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Video Always Blurry

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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9 minutes ago, ALwin said:

If your focus was on that blade of grass in the middle, standing upright, yeah this is normal.

 

Can't really tell where your focus was aimed at, there appears to another blade of grass slightly to the left and in front that also seems to be in focus.

 

If you do a test like this, use a 2D object, like the test charts.

 

What was your f-stop?

It was 4.0 and It was using auto focus so I think it is focusing very close and in the middle of the screen to the right is most focused.

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6 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

It was 4.0 and It was using auto focus so I think it is focusing very close and in the middle of the screen to the right is most focused.

Well as I said, this is probably the softness that comes from the downscaling effect.  My video camera which as a native MP count close to 4K produces sharper images.

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2 minutes ago, ALwin said:

Well as I said, this is probably the softness that comes from the downscaling effect.  My video camera which as a native MP count close to 4K produces sharper images.

Alright. I will probably look for that when searching for a new camera in the future. As for now adding a sharpen effect is free

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27 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Alright. I will probably look for that when searching for a new camera in the future. As for now adding a sharpen effect is free

Here's a 1080p and 4K frame extract from two interviews filmed a while back.  In one interview I was recording at 1080p mode (meaning that the camera was taking the full 4K sensor scan and downscaling it in-camera to FHD before putting it on the memory card) and for the other I was filming at UHD.

 

I was using the same lens both times, with auto focus and at f/4 aperture.  Both are frame extracts from the original files, without any color correction or processing.  When the sensor is close to certain resolutions that scales well when downscaling to resolutions such as FHD or HD, the sharpness doesn't suffer too much.  A 36MP Nikon D800/E full sensor scan FHD video is sharper than a Nikon D4's 16MP full sensor scan FHD video.

 

1080p frame extract (This was recorded to Rec.709 color space, MPEG 422)

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4k frame extract (This was recorded with SLog3 XAVC-I)

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1 minute ago, ALwin said:

Here's a 1080p and 4K frame extract from two interviews filmed a while back.  In one interview I was recording at 1080p mode (meaning that the camera was taking the full 4K sensor scan and downscaling it in-camera to FHD before putting it on the memory card) and for the other I was filming at UHD.

 

I was using the same lens both times, with auto focus and at f/4 aperture.  Both are frame extracts from the original files, without any color correction.  When the sensor is close to certain resolutions that scales well when downscaling to resolutions such as FHD or HD, the sharpness doesn't suffer too much.  A 36MP Nikon D800/E full sensor scan FHD video is sharper than a Nikon D4's 16MP full sensor scan FHD video.

 

1080p frame extract (This was recorded to Rec.709 color space, MPEG 422)

 

 

4k frame extract (This was recorded with SLog3 XAVC-I)

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Wow the detail in the hair is incredible! 

Yep, with this lens.  It's not a great lens, but it's sufficiently good.

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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

It was using auto focus so I think it is focusing very close

I read this and took a pause.... Are you controlling your autofocus point?

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27 minutes ago, Evanair said:

I read this and took a pause.... Are you controlling your autofocus point?

I am experimenting. I use a shoulder rig and I can't focus and zoom at the same time. I usually set the type of auto focus, how many points, the speed of the object , and so on. Then I can use the focus wheel as a zoom wheel and get what I want. For B roll yes I would use manual.

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9 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

I am experimenting. I use a shoulder rig and I can't focus and zoom at the same time. I usually set the type of auto focus, how many points, the speed of the object , and so on. Then I can use the focus wheel as a zoom wheel and get what I want. For B roll yes I would use manual.


If you are using a shoulder rig you need a follow focus, so you can adjust focus manually much easier

I would never trust the camera AF for most situations 

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9 hours ago, ShadowCaptain said:


If you are using a shoulder rig you need a follow focus, so you can adjust focus manually much easier

I would never trust the camera AF for most situations 

Thats what I thought too but after some time the AF is much faster then I could ever be. It focused on a football in the air at night when I didn't even see it.

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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

Thats what I thought too but after some time the AF is much faster then I could ever be. It focused on a football in the air at night when I didn't even see it.


Yeah it depends what you are filming ofc

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Yeah it depends what you are filming ofc

Yes for B roll I would obviously use manual

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27 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Yes for B roll I would obviously use manual

Whether you use AF or MF doesn't really matter, as long as you understand the advantages and disadvantages of both techniques.  AF works great for simple scenes, where the subject you are trying to keep focus on is clearly "identifiable" to the camera.  But AF can easily fail when the scene you are filming contains so many elements at various layers that the system becomes confused and does not know what it is supposed to track.

 

MF is preferred if you want to do cinematic style focus pulling, to enhance the story.  But it's not easy to use MF for doing something like a Hitchcock zoom, you would need a few people to pull it off (one to operate the camera, perhaps a separate person to push/pull the slider or track that the camera is sitting on, one to control the zoom, and one to control the change in focus).

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On August 31, 2016 at 1:53 PM, ALwin said:

Whether you use AF or MF doesn't really matter, as long as you understand the advantages and disadvantages of both techniques.  AF works great for simple scenes, where the subject you are trying to keep focus on is clearly "identifiable" to the camera.  But AF can easily fail when the scene you are filming contains so many elements at various layers that the system becomes confused and does not know what it is supposed to track.

 

MF is preferred if you want to do cinematic style focus pulling, to enhance the story.  But it's not easy to use MF for doing something like a Hitchcock zoom, you would need a few people to pull it off (one to operate the camera, perhaps a separate person to push/pull the slider or track that the camera is sitting on, one to control the zoom, and one to control the change in focus).

I figured it out! It is always blurry because I am shooting nuetral for the best color grading possible. With this comes with sharpen that is set to minimum as it is expected you will do so in post.

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