Upgrade my 2500k or my GTX 760

[notsteven]

My Build
i5 2500k (NO OVERCLOCK AND NEVER WILL)

GTX 760

 

Should I upgrade my cpu or gpu? An i5 6600k or a GTX 1070, where will I get the most performance?

Will there ever be a circumstance where an 6600k with a GTX 760 will have more FPS(in any game) than a i5 2500k with a GTX 1070

[Beeeyeee]

well if you overclocked that 2500k than upgrade the 760 honestly. Why won't you overclock? you can even do it without manipulating voltage at all, just up the clock a little.

 

the CPU is still good for now. and why get a 6600k if you won't overclock that either? get a 6600.

[notsteven]

This is for a purpose of an argument. I want to keep it pound for pound.

[MrSpeed]

1070

[Skiiwee29]

I would upgrade your platform from 2500k to atleast a 6600k. Newer graphics cards on newer titles will be bottlenecked by your 2500k. Upgrade this first then your GPU after. 

[Beeeyeee]

Just now, legacy99 said:

I would upgrade your platform from 2500k to atleast a 6600k. Newer graphics cards on newer titles will be bottlenecked by your 2500k. Upgrade this first then your GPU after. 

no they won't honestly  any quad core chip even one that old will be able to handle these new cards just fine unless you're going for 144htz gaming man.stop using the word bottleneck.

[notsteven]

1 minute ago, legacy99 said:

I would upgrade your platform from 2500k to atleast a 6600k. Newer graphics cards on newer titles will be bottlenecked by your 2500k. Upgrade this first then your GPU after. 

Lets say I can only upgrade one, which will give me the biggest performance upgrade?

[Beeeyeee]

Just now, notsteven said:

Lets say I can only upgrade one, which will give me the biggest performance upgrade?

the GPU for sure.

[Skiiwee29]

Just now, notsteven said:

Lets say I can only upgrade one, which will give me the biggest performance upgrade?

well with the 2500k and being a P67/Z77 chipset, if your board can support it, try and get an i7 3770k.

[notsteven]

Just now, legacy99 said:

well with the 2500k and being a P67/Z77 chipset, if your board can support it, try and get an i7 3770k.

Keep in mind this is just for gaming purposes.

Just to clarify, you're telling me that an i7 3770k with a GTX 760 will get more FPS in games than a i5 2500k with a 1070?

[Skiiwee29]

If you have an 144hz monitor, then yes as you will run into a bottleneck on your CPU with a 1070, I had it happen to me on my 4690k with my 1070. If your running a 60hz monitor, then the 1070 would be the ideal upgrade to boost frames and should have no bottleneck. 

[thekeemo]

I would say time for an overhaul

[Pauleh]

4 minutes ago, thekeemo said:

I would say time for an overhaul

Why do people act like people with budget systems are always "in need for a overhaul". Some people can't just shit out a 6700k and a 1080, sorry. You should probably see what their budget is first and you should see what works for them. I personally think that there is no need for an overhaul. The 2500K is a very good CPU for most tasks except for editing and 4k gaming.

[Belgarathian]

24 minutes ago, notsteven said:

Keep in mind this is just for gaming purposes.

Just to clarify, you're telling me that an i7 3770k with a GTX 760 will get more FPS in games than a i5 2500k with a 1070?

No, it really won't. 

 

Go for the 1070. Depending on the games you play, the i5 may be a bottlekneck but you'd be far better off upgrading the GPU at this point over the CPU particularly if you're planning to play at higher resolutions or with higher texture details. 

[thekeemo]

1 hour ago, Pauleh said:

Why do people act like people with budget systems are always "in need for a overhaul". Some people can't just shit out a 6700k and a 1080, sorry. You should probably see what their budget is first and you should see what works for them. I personally think that there is no need for an overhaul. The 2500K is a very good CPU for most tasks except for editing and 4k gaming.

other way around

the lower the res the higher the CPU:GPU ratio 

here is the problem

the 2500k would bottleneck a GPU upgrade

the 760 would bottleneck a CPU upgrade

[Pauleh]

23 minutes ago, notsteven said:

Keep in mind this is just for gaming purposes.

