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Gtx 780ti vs Gtx 970 vs Gtx 1060 3gb vs Rx 470 4gb

Gokufighther

So i have had to bump my budget of $2000 down for the build i wanted to do (in my signature right now) to $1500 and that means i am getting a slightly worse gpu than the rx480 i wanted. Now i am looking into other options, i am also considering buying a used 970 or a used 780ti if they are still relevant for good fps 1080p gaming.

 

The cards i am considering are the ones in the title, the 780ti (specifically the asus dcu2 one) the 970 (gigabyte g1 gaming) the 1060 3gb (asus dual or similar in price) and the rx 470 (sapphire nitro or similar in price)

 

My budget is around $200 as you can see, this is so i can keep on budget (im actually slightly over at like $1600)

 

Anyway, i want to know which one is the best value for my money right now, i cannot spend any more on the gpu, do not recommend the 1060 6gb or rx 480, and dont recommend reference cards, i do like the build to stay cooler and more quiet.

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the gtx 1060 or the rx 470 seem like the obvious choice here. You could get a few extra dollars by picking a smaller psu, something like 650w will do just fine.

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Why would you spend $1500 and not have a 1070 is beyond me.

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52 minutes ago, xGGAx said:

the gtx 1060 or the rx 470 seem like the obvious choice here. You could get a few extra dollars by picking a smaller psu, something like 650w will do just fine.

Already own the 750 w. Got it on sale for $40 off retail $120, so i paid $78.99 total for it... Too good to pass up.

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51 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Why would you spend $1500 and not have a 1070 is beyond me.

I dont have a monitor, keyboard, headset, or any real "peripherals" close to standards. I am going to be spending $500 just on that!

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56 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

Why are you changing the case?

Im changing it cuz im giving the pc away to my brother who is autistic. I want that one to be his so i have 1 less thing to upg for him.

 

Also i am getting the 460x not the evolve case

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59 minutes ago, Jorgen297 said:

The 700 series is neglected by Nvidia, and won't be very future proof at all.

Tech yes city did a vid on that and the 780ti performs pretty well. Im only really going to be playing older games plus the occasional fps or demanding title

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2 minutes ago, Gokufighther said:

I dont have a monitor, keyboard, headset, or any real "peripherals" close to standards. I am going to be spending $500 just on that!

Then don't get x99 then

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I can get a 470 fpr around $200, a 1060 3gb for $230, a 970 for $200 or a 780ti for around $170-$200

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1 minute ago, Hunter259 said:

Then don't get x99 then

It can fit and work fine... I mean the only thing i really need to change is getting less ram, get 16gb instead of 32, but im going to be using the computer for cybersecurity classes, it will be used during college next year for engineering, it will be used for gaming as well as document keeping and maybe video editing and recording for youtube and twitch as a hobby. I could go for a 6700k, but i just feel like the xeon would perform better and i really do love that motherboard :)

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2 minutes ago, Gokufighther said:

It can fit and work fine... I mean the only thing i really need to change is getting less ram, get 16gb instead of 32, but im going to be using the computer for cybersecurity classes, it will be used during college next year for engineering, it will be used for gaming as well as document keeping and maybe video editing and recording for youtube and twitch as a hobby. I could go for a 6700k, but i just feel like the xeon would perform better and i really do love that motherboard :)

And a 6 core would do the job just as well and be higher clocked. I don't understand the 8 core. Lord a 3770k would be fine.

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4 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

And a 6 core would do the job just as well and be higher clocked. I don't understand the 8 core. Lord a 3770k would be fine.

What 8 core? The 2670 v3 is a 12 core. Not to be confused with the 2670 v1 for 2011 non 3

 

Also there is no 6 core that can be fit into my budget. (unless i got a 1.6ghz one for the same price new and non es)

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Just now, Gokufighther said:

What 8 core? The 2670 v3 is a 12 core. Not to be confused with the 2670 v1 for 2011 non 3

 

Also there is no 6 core that can be fit into my budget. (unless i got a 1.6ghz one for the same price new and non es)

Oh you are trying THAT. Don't. Theres a reason that chip is so massivly underpriced. Thats a $200 paper weight waiting to happen.

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Just now, Hunter259 said:

Oh you are trying THAT. Don't. Theres a reason that chip is so massivly underpriced. Thats a $200 paper weight waiting to happen.

Have you watched any of tech city's videos? He buys and makes used computers with em all the time dude and they work just fine.

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1 minute ago, Gokufighther said:

Have you watched any of tech city's videos? He buys and makes used computers with em all the time dude and they work just fine.

And i doubt he's buying weird 12 cores from some dude in Japan. This is a bad idea. Go X79 if price really is important and you absolutely need more than 4 cores.

