rphawks said:

6700K is overkill for an RX 480. I would get a better graphics card.

 

Drop the 950 Pro and 750 EVO for a 850 EVO drive. 950 Pro's are still not worth the price, and 750 EVO's don't really fit at this price range. 

 

Get a modular power supply. At this price range, it's what I would go for. Also, check the quality of that PSU. You can never go wrong with a Corsair RMx or EVGA G2 PSU.

 

 

 

 

Better a 6700T? The 480 was silent and cool in some test videos, better then most other cards of AMD. Not sure if the 1060 works even cooler.

Thinking about using the 950 for OS and programs and the 500gb 750 Evo for data till it is stored at dvd's/blurays or other storage.
So the evga instead, it has a passive mode?

[Angy]

I would go nvidia for the GPU, such as the 1060.

It runs cooler which means the fans don't need to run at a high speed, making it quiet 

[Clanscorpia]

3 minutes ago, Angy said:

I would go nvidia for the GPU, such as the 1060.

It runs cooler which means the fans don't need to run at a high speed, making it quiet 

Dude, they run at the same this is 1.4 not 1.2

[rphawks]

3 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

I don't see the need for it and it makes more trouble then air cooling.

Yes, lots of bluray editing and burning,music editing.

one for OS and one for data.

Is the be quiet no Tier 1?

 

 

Better a 6700T? The 480 was silent and cool in some test videos, better then most other cards of AMD. Not sure if the 1060 works even cooler.

Thinking about using the 950 for OS and programs and the 500gb 750 Evo for data till it is stored at dvd's/blurays or other storage.
So the evga instead, it has a passive mode?

At this price point... you could even go for a 1070 and change up the mobo or the storage. Some cards, like the MSI 1070 Gaming X, have passive modes, so they don't start spinning the fans until the card needs cooling. 

 

As for the OS, you don't really need an M.2 drive for it. It's just not necessary.

[Gnomo]

so it would look something like this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700T 2.8GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (€308.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (€64.84 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: EVGA Z170 FTW ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€292.84 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Crucial MX200 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€281.10 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  (€277.11 @ Mindfactory)
Case: be quiet! SILENT BASE 600 w/Window (Silver) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€112.89 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€100.00)
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (€25.64 @ Mindfactory)
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (€25.64 @ Mindfactory)
Other:  16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX schwarz DDR4-2133 DIMM CL13 Dual Kit (€75.86)
Total: €1564.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-11 06:19 CEST+0200

 

can I play with the multiplier of the i7here or do I need the 6700k?

[Shahnewaz]

55 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

Yes, lots of bluray editing and burning,music editing.

one for OS and one for data.

Is the be quiet no Tier 1?

Two separate SSDs are a waste of money. Just get one big SSD. You get no benefit separating OS and data anyway.

Checked the lists. Not Tier 1, but good enough.

[Gnomo]

5 hours ago, Shahnewaz said:

Two separate SSDs are a waste of money. Just get one big SSD. You get no benefit separating OS and data anyway.

Checked the lists. Not Tier 1, but good enough.

Also no use in making two partions?

Okay, but also switched to the Evga in the build.

I can't find much information about the i7 6700T. Hm.

 

 

[rphawks]

2 hours ago, Gnomo said:

Also no use in making two partions?

Okay, but also switched to the Evga in the build.

I can't find much information about the i7 6700T. Hm.

 

 

No point in getting a Z170 board with the 6700T. They're about the same price, so go for the 6700K.

[Shahnewaz]

6 hours ago, Gnomo said:

Also no use in making two partions?

Okay, but also switched to the Evga in the build.

I can't find much information about the i7 6700T. Hm.

Two separate drives will only help if there is data loss, corruption or malware in one of your drives. Partitioning gives you the same benefit without having to get separate drives. So if you're really paranoid about marginally improved security, then you can create separate partitions for OS and data.

A better measure would be to backup your data regularly.

Either of the two PSUs is fine, unless you want to do serious overclocking or push the PSU to the limit.

http://ark.intel.com/products/88200/Intel-Core-i7-6700T-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

The i7-6700T is a low power CPU. Why do you want that?

