860K temperatures

[silverjay928]

Hello guys i have an 860K that i havent overclocked at all and heres the problem, i have tried 3 different coolers and still wont go below 50C  and usually sits around 60C at idle i have used: Stock cooler, Arctice Freezer A11, and Hyper 212 Evo ( have it in right now). still wont go below 50C and still hovers at 60C on idle is this usual? my last option is an AIO would that work orr do i just have a hot binned chip

[Guest]

something is wrong. 

 

Could be: 

1. thermal paste

2. CPU cooler installation

3. bad temp sensors

 

that chip should not idle that high.

 

[crysilis]

3 minutes ago, silverjay928 said:

Hello guys i have an 860K that i havent overclocked at all and heres the problem, i have tried 3 different coolers and still wont go below 50C  and usually sits around 60C at idle i have used: Stock cooler, Arctice Freezer A11, and Hyper 212 Evo ( have it in right now). still wont go below 50C and still hovers at 60C on idle is this usual? my last option is an AIO would that work orr do i just have a hot binned chip

have you tried reapplying thermal paste?

[EPPHO]

Idle temps can be wrong in many cases, if your temps at full load are ok then i would not panic at all  

[incarnate]

What program are you using to monitor temps. AMD cpus don't cooperate with most

[silverjay928]

2 minutes ago, crysilis said:

have you tried reapplying thermal paste?

yep used 3 different types as well

[silverjay928]

Just now, incarnate said:

What program are you using to monitor temps. AMD cpus don't cooperate with most

using CAM and HWMonitor

[silverjay928]

1 minute ago, frozeNNN said:

Idle temps can be wrong in many cases, if your temps at full load are ok then i would not panic at all  

well right now im doing some BF4 on Ultra setting and getting arround 75C-80C is that ok?

[don_svetlio]

Just now, silverjay928 said:

well right now im doing some BF4 on Ultra setting and getting arround 75C-80C is that ok?

No, the max safe for AMD CPUs currently is 67*C

[incarnate]

4 minutes ago, silverjay928 said:

using CAM and HWMonitor

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html

 

AMD calculates temps differently. Use amd overdrive for load temps. So long as the thermal margin is higher than 0 you're fine.

 

Socket temp is only useful at idle.

 

Check your temps in overdrive before assuming you have a problem.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

18 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

No, the max safe for AMD CPUs currently is 67*C

No, it depends on the CPU, and for that one in particular it is 72C

 

14 minutes ago, incarnate said:

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html

 

AMD calculates temps differently. Use amd overdrive for load temps. So long as the thermal margin is higher than 0 you're fine.

 

Socket temp is only useful at idle.

 

Check your temps in overdrive before assuming you have a problem.

Overdrive can report temps or thermal margins (I don't know if it depends on the version of Overdrive or the CPU model). It is indeed useful to check what Overdrive reports, and which values.

 

I don't understand the claim that socket temps are useful only at idle. They are always useful, the only known misreport are core temps at idle, as long as they are low enough. High temps and load temps are typically reliable for both core and socket temps.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

27 minutes ago, Alexokan said:

something is wrong. 

 

Could be: 

1. thermal paste

2. CPU cooler installation

3. bad temp sensors

 

that chip should not idle that high.

 

4. Idle not being idle

It's worth to check task manager -> processes from all users -> sort by cpu usage

[SLAYR]

50 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

No, the max safe for AMD CPUs currently is 67*C

That is the max when measured on the IHS by a seperate temperature probe, not the core temps.

 

Intel also reports max temps like this, the 6700k has a max temp of 64C, but can hit core temps of 70-80C and be perfectly fine. 

http://ark.intel.com/m/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz#@product/specifications

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, SLAYR said:

That is the max when measured on the IHS by a seperate temperature probe, not the core temps.

 

Intel also reports max temps like this, the 6700k has a max temp of 64C, but can hit core temps of 70-80C and be perfectly fine. 

http://ark.intel.com/m/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz#@product/specifications

Thing is - AMD do NOT use LGA type sockets and thus higher temps will destroy the socket releasing deadly fumes.

[SLAYR]

14 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Thing is - AMD do NOT use LGA type sockets and thus higher temps will destroy the socket releasing deadly fumes.

If you are talking about the plastic socket, used on pga, those won't melt due to even 100C, pretty much almost all plastics melt at about 150C-200C, the silicon in the cpu will degrade before the motherboard socket melts.

[incarnate]

4 hours ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

 

I don't understand the claim that socket temps are useful only at idle. They are always useful, the only known misreport are core temps at idle, as long as they are low enough. High temps and load temps are typically reliable for both core and socket temps.

No socket temps are always lower. The thing is, at load the socket temps could be under max safe temps, while the core (the actual source of the heat) could be above max safe temps.

 

At any rate, if you don't want to use the tools the manufacture of your cpu provides, that's your prerogative.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

2 hours ago, incarnate said:

No socket temps are always lower. The thing is, at load the socket temps could be under max safe temps, while the core (the actual source of the heat) could be above max safe temps.

 

At any rate, if you don't want to use the tools the manufacture of your cpu provides, that's your prerogative.

No, socket temps are actually always higher. :-? 

In any case, cpu manufacturer limits are in terms of core temps, so you want to monitor that. But motherboards will toggle thrortling and overheating protection based on socket temps.