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2 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Oh you are trying THAT. Don't. Theres a reason that chip is so massivly underpriced. Thats a $200 paper weight waiting to happen.

Do you really think i should spend $50 less on the mobo and $90 less on the ram and get a 6700k? Im not completely against the idea, i just feel like the xeon will be similar in games at 1080p and will help out with multitasking

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1 minute ago, Hunter259 said:

And i doubt he's buying weird 12 cores from some dude in Japan. This is a bad idea. Go X79 if price really is important and you absolutely need more than 4 cores.

Arent x79 boards like stupid expensive. I think they go for like $330 or something like that here. So i would be spending $100 less on the processor and $100 more on the mobo?

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1 minute ago, Gokufighther said:

Do you really think i should spend $50 less on the mobo and $90 less on the ram and get a 6700k? Im not completely against the idea, i just feel like the xeon will be similar in games at 1080p and will help out with multitasking

It will be worse by a good margin. You are looking at a much much much lower clock and that will hurt you. My chip maybe faster than that thing in single core. Also multitasking is easily done by pretty much every chip made in the last 6 years.

Just now, Gokufighther said:

Arent x79 boards like stupid expensive. I think they go for like $330 or something like that here. So i would be spending $100 less on the processor and $100 more on the mobo?

Theres a guy in here rn selling a 8 core and a mobo for 350.

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How did this topic even come to be my cpu choice... I just wanted to know what gpu is better for the money q.q

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6 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

It will be worse by a good margin. You are looking at a much much much lower clock and that will hurt you. My chip maybe faster than that thing in single core. Also multitasking is easily done by pretty much every chip made in the last 6 years.

Theres a guy in here rn selling a 8 core and a mobo for 350.

i cant buy like today or even in the next week. i have been saving for awhile and i only recently realized how expensive $2000 is. i am still saving even now! i have to save a grand total of around $1700 for the computer, and $200 of that is the replace the mobo in this one, get another, cheaper psu so i can keep my g2, and add 8gb more ram.

 

i did do some research on the processor and it looks like it turbos up to around 2.6-2.7ghz on all cores making that about in line with something like an i5 6400, but with 3x the cores and 6x the threads

 

again this is for 1080p gaming with recording happening and maybe streaming as well. i dont want to ever get into capture cards and having 2 pcs for this

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3 minutes ago, Gokufighther said:

i cant buy like today or even in the next week. i have been saving for awhile and i only recently realized how expensive $2000 is. i am still saving even now! i have to save a grand total of around $1700 for the computer, and $200 of that is the replace the mobo in this one, get another, cheaper psu so i can keep my g2, and add 8gb more ram.

 

i did do some research on the processor and it looks like it turbos up to around 2.6-2.7ghz on all cores making that about in line with something like an i5 6400, but with 3x the cores and 6x the threads

 

again this is for 1080p gaming with recording happening and maybe streaming as well. i dont want to ever get into capture cards and having 2 pcs for this

also if i am seeming stubborn, its not that. i am only just making absolute sure about this before i decide to change my mind. $1500 is no joke for money for me, that is literally MY WHOLE LIFE SAVINGS right now.

 

i am also a really avid debator, i like to analyze the arguments at hand and present evidence on what i know, if there is something i am unaware of it is usually argued against me like this and i back up my claims with evidence and if it is still incorrect on my part like this could be, then i will change to something that is more suited for my budget :)

 

sorry if you are offed by this btw :P

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3 hours ago, Gokufighther said:

What 8 core? The 2670 v3 is a 12 core. Not to be confused with the 2670 v1 for 2011 non 3

 

Also there is no 6 core that can be fit into my budget. (unless i got a 1.6ghz one for the same price new and non es)

but where did you find the 12 core xeon for 200$ bro?!

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I vote for RX 470 it seems the most solid choice thanks to the 4GB of VRAM! :)

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Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation)
Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
HiSilicon Kirin 810 (T.S.M.C. 7nm) - Huawei P40 Lite / Huawei nova 7i
Mediatek MT2601 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TicWatch E
Mediatek MT6580 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (orange)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (yellow)
Mediatek MT6735 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM
Mediatek MT6737 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - Cherry Mobile Flare S6
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (blue)
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (gold)
Mediatek MT6750 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - honor 6C Pro / honor V9 Play
Mediatek MT6765 (T.S.M.C 12nm) - TECNO Pouvoir 3 Plus
Mediatek MT6797D (T.S.M.C 20nm) - my|phone Brown Tab 1
Qualcomm MSM8926 (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
Qualcomm MSM8974AA (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Blackberry Passport
Qualcomm SDM710 (Samsung 10nm) - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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