[Gnomo]

28 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

Two separate drives will only help if there is data loss, corruption or malware in one of your drives. Partitioning gives you the same benefit without having to get separate drives. So if you're really paranoid about marginally improved security, then you can create separate partitions for OS and data.

A better measure would be to backup your data regularly.

Either of the two PSUs is fine, unless you want to do serious overclocking or push the PSU to the limit.

http://ark.intel.com/products/88200/Intel-Core-i7-6700T-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

The i7-6700T is a low power CPU. Why do you want that?

it is something I learned a long, long time ago (around 2000) that the OS should always be at a seperated drive to run better and that you don't slow the OS down by moving big data packages on the same drive.
I have a NAS and an online backup for the most important data, Since the last time I got a triple fail in the system I have now the data 4 times, one time online.

Undervolting for now and then slowly push the cpu to its limits when more cpu power is needed.

temps, voltage, efficiency

[JHY]

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vT2bpb

[Shahnewaz]

38 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

it is something I learned a long, long time ago (around 2000) that the OS should always be at a seperated drive to run better and that you don't slow the OS down by moving big data packages on the same drive.

Myth. Even less of an issue since you're getting an SSD.

38 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

I have a NAS and an online backup for the most important data, Since the last time I got a triple fail in the system I have now the data 4 times, one time online.

That really nullifies any reason to spend more on data security. Save your money and get a single bigger SSD.

39 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

Undervolting for now and then slowly push the cpu to its limits when more cpu power is needed.

temps, voltage, efficiency

http://ark.intel.com/compare/88195,88200

The difference in base frequency is enormous. That would really hamper your editing performance. And the T variant is locked, if you want to overclock after undervolting.

[Gnomo]

5 hours ago, Shahnewaz said:

Myth. Even less of an issue since you're getting an SSD.

That really nullifies any reason to spend more on data security. Save your money and get a single bigger SSD.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/88195,88200

The difference in base frequency is enormous. That would really hamper your editing performance. And the T variant is locked, if you want to overclock after undervolting.

So the 6700T is no option. It seems the best i7 would be the 6700K. Any knowledge how good it works for undervolting? How much can I lower the power consumption if I go for the 6700T base and turbo clock.
Checked Intel for alternatives, is the i7-6785R an alternative? When I understand it correctly, it should be the followup of the 5775C which is also unlocked?
 

[Shahnewaz]

18 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

So the 6700T is no option. It seems the best i7 would be the 6700K. Any knowledge how good it works for undervolting? How much can I lower the power consumption if I go for the 6700T base and turbo clock.
Checked Intel for alternatives, is the i7-6785R an alternative? When I understand it correctly, it should be the followup of the 5775C which is also unlocked?
 

Check online for "Skylake overclocking guide", there should be plenty available.

• The T variant has a TDP of 35W, and a base clock of 2.8GHz.
• The K variant has a TDP of 91W, and a base clock of 4.0GHz. This is the only model with an unlocked multiplier.
• The R variant is not a retail product.
• The standard variant has a TDP of 65W and a base clock of 3.4GHz.

All models are capable of undervolting. Why are you obsessed with lowering power consumption? All of these TDP numbers are pretty mild for any good air cooler.

The i7-6785R is not a successor to the i7-5775C. The i7-6785R part is an embedded CPU, whereas the i7-5775C is your standard desktop CPU. There is no direct successor to the i7-5775C.

[Gnomo]

2 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

Check online for "Skylake overclocking guide", there should be plenty available.

• The T variant has a TDP of 35W, and a base clock of 2.8GHz.
• The K variant has a TDP of 91W, and a base clock of 4.0GHz. This is the only model with an unlocked multiplier.
• The R variant is not a retail product.
• The standard variant has a TDP of 65W and a base clock of 3.4GHz.

All models are capable of undervolting. Why are you obsessed with lowering power consumption? All of these TDP numbers are pretty mild for any good air cooler.

The i7-6785R is not a successor to the i7-5775C. The i7-6785R part is an embedded CPU, whereas the i7-5775C is your standard desktop CPU. There is no direct successor to the i7-5775C.

because I have seen 25-30% decrease in power consumption and up to 12°C lower temperatures. The power is not needed at the moment but sure will be needed as it is needed to OC a 2500k/3770k etc.

