What should I upgrade?

[Chaoss1848]

Hey forums!

 

I didn't know exactly where to post this but I want to upgrade either my CPU or my GPU.

 

specs:

ASUS 144hz 1080p monitor

i5 3570k @4.4GHz

MSI GTX 980Ti Gaming 6G Edition (I think I lost the silicon lottery on this one as it has loads of probs)

Gigabyte z77 d3h mobo

16gigs of RAM.

 

anyways should I get a gtx 1070 or 1080.

 

OR

 

get a i7 6700k + mobo + RAM

 

money isnt that much of a problem. I just want to get some second opinions!

 

main use for the parts will be gaming and some school stuff at 1080p 60 to 144 fps

(with issues mentioned above for example is I can't run the witcher 3 (without hairworks) at ultra 1080p on solid 60fps while I EASILY should. hell I cant even run Enderal (the skyrim mod) at 60 fps with medium settings nor am I able to play fallout 4 properly.)

 

I also got issues which I think are caused by bottlenecking.

 

hopefully I can get some help on this subject

[Hans Christian | Teri]

No apparent reason to upgrade any of those.

[Chaoss1848]

Just now, Hans Christian | Teri said:

No apparent reason to upgrade any of those.

even if my gpu can't do the things it's supposed to be able to do?

[Hans Christian | Teri]

Just now, Chaoss1848 said:

even if my gpu can't do the things it's supposed to be able to do?

Unless you massively abused it I would say the problem is not your GPU, but something else. Software maybe?

[justminefall]

• You should not be having those problems with your GPU! Everything that you currently have should be sufficient for your needs already. I wouldnt upgrade anything yet. Especially for gaming at 1080p. Have you tried to trouble shoot the issues with your GPU?

[Chaoss1848]

Just now, Hans Christian | Teri said:

Unless you massively abused it I would say the problem is not your GPU, but something else. Software maybe?

such as? I don't use any particulair software that could cause issues like this.

[Chaoss1848]

1 minute ago, justminefall said:

• You should not be having those problems with your GPU! Everything that you currently have should be sufficient for your needs already. I wouldnt upgrade anything yet. Especially for gaming at 1080p. Have you tried to trouble shoot the issues with your GPU?

how would I go about doing that?

[StaffCorporal]

Have you checked your CPU/GPU usage during gaming? If your CPU is pinned at 100% all the time, but your GPU is not. Then you should upgrade it. If it is the other way around, GPU upgrade.

[Chaoss1848]

Just now, StaffCorporal said:

Have you checked your CPU/GPU usage during gaming? If your CPU is pinned at 100% all the time, but your GPU is not. Then you should upgrade it. If it is the other way around, GPU upgrade.

cpu is never at 100% but often my gpu wont go past like 40 or sth.

[justminefall]

What sort of problems are occuring?

 

[StaffCorporal]

2 minutes ago, Chaoss1848 said:

cpu is never at 100% but often my gpu wont go past like 40 or sth.

Okay, it sounds like your hardware is not to blame then. If neither are being utilized to 100 % you have something else bottlenecking them.

 

Could also be that the GPU is faulty somehow, as you kind of stated yourself.

[Chaoss1848]

Just now, justminefall said:

What sort of problems are occuring?

 

well to put it bluntly. it doesn't overclock aswell as it should. (this is a minor prob)

out of the box it came underclocked and had to fix it by flashing the bios (Which worked fine) so thats one problem fixed I guess.

but it still isn't able to pull its weight on titles it should dominate.

 

for example the 980ti should run witcher 3 at ultra 1080p without hairworks on a steady 60fps. I can't get it past 45 tho.

[Gonio]

It should be able to do fine as far as your GPU goes. If you OCed it you might have a bad consistant OC, or your card has taken a hit to many. So you could try to decrease the OC. Are your drivers up to date? Also it might be that your CPU is bottlenecking the card. So what kind of problems you experienced then saying your card might be faulty?

 

Asuming the GPU is still fine I would swap CPU and mobo anyway if you wanted to upgrade, so I suggest that.

[Chaoss1848]

1 minute ago, StaffCorporal said:

Okay, it sounds like your hardware is not to blame then. If neither are being utilized to 100 % you have something else bottlenecking them.

 

Could also be that the GPU is faulty somehow, as you kind of stated yourself.

it's possible but I wouldn't have any clue on how to get a replacement.

[Chaoss1848]

1 minute ago, Gonio said:

It should be able to do fine as far as your GPU goes. If you OCed it you might have a bad consistant OC, or your card has taken a hit to many. So you could try to decrease the OC. Are your drivers up to date? Also it might be that your CPU is bottlenecking the card. So what kind of problems you experienced then saying your card might be faulty?

 

Asuming the GPU is still fine I would swap CPU and mobo anyway if you wanted to upgrade, so I suggest that.

tried disabeling/lowering the OC often but performance issues remained.

[Gonio]

How are temps etc, is your cooling/airflow good enough? Have you dusted out your PC. If it came bad out fo box would have send it back for a replacement. If you have garanty you could still do that. 980Ti ain't that old yet.

[Chaoss1848]

Just now, Gonio said:

How are temps etc, is your cooling/airflow good enough? Have you dusted out your PC. If it came bad out fo box would have send it back for a replacement. If you have garanty you could still do that. 980Ti ain't that old yet.

temps are fine. I never peak over 75. which is fine for the card. adn yes I dust out my pc alot.

[StaffCorporal]

2 minutes ago, Chaoss1848 said:

it's possible but I wouldn't have any clue on how to get a replacement.

Just RMA it?

 

Also if your PSU is shite it can do all sorts of fun stuff with your hardware.

[Taja]

Your gpu is really fucked up. I play enderal on a 750 ti in very high, on 1440x900 and get 40~75 fps (avg 55)

If the problem is indeed the gpu,change it.

[Chaoss1848]

7 minutes ago, StaffCorporal said:

Just RMA it?

 

Also if your PSU is shite it can do all sorts of fun stuff with your hardware.

I got a 700W powersupply. is that fine?

[Chaoss1848]

8 minutes ago, Taja said:

Your gpu is really fucked up. I play enderal on a 750 ti in very high, on 1440x900 and get 40~75 fps (avg 55)

If the problem is indeed the gpu,change it.

Enderal is a fine example of a game where my gpu doesnt go past 40-45% load. whilst my cpu isnt at 100% either.

[StaffCorporal]

8 minutes ago, Chaoss1848 said:

I got a 700W powersupply. is that fine?

It depends on the quality of it and how many amps it can deliver on the 12V rail. Your card needs 38 amps.

[Chaoss1848]

12 minutes ago, StaffCorporal said:

It depends on the quality of it and how many amps it can deliver on the 12V rail. Your card needs 38 amps.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018 this is the one I have I think.

if you could tell me if it's good as I don't know.

[StaffCorporal]

2 minutes ago, Chaoss1848 said:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018 this is the one I have I think.

That might be your problem since it can only deliver 25 amps on each of its two rails. If the power to the GPU is only drawn from one of the rails then you have a problem. Your GPU will basically be starving for power.

[Chaoss1848]

6 minutes ago, StaffCorporal said:

That might be your problem since it can only deliver 25 amps on each of its two rails. If the power to the GPU is only drawn from one of the rails then you have a problem. Your GPU will basically be starving for power.

I got 2 cables plugged into my GPU? does that mean I use 2 rails? if not should I get a new PSU? if so could you recommend me one