Dedicated Minecraft Server Hardware Help Needed

[Alexcalibur]

So I am currently running my minecraft server off of an old PC, inside I have a i3-2120, 8Gb DDR3 1200hz RAM (I think, if not it is lower), 240Gb HDD. I would like to upgrade this and either make my own server chassis or buy one off of ebay, but that isn't what I am here for. What I am here for is I would like to upgrade the hardware and I would like to know what I should upgrade.

 

My Stock

2 x i3-2120s

1 x 2Gb DDR3 1333 

1 x X6550 Xeon

1 x 2Gb DDR3 1200U

2 x 1Gb DDR3 500U

2 x H61 MOBO

 

Now what I want is more than enough ram, however I don't know how much I am able to load onto a LGA 1155 motherboard. I know the two that I have only support something like 16 or 32GB. I also want to know if I should buy a motherboard suitable for the X6550 Xeon, as that has a RAM cap at like 1Tb lol. However I need to keep in mind that I would have to buy another X6550 if I wanted to use it as they are meant to work in pairs on most motherboards I have seen on eBay. 

 

TLDR; I want to upgrade my minecraft server, and I want to know what path I should go down

a. Buy all new (used) hardware and go from there

b. Buy a motherboard for my X6550 and use that

c. Buy a better motherboard for one of my i3-2120s and just run it off of there

 

Thanks for reading, if you can make any sense out of my rambling. 

[007agentHP]

8 minutes ago, IskanderEXC said:

So I am currently running my minecraft server off of an old PC, inside I have a i3-2120, 8Gb DDR3 1200hz RAM (I think, if not it is lower), 240Gb HDD. I would like to upgrade this and either make my own server chassis or buy one off of ebay, but that isn't what I am here for. What I am here for is I would like to upgrade the hardware and I would like to know what I should upgrade.

 

My Stock

2 x i3-2120s

1 x 2Gb DDR3 1333 

1 x X6550 Xeon

1 x 2Gb DDR3 1200U

2 x 1Gb DDR3 500U

2 x H61 MOBO

 

Now what I want is more than enough ram, however I don't know how much I am able to load onto a LGA 1155 motherboard. I know the two that I have only support something like 16 or 32GB. I also want to know if I should buy a motherboard suitable for the X6550 Xeon, as that has a RAM cap at like 1Tb lol. However I need to keep in mind that I would have to buy another X6550 if I wanted to use it as they are meant to work in pairs on most motherboards I have seen on eBay. 

 

TLDR; I want to upgrade my minecraft server, and I want to know what path I should go down

a. Buy all new (used) hardware and go from there

b. Buy a motherboard for my X6550 and use that

c. Buy a better motherboard for one of my i3-2120s and just run it off of there

 

Thanks for reading, if you can make any sense out of my rambling. 

the Xeon X6550 is a 8c/16t chip

2 of those would do fine

but they run on the LGA 1567 Socket

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Dell-R810-System-Motherboard-with-Metal-Back-Plate-FDG2M-/361488518620?hash=item542a650ddc:g:SDQAAOSwPc9WvQa8

something like this wih 32 cores and 64 threads would (4 cpus) would run basically any server setup

[ScratchCat]

16-32 is more than enough for a minecraft server, how many people are you trying to host for?

I hosted my own bukkit server on a t5450 and 2gb RAM (1024mb for server) for up to 10 people.

[Alexcalibur]

Just now, ScratchCat said:

16-32 is more than enough for a minecraft server, how many people are you trying to host for?

I hosted my own bukkit server on a t5450 and 2gb RAM (1024mb for server) for up to 10 people.

Currently I an hoping for a consistent 15-30 people 24/7, with surges upwards of 50. This will also need to support a lot of plugins, and other whatnot. I do believe the ram I am asking for this is suitable, because I would like a very minimal if any lag experience for the players on the server

[Alexcalibur]

3 minutes ago, 007agentHP said:

the Xeon X6550 is a 8c/16t chip

2 of those would do fine

but they run on the LGA 1567 Socket

 

Yea the problem with the 1567 socket is the availability of the motherboards  

[007agentHP]

Just now, IskanderEXC said:

Yea the problem with the 1567 socket is the availability of the motherboards  

check my post again

that is a 4 cpu motherboard

32 cores 64 threads

[ScratchCat]

Rather invest in an i5 or i7 and a total of <16gb.

don't use the xeon, it will be power hungry and server stuff is quirky.

 

Edit:

Also it will be hard to find a correct case and will get increasingly expensive to buy replacement parts for.

[Alexcalibur]

3 minutes ago, 007agentHP said:

check my post again

that is a 4 cpu motherboard

32 cores 64 threads

Whoops your right, my bad. I am not too keen on buying more and going that far overkill with that man phisical cores, might do what @ScratchCat said and invest into an i5

[Alexcalibur]

3 minutes ago, ScratchCat said:

Rather invest in an i5 or i7 and a total of <16gb.

don't use the xeon, it will be power hungry and server stuff is quirky.

 

Edit:

Also it will be hard to find a correct case and will get increasingly expensive to buy replacement parts for.