So the only real choice will be the 6700K? Ok.

Everything else of the build would be fine?

[Shahnewaz]

2 hours ago, Gnomo said:

because I have seen 25-30% decrease in power consumption and up to 12°C lower temperatures. The power is not needed at the moment but sure will be needed as it is needed to OC a 2500k/3770k etc.

So the only real choice will be the 6700K? Ok.

Everything else of the build would be fine?

12°C isn't what you should worry about. The only thing that you should care with temperatures is whether or not they are within safe operating limits.

The power reduction comes with decreased performance. I don't understand why you're not getting it. You want an editing rig, and then you are asking for a low power processor... Doesn't make sense. Video rendering requires a lot of cores and a lot of per-core performance. Asking for a low power, low speed i7 is just counter-intuitive. Just because it says "i7" doesn't mean it's powerful. I hope this makes things clear.

If you're worried about temps, get a beefy cooler. Simple.

If you are overclocking after undervolting, then the 6700K is the only Skylake option. If you're only undervolting, then the 6700 non-K is a better choice.

 

Are you trying to save on power bills with this build?

[Gnomo]

20 hours ago, Shahnewaz said:

12°C isn't what you should worry about. The only thing that you should care with temperatures is whether or not they are within safe operating limits.

The power reduction comes with decreased performance. I don't understand why you're not getting it. You want an editing rig, and then you are asking for a low power processor... Doesn't make sense. Video rendering requires a lot of cores and a lot of per-core performance. Asking for a low power, low speed i7 is just counter-intuitive. Just because it says "i7" doesn't mean it's powerful. I hope this makes things clear.

If you're worried about temps, get a beefy cooler. Simple.

If you are overclocking after undervolting, then the 6700K is the only Skylake option. If you're only undervolting, then the 6700 non-K is a better choice.

 

Are you trying to save on power bills with this build?

My problem with buying another i7-6700k is that I already have one and that one needs 1.34V! without OC!
The i7 6700k has not much left to go higher therefore? And the power withdraw is pretty high.

It is not about saving on the power bill (even though the machine would run 24/7). Another reason for undervolting is that the machine was fast enough for me while being an AMD dual-core without HT. The cpu wasn't the bottleneck, it was never at 100%.

The videos are taken from tv or other sources, getting rid of the ads etc. then burn them on dvd. So the bottleneck is the dvd/bluray-writer.

The other thing done is gaming, where I also don't need 8 threads at 4GHz, which is why I am thinking of undervolting. I mean everyone does OC for more power, I need less power, so why not undervolting it?
I think it is a beefy cooler?

 

and that not every i7 means powerful I am aware of, I am just looking for the best cpu for the job.

 

it isn't about saving money on power bills or something. It is about using only the amount needed and then OC when more power is needed or is the idea itself really so stupid?

[Shahnewaz]

15 minutes ago, Gnomo said:

My problem with buying another i7-6700k is that I already have one and that one needs 1.34V! without OC!
The i7 6700k has not much left to go higher therefore? And the power withdraw is pretty high.

It is not about saving on the power bill (even though the machine would run 24/7). Another reason for undervolting is that the machine was fast enough for me while being an AMD dual-core without HT. The cpu wasn't the bottleneck, it was never at 100%.

The videos are taken from tv or other sources, getting rid of the ads etc. then burn them on dvd. So the bottleneck is the dvd/bluray-writer.

The other thing done is gaming, where I also don't need 8 threads at 4GHz, which is why I am thinking of undervolting. I mean everyone does OC for more power, I need less power, so why not undervolting it?
I think it is a beefy cooler?

 

and that not every i7 means powerful I am aware of, I am just looking for the best cpu for the job.

 

it isn't about saving money on power bills or something. It is about using only the amount needed and then OC when more power is needed or is the idea itself really so stupid?

Sounds like you don't really need an unlocked i7.

If your workload doesn't demand all that CPU power, and the most you'll do is gaming, then I'd simply recommend something like this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€202.84 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€63.43 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€44.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€162.84 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO+ 4G Video Card  (€230.91 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€42.73 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€64.27 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €811.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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