Can a mobo cause gpu coil whine?

[IcEWoLF]

Posting here because I think you guys might have a better knowledge.

I have an ASUS Maximus Hero VIII and any video card I put on causes coil whine when under load. I tried 3 different brand PSU's.

I've tried 4 different graphics card (all 1080gtx) and all have the same coil whine. So my question is, can the mobo be the culprit? 

[GreezyJeezy]

sure

[ripper101]

5 minutes ago, IcEWoLF said:

Posting here because I think you guys might have a better knowledge.

I have an ASUS Maximus Hero VIII and any video card I put on causes coil whine when under load. I tried 3 different brand PSU's.

I've tried 4 different graphics card (all 1080gtx) and all have the same coil whine. So my question is, can the mobo be the culprit? 

um i'd say possibly but probably not

[IcEWoLF]

But what are the chances of getting 4 bad video cards that have coil whine? Just hard to believe it can be anything other than the mobo at this point.

Tried EVGA/Seasonic/ANTEC PSU, all producing the same results and the coil whine sounds pretty much the same between all video cards, thats why I drew the conclusion of being the mobo

[cpuwaiy]

Only way to find out is to buy another Mb and try.

Another thing to try is to turn the speaker volume lower and turn up volume on the computer

[rmurad38]

Could it be the motherboard itself that has the coil whine? I have a Gigabyte Z77X-D3H with an i7 2600k in my other rig and its always been very noisy in that regard. I know its the motherboard and not the graphics cards (its had several in its life) because nothing graphically intensive has to be going on, its related solely to CPU load. The power delivery components on a motherboard (all around the CPU socket) are very similar to whats found on a video card and can do the same thing.

[benga]

Here's a good read on coil whine, also Techquikie has a video on it too. 
https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/GeForce-GTX-970-Coil-Whine-Concerns

[The Flying Sloth]

1 minute ago, cpuwaiy said:

Another thing to try is to turn the speaker volume lower and turn up volume on the computer

Umm, he isn't complaining about static, he is complaining of hearing coil whine coming from the chassis of his PC, but sure, turning down the volume will fix a faulty MOBO won't it????????


And OP, I would put my money on the whine actually coming from your motherboard itself, one of my old systems did the same.  

[IcEWoLF]

31 minutes ago, The Flying Sloth said:

Umm, he isn't complaining about static, he is complaining of hearing coil whine coming from the chassis of his PC, but sure, turning down the volume will fix a faulty MOBO won't it????????


And OP, I would put my money on the whine actually coming from your motherboard itself, one of my old systems did the same.  

 

Okay, I just went to a friends house and took the card with me. The card did not make any coil whine on his system. Similar type of system, with the same mobo. So I gotta think at this point it has to be the motherboard and not the card. 

Such a pain to replace a mobo lol...and with ASUS RMA it would probably suck to get a replacement. 

[DrNeb]

Ah another with the same issue!

 

I have a Rog Hero VIII and have tried three different GTX1080's. This chap had the same issue too!

 

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?86451-Coil-whine-it-has-to-be-the-mobo-causing-it

 

RMAing this with Asus should be fun... I'd doubt they'd acknowledge this as a fault. 

[SLAYR]

20 minutes ago, DrNeb said:

Ah another with the same issue!

 

I have a Rog Hero VIII and have tried three different GTX1080's. This chap had the same issue too!

 

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?86451-Coil-whine-it-has-to-be-the-mobo-causing-it

 

RMAing this with Asus should be fun... I'd doubt they'd acknowledge this as a fault. 

No, coil whine is not a fault, it isn't intentional, but doesn't hurt performance, or really anything for that matter.

 

Most likely they will send the board back to you saying that there wasn't any issue with it.

[DrNeb]

On 8/22/2016 at 2:33 PM, SLAYR said:

No, coil whine is not a fault, it isn't intentional, but doesn't hurt performance, or really anything for that matter.

 

Most likely they will send the board back to you saying that there wasn't any issue with it.