I was planning on just making my own out of some plywood, as all it will be doing is hanging from my closet wall lol

[007agentHP]

Just now, IskanderEXC said:

Whoops your right, my bad. I am not too keen on buying more and going that far overkill with that man phisical cores, might do what @ScratchCat said and invest into an i5

its always good to have extra cpu power

32 cores 64 threads will allow you to scale if your player base grows

 

[Alexcalibur]

1 minute ago, 007agentHP said:

its always good to have extra cpu power

32 cores 64 threads will allow you to scale if your player base grows

 

As optimistic as I am, I am not that lol. I am not expecting to really need 32 cores in a minecraft server. Right now the CPU of my i3-2120 is only at 40-50%, and that is a dual core /w hyperthreading

[ScratchCat]

Just now, IskanderEXC said:

As optimistic as I am, I am not that lol. I am not expecting to really need 32 cores in a minecraft server. Right now the CPU of my i3-2120 is only at 40-50%, and that is a dual core /w hyperthreading

What is your current ram usage and server allocation

[NinjaJc01]

16 minutes ago, 007agentHP said:

the Xeon X6550 is a 8c/16t chip

2 of those would do fine

but they run on the LGA 1567 Socket

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Dell-R810-System-Motherboard-with-Metal-Back-Plate-FDG2M-/361488518620?hash=item542a650ddc:g:SDQAAOSwPc9WvQa8

something like this wih 32 cores and 64 threads would (4 cpus) would run basically any server setup

I think minecraft server is only single threaded.

[ScratchCat]

Also if you want the server in your room you don't want old server hardware. It is not designed to be quii7

A consumer type i5 2500k or i7 2600k will be able to run much quieter.

[ScratchCat]

Just now, NinjaJc01 said:

I think minecraft server is only single threaded.

I don't think so, otherwise how would servers work for 1000s of people off a single thread.

[NinjaJc01]

Just now, ScratchCat said:

Also if you want the server in your room you don't want old server hardware. It is not designed to be quii7

A consumer type i5 2500k or i7 2600k will be able to run much quieter.

Wrong. You just don't want a server cooling solution/chassis. The CPUs don't make noise.

[NinjaJc01]

Just now, ScratchCat said:

I don't think so, otherwise how would servers work for 1000s of people off a single thread.

Because there is no minecraft server that hosts 1000 people.

[ScratchCat]

Just now, NinjaJc01 said:

Wrong. You just don't want a server cooling solution/chassis. The CPUs don't make noise.

I know they don't make noise but if you allow the device to control its own fans it will be very loud.

[ScratchCat]

Just now, NinjaJc01 said:

Because there is no minecraft server that hosts 1000 people.

This one has 3000+

http://www.planetminecraft.com/server/-hunger-games-free-to-play-no-whitelist-heaps-of-players/

[NinjaJc01]

1 minute ago, ScratchCat said:

I know they don't make noise but if you allow the device to control its own fans it will be very loud.

No. Only if you use a server chassis or cooler. And the way massive minecraft servers work is using hubs, and sub servers. It's single threaded.

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/archive/alpha/alpha-survival-multiplayer/823186-is-the-minecraft-server-multithreaded

[007agentHP]

4 minutes ago, NinjaJc01 said:

Because there is no minecraft server that hosts 1000 people.

Mineplex has 12000 people on right now

Hypixel has 24000 with a max capacity of 50000

 

there are servers with a lot more than just 1000

https://minecraft-server-list.com/sort/PlayersOnline/

[NinjaJc01]

Just now, 007agentHP said:

Mineplex has 12000 people on right now

Hypixel has 24000 with a max capacity of 50000

 

there are servers with a lot more than just 1000

https://minecraft-server-list.com/sort/PlayersOnline/

Due to the way it works, that isn't one server. It's several servers (For mineplex, hive etc, it uses hubs and sub servers for the games).

[gamerking]

1 hour ago, IskanderEXC said:

So I am currently running my minecraft server off of an old PC, inside I have a i3-2120, 8Gb DDR3 1200hz RAM (I think, if not it is lower), 240Gb HDD. I would like to upgrade this and either make my own server chassis or buy one off of ebay, but that isn't what I am here for. What I am here for is I would like to upgrade the hardware and I would like to know what I should upgrade.

 

My Stock

2 x i3-2120s

1 x 2Gb DDR3 1333 

1 x X6550 Xeon

1 x 2Gb DDR3 1200U

2 x 1Gb DDR3 500U

2 x H61 MOBO

 

Now what I want is more than enough ram, however I don't know how much I am able to load onto a LGA 1155 motherboard. I know the two that I have only support something like 16 or 32GB. I also want to know if I should buy a motherboard suitable for the X6550 Xeon, as that has a RAM cap at like 1Tb lol. However I need to keep in mind that I would have to buy another X6550 if I wanted to use it as they are meant to work in pairs on most motherboards I have seen on eBay. 

 

TLDR; I want to upgrade my minecraft server, and I want to know what path I should go down

a. Buy all new (used) hardware and go from there

b. Buy a motherboard for my X6550 and use that

c. Buy a better motherboard for one of my i3-2120s and just run it off of there

 

Thanks for reading, if you can make any sense out of my rambling. 

you probably know this but not total cores count the speed of each is what you need . a faster cpu with less cores is better then a slower one with more cores for java i mean. i would go with the xeon you can run just one on a Server board just have to buy the right board . some dont need two to run others do. and who doesn't need 1tb of ram just run a hdd and make a 20gb ramdisk for java to pig all over . for the ebay pairs i think you can just buy one cpu and have 2 then in your case, i think they just sell them in pairs so you know they will work together .

[Alexcalibur]

4 hours ago, ScratchCat said:

Also if you want the server in your room you don't want old server hardware. It is not designed to be quii7

A consumer type i5 2500k or i7 2600k will be able to run much quieter.

Dont need the overclocking so I probably wont get a K  but yea good idea

[Alexcalibur]

5 hours ago, ScratchCat said:

What is your current ram usage and server allocation

Currently it sits about 60-70% with 7Gb

Edited August 19, 2016 by IskanderEXC