Just to clarify, you're telling me that an i7 3770k with a GTX 760 will get more FPS in games than a i5 2500k with a 1070?

To get the best bang for your buck get the 1070. The 2500K won't be (too) much of a bottleneck, but you should look into upgrading it to a 3770K later down the line (a year or so) if you wish to keep your system going for as long as possible.

[Pauleh]

1 minute ago, thekeemo said:

other way around

the lower the res the higher the CPU:GPU ratio 

here is the problem

the 2500k would bottleneck a GPU upgrade

the 760 would bottleneck a CPU upgrade

There will always be a bottleneck in a system, just depends how much you are willing to sacrifice on one end or the other. And you are right on the 4k gaming thing (I forgot). Even still tho, the CPU won't SEVERELY bottleneck the card in 1080P gaming, I say no more than 20 FPS max in triple A titles, and even if it is more the system is more than capable to push enough frames to make it not dip below 60fps on max settings.

[thekeemo]

1 hour ago, Pauleh said:

There will always be a bottleneck in a system, just depends how much you are willing to sacrifice on one end or the other. And you are right on the 4k gaming thing (I forgot). Even still tho, the CPU won't SEVERELY bottleneck the card in 1080P gaming, I say no more than 20 FPS max in triple A titles, and even if it is more the system is more than capable to push enough frames to make it not dip below 60fps on max settings.

20 fps is significant

which is why my recommendation is to hold off until he can get both at the same time that way the bottlenecks are not as severe and prices have gone down resulting in a better result than if he had done them seperately

[Pauleh]

1 minute ago, thekeemo said:

20 fps is significant

which is why my recommendation is to hold off until he can get both at the same time that way the bottlenecks are not as severe and prices have gone down resulting in a better result than if he had done them seperately

I highly disagree.

[notsteven]

2 minutes ago, thekeemo said:

20 fps is significant

which is why my recommendation is to hold off until he can get both at the same time that way the bottlenecks are not as severe and prices have gone down

This was just to settle a debate,
So don't think of the bigger picture, just think about if I had to upgrade one part, where can I milk the most performance?

[thekeemo]

1 hour ago, Pauleh said:

I highly disagree.

Maybe I should clarify

6600k upgrade now (cpu motherboard ram cooler) ~$420

1070 upgrade now ~$420

 

if he upgrades to a 1070 it will be able to perform ~85% capacity and will end up spending $840 to get 100%

 

if he waits till he has the $840 at which point we can assume the prices will drop a bit resulting in him needing to pay ~$780 for the upgrade (1070 at msrp and ram goes down a bit)

1 hour ago, notsteven said:

This was just to settle a debate,
So don't think of the bigger picture, just think about if I had to upgrade one part, where can I milk the most performance?

GPU unless you are playing source games mostly

85% of a 1060 is way better than 100% of a 760

[Pauleh]

3 minutes ago, thekeemo said:

9 minutes ago, notsteven said:

This was just to settle a debate,
So don't think of the bigger picture, just think about if I had to upgrade one part, where can I milk the most performance?

GPU unless you are playing source games mostly

85% of a 1060 is way better than 100% of a 760

You just proved my point.

[thekeemo]

1 hour ago, Pauleh said:

You just proved my point.

how?

im saying its more cost effective if he gets it all at once

[Pauleh]

5 minutes ago, thekeemo said:

how?

im saying its more cost effective if he gets it all at once

No. if you will get 85% of performance for 400$ and 100% for twice the price. You are saying to double the cost on a 15% increase. For someone who says they want to get the most of their money just the GPU will be fine for now, but OP can upgrade later. It's not like the GPU can't be put into another mobo down the road.

[thekeemo]

1 hour ago, Pauleh said:

No. if you will get 85% of performance for 400$ and 100% for twice the price. You are saying to double the cost on a 15% increase. For someone who says they want to get the most of their money just the GPU will be fine for now, but OP can upgrade later. It's not like the GPU can be put into another mobo down the road.

From what I understood

OP is doing both upgrades

but not at the same time and was asking which to do first