With all due respect,  maybe you're satisfied with Coil whine. I am certainly not. Saying it isn't a fault when manufacturers go to great lengths using top quality and even cement core chokes to reduce it, is frankly ridiculous. On the same train of thought, making your card zero DB by turning the fans off at low temps, only to have the card (or motherboard in this case) squeal like a pig is counter intuitive. It doesn't hurt performance, correct, but it isn't and shouldn't be expected or accepted.  EVGA and other manufacturers will accept RMA for coil whine, so it would appear they agree. 

 

On 8/18/2016 at 11:21 PM, IcEWoLF said:

But what are the chances of getting 4 bad video cards that have coil whine? Just hard to believe it can be anything other than the mobo at this point.

Tried EVGA/Seasonic/ANTEC PSU, all producing the same results and the coil whine sounds pretty much the same between all video cards, thats why I drew the conclusion of being the mobo

For what its worth, I tried three power supplies, finally rested on my EVGA Supernova 850w P2. No better. Have had two gigabyte cards and now have an EVGA ftw. The same noise every time. After a fair bit of googling, we're not alone either. I will be approaching Asus tomorrow for the first round of begging and will report back. 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

28 minutes ago, DrNeb said:

With all due respect,  maybe you're satisfied with Coil whine. I am certainly not. Saying it isn't a fault when manufacturers go to great lengths using top quality and even cement core chokes to reduce it, is frankly ridiculous. On the same train of thought, making your card zero DB by turning the fans off at low temps, only to have the card (or motherboard in this case) squeal like a pig is counter intuitive. It doesn't hurt performance, correct, but it isn't and shouldn't be expected or accepted.  EVGA and other manufacturers will accept RMA for coil whine, so it would appear they agree. 

What really is ridiculous is to ask for a replacement of a product you don't like. When the replacement comes in, you will dislike it just the same.

 

If you are unhappy with the design and/or build quality by Asus on this one, you may try to get e refund on that basis and go for a different board, but the one you have is not malfunctioning (just like an FX cpu is not malfunctioning by having low single core performance, it's just what it is).

[The Flying Sloth]

On ‎23‎/‎08‎/‎2016 at 6:54 AM, SpaceGhostC2C said:

What really is ridiculous is to ask for a replacement of a product you don't like. When the replacement comes in, you will dislike it just the same.

 

If you are unhappy with the design and/or build quality by Asus on this one, you may try to get e refund on that basis and go for a different board, but the one you have is not malfunctioning (just like an FX cpu is not malfunctioning by having low single core performance, it's just what it is).

But it is widely know that FX cpu's have low single-core performance, it  is advertised as such. OP's MOBO didn't come with a db rating or warning and one would assume it would be free of defects (including coil whine) so yes, it is completely reasonable to obtain a replacement under warranty.

"What really is ridiculous is to ask for a replacement of a product you don't like"
What is ridiculous is that a manufacturer sold a  motherboard with a defect such as  this. Not all boards have whine and as such, this board would be an abnormality.

I don't know the location of the other posters on this topic but here in AUS we have Consumer laws that cover scenarios like this. You have the right to a replacement or a FULL CASH REFUND of any  product that is not fiit for purpose, was not what you wanted (you dislike) or breaks in an unreasonable period of time (reasonable  being directly related to the  price paid)

OP, go get that refund, it is due to you. the board is faulty.

[DrNeb]

9 hours ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

What really is ridiculous is to ask for a replacement of a product you don't like. When the replacement comes in, you will dislike it just the same.

 

If you are unhappy with the design and/or build quality by Asus on this one, you may try to get e refund on that basis and go for a different board, but the one you have is not malfunctioning (just like an FX cpu is not malfunctioning by having low single core performance, it's just what it is).

I like the product, but I must of missed "Crazy coil whine" on their marketing campaign when I bought it, as apparently you consider this a feature. 

 

Not everyone with these boards are experiencing the same thing. I love the board, it had everything I wanted, that isn't my issue. I don't think you grasp how loud this coil whine is. A replacement board might not have the issue. I'm quite amazed at these responses, you guys find this acceptable? I didn't spend a ton of money on high quality hi-fi separates only to have to listen to electric buzz when trying to enjoy something subtle like that new Abzu game. 

