What does MORE ram help with?

[OnionRings]

Obviously more ram is better right? Well I only ever hear people say 8GB is enough, why? Why not more? Sure it can be expensive, but what exactly does ram help do? How much of a speed difference would 16GB compared to 32GB be?

[GreezyJeezy]

loading shit 

[AresKrieger]

2 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

Obviously more ram is better right? Well I only ever hear people say 8GB is enough, why? Why not more? Sure it can be expensive, but what exactly does ram help do? How much of a speed difference would 16GB compared to 32GB be?

nothing if you don't have programs that will use it, to little ram is a problem but anything extra doesn't really add performance

[OnionRings]

Just now, AresKrieger said:

nothing if you don't have programs that will use it, to little ram is a problem but anything extra doesn't really add performance

Ok well what programs benefit it? Does it help with video editing/rendering?

[Glenwing]

4 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

Obviously more ram is better right? Well I only ever hear people say 8GB is enough, why? Why not more? Sure it can be expensive, but what exactly does ram help do? How much of a speed difference would 16GB compared to 32GB be?

Video rendering, and similar things like 3D modeling.

 

RAM capacity doesn't speed anything up, it basically just prevents things from slowing down. If you run out of RAM, things slow down a lot. If you're not out of RAM, then things aren't being slowed down due to RAM shortage, and adding even more RAM won't do anything at all since it's already as un-slowed as it can get.

[OnionRings]

Just now, Glenwing said:

Video rendering, and similar things like 3D modeling.

 

RAM capacity doesn't speed anything up, it basically just prevents things from slowing down. If you run out of RAM, things slow down a lot. If you're not out of RAM, then things aren't being slowed down due to RAM shortage, then adding even more RAM won't do anything at all.

Ok that makes more sense then thank you. I was wondering if 32GB is necessary for 1080P editing/rendering or is 16GB enough?

[AresKrieger]

Just now, OnionRings said:

Ok well what programs benefit it? Does it help with video editing/rendering?

Yep quite a bit depending on the program used, video editing software tends to use a lot of memory if you plan to do that get at least 16gb

[themctipers]

chrome

 

i have 24gb and chrome easily eats 50% of it,

[OnionRings]

Just now, themctipers said:

chrome

 

i have 24gb and chrome easily eats 50% of it,

Serious or sarcastic?

[Glenwing]

1 minute ago, OnionRings said:

Ok that makes more sense then thank you. I was wondering if 32GB is necessary for 1080P editing/rendering or is 16GB enough?

I have maxed out 16 GB before with 1080p video, but it depends on the video a lot, I had four 1080p videos overlaid on each other so it was essentially equivalent to rendering at 4K. Upgrading to 24 GB was enough, it sat around 20 GB usage during the render (that was after closing chrome). Again it will depend a lot on the content of the render though.

[AresKrieger]

Just now, themctipers said:

chrome

 

i have 24gb and chrome easily eats 50% of it,

Yes but how many tabs do you have open 200?

[Mira Yurizaki]

5 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

Obviously more ram is better right? Well I only ever hear people say 8GB is enough, why? Why not more? Sure it can be expensive, but what exactly does ram help do? How much of a speed difference would 16GB compared to 32GB be?

RAM is where immediate data of programs live. More RAM is only useful if you are running programs that need it. If you are only using say 8GB at most, then adding more RAM isn't going to do much because unused RAM is wasted RAM.

 

To put in another way, it's like saying having 2TB of hard drive space is beneficial over 1TB, even though you only use at most 800GB. Having empty hard drive space doesn't really do much for performance.

[OnionRings]

Just now, Glenwing said:

I have maxed out 16 GB before with 1080p video, but it depends on the video a lot, I had four 1080p videos overlaid on each other so it was essentially equivalent to rendering at 4K. Upgrading to 24 GB was enough, it sat around 20 GB usage during the render (that was after closing chrome). Again it will depend a lot on the content of the render though.

Thank you, I think 16GB will be fine for me then as I mostly at max only ever do 1080P, not overlapping either. I just do game plays for my YouTube channel so the most editing I do is adding text or cutting out, pasting, stuff like that.

[OnionRings]

1 minute ago, AresKrieger said:

Yes but how many tabs do you have open 200?

I am using about half my RAM right now but idk what all is using it, task manager says 4.2 is available of my 8GB and with 4 chrome tabs open 1 playing 1080P video on youtube I am using 46%

[Mira Yurizaki]

4 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

I am using about half my RAM right now but idk what all is using it, task manager says 4.2 is available of my 8GB and with 4 chrome tabs open 1 playing 1080P video on youtube I am using 46%

You don't need more. In fact, even if you start spiking close to it, you don't "need" more until you start experiencing a ton of page file swapping (or your storage drive access goes through the roof). Although at that point, I would see if closing things helps first. If say I started up Windows and it was already thrashing the storage device, then yeah, that would be a red flag for needing more RAM.

 

The closer you are to 100% usage without page file swapping, the better you're using your RAM, as strange as this sounds.

[OnionRings]

Dang lol http://prntscr.com/c7kanq chrome IS eating it.

[themctipers]

10 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

Serious or sarcastic?

serious

10 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

Yes but how many tabs do you have open 200?

3 windows full of tabs

 

[pyrojoe34]

3D rendering (like After Effects), VMs, servers with many simultaneous users, and computational work.

 

I'm actually running into issue with my 32GB not being enough when running some basic machine learning algorithms (random forests via R) on large datasets where it stores the data and models in RAM in order to keep the already really long processing time from being bottlenecked by an SSD/HDD.

[OnionRings]

18 hours ago, themctipers said:

serious

3 windows full of tabs

 

I saw what you mean when I checked my own task manager. I guess I should get 128GB of DDR4 and over clock it to 3600 MHz just to be on the safe side.

[themctipers]

5 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

I saw what you mean when I checked my own task manager. I guess I should get 128GB of DDR4 and over clock it to 3600 MHz just to be on the safe side.

Lol

i have 24gb of ram at 1333

[Macks]

20 hours ago, themctipers said:

chrome

 

i have 24gb and chrome easily eats 50% of it,

How many tabs do you have open man!?

[FPS-Russia]

Maya.

[themctipers]

Just now, Macks said:

How many tabs do you have open man!?

All my porn tabs, ltt, bit of YouTube, lots of Reddit, lots of /r/jailbreak

 

i don't know how to use bookmarks

[t33to]

20 hours ago, OnionRings said:

Obviously more ram is better right? Well I only ever hear people say 8GB is enough, why? Why not more? Sure it can be expensive, but what exactly does ram help do? How much of a speed difference would 16GB compared to 32GB be?

You need 64GB of ram to run 64 Chrome tabs.

 

/joking

[OnionRings]

Btw I was obviously joking about 128GB of ram, that would never be necessary for me, at max 36 32 but I doubt I need even that much.

Edited August 20, 2016 by OnionRings
Can't math