[IcEWoLF]

Unfortunately in the US I can't get a refund past 30 days. So now I have to deal with ASUS and their warranty....I was chatting with one of their reps the other day and they said for cross rma they need the board to be in stock, atm they asked to check back in 3-5 days....

I might end up going with a different board. Generally I like ASUS BIOS, far superior than Gigabyte and their stuff is less buggy, but at this point I have no choice to either go with Gigabyte or MSI...sucks because I've spent a pretty penny on this board, not cheap at all.

[The Flying Sloth]

You can still get a refund if it is under the Manufacturer Warrant, they are stuffing you around, tell them you want a refund or replacement.
https://www.usa.gov/consumer-complaints
http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=31356

 May help you here
 

21 hours ago, DrNeb said:

 

Preach

I've spent enough on my audio gear to know when something is wrong and when they tell you that your issue either isn't there or is your fault is just annoying. I've threatened to sue before and they usually replace it within a day, without complaint

[IcEWoLF]

Just to update everyone, I took the card at a local computer shop, no coil whine. I also took my PSU just to make sure it wasn't the PSU, no coil whine.

So other than the motherboard, It just doesn't make any sense anything else would cause the whine.

[The Flying Sloth]

We had already ascertained that it is the motherboard

[IcEWoLF]

Asus wants to do standard RMA instead of cross shipping, which means they will f*k me over and say there are no issues, I highly doubt they will do anything about replacing the card. The only way this would work is if they do cross shipment rma which at this point they are just giving me the excuse of none in stock and they can only offer a repair. There is no way they would be able to repair "coil whine"...

[DrNeb]

Yeah... this is what I am expecting also. 

 

I'm going to take the plunge and buy another motherboard and then take it up with Asus after... bah...disappointing. 

[IcEWoLF]

Also dealing with ASUS makes me puke...took them 3 days to reply to a support ticket...these guys are lazy bums...

[IcEWoLF]

Hi guys, just reporting back...I bought a 2nd ASUS ROG Mobo, same issue, coil whine is still apparent.

So at this point I doubt its the Mobo.

I've tried 4 different PSU's all 850w, I've tried running the system by default with no OC, same issue, I even went to my local best buy and picked up another 1080 GTX (FE) same issue, coil whine....

So out of all 5+ 1080 gtx cards I've tried they all had coil whine.

 

The only one that didn't have much coil whine was the MSI Gaming X, that card stayed quit in game, the only time it whined was during benchmarking.

 

I run a 1080p 144hz monitor. I dumbed down the refresh rate from 144hz to 60hz and the coil whine appeared to be less, but still very noticeable when playing games.

 

So, I guess I am SOL?

 

My only other choice is to sell my 1080 FTW card, and go back with the MSI Card....thats the only card that didn't whine like crazy.

I played wow and the whistle coil whine noise is horrible, when I move or do anything the coil whine goes up and down depending what I am looking at...its driving me nuts to say the least. Before the 1080 GTX I had a 980 Ti and no coil whine at all. I am very disappointed in how things worked out...at this point I am not really sure what else I can do.

 

So just to recap:

 

Tried 5+ 1080 GPU's, all but one had bad coil whine, MSI card not much whine during games.

Tried 4+ PSU's, all 850W, G2, P2, Antec, Seasonic. All reputable brands.

Tried 2 motherboards (same brand and model).

 

 

[DrNeb]

Damn.. that's bad news. 

 

I'm still going through the motions.. going to send my latest 1080 back for full testing, the others were just refunded as I was convinced it was the 1080 as my 970 SLI setup was silent.

 

Once I get confirmation about the card, I'm probably going to go another route entirely. It seems coil whine is something I need to prepare my rig for going forward.. a new case and louder fans!

 

<rant> Its bloody ridiculous though, all these companies striving to make everything as quiet as possible and allowing something like this. </rant>

[Sintezza]

Coilwine is allways present in electrical circuitries basicly.

Its just that sometimes with certain hardware its more audible then with others.

There isnt realy much you could do about it.