Graphics upgrade...

[CrackheadKyle]

Ok so I am currently in the loop of PC gaming after spending the last 5 weeks on vacation and doing summer activities out of town

Anyways after the WORST spirit flight ever getting home (don't use 'em you barely save any money and get a if lucky mediocre flight, well to be fair all flight you haven't spent a college savings on is below decent so try to avoid cheap flights I guess) but I am CONSIDERING an upgrade due to some money I've recently gotten (Spirit fucked up my suitcase and because I have a backup that was some nice $50 even though I got the suitcase originally for $80) and I have to opportunity to sell my dusty, useful for shit (PC Master Race) XBONE stuff for considering the console, controller, and 10 games I think I can snag $400 on ebay but anyways before I do so I need a plan... and with the sudden just war in the graphics industry I was wondering what should I do?.... What I want is to be able to play 1080p at easily 60 FPS or better with Ultra settings, I currently have a GTX 970 and I can accomplish High to Ultra Settings in Modern AAA games at 60 FPS but I also want my graphics not to choke up overnight If I upgrade to 1440p or if AAA games starts ramming graphics cards MUCH harder.

 

Option 1: Keep the GTX 970, just buy the standard AAA game when they come and save up the money

 

Option 2: Sell the Xbox Stuff and buy a GTX 1070 (either founders or snag a few more bucks for a third party card)

 

Option 3: Save up for a GTX 1080 (Bare in mind those go as high as borderline $1000)

 

Option 4: Suggest a card that I should save up for or buy after selling the Xbox stuff (Maybe something from team red I should invest in?)

 

Option 5: Custom

  

[GDRRiley]

go with 3 and sell your GTX 970 or wait till this fall for AMD new high end cards.

[Techicolors]

sounds like option 2 is the best choice. the upcoming 1060 or the now-out 480 are a bit side-grades compared to your 970. but bear in mind that the 1070 can do more than 1060p60fps 

 

edit: but to be on the safe side wait until 1060 benchmarks come out

[CrackheadKyle]

3 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

go with 3 and sell your GTX 970 or wait till this fall for AMD new high end cards.

interesting, a 1080 will give me MORE than requested graphics but it WILL stand the test of time and be able to do 1440p at a moment's notice

[GDRRiley]

2 minutes ago, Savageiste said:

interesting, a 1080 will give me MORE than requested graphics but it WILL stand the test of time and be able to do 1440p at a moment's notice

sorry meant to say 2 not 3 was not paying attention 

[CrackheadKyle]

Yeah sounding like I should see the 1060 benchmarks. Cheap card but I can already tell It will perform well

[Rune]

Where in Texas does a 1080 cost almost a $1000? My store sells them for $679 and up.

[Coaxialgamer]

2 minutes ago, Savageiste said:

Yeah sounding like I should see the 1060 benchmarks. Cheap card but I can already tell It will perform well

based on an educated guess , i would predict the 1060 to be around the 970 in terms of performance .

[CrackheadKyle]

1 minute ago, Rune said:

Where in Texas does a 1080 cost almost a $1000? My store sells them for $679 and up.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GeForce-GTX-1080/dp/B01GLYD7MG/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1468186463&sr=1-5&keywords=gtx+1080 

 

I do have a Fry's and a Best Buy near my town so maybe I should see their prices but I generally shop online

[Techicolors]

1 minute ago, Coaxialgamer said:

based on an educated guess , i would predict the 1060 to be around the 970 in terms of performance .

nvidia claims the 1060 will be around 980 performance. only way to verify that is wait for benchmarks 

[GDRRiley]

3 minutes ago, Savageiste said:

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GeForce-GTX-1080/dp/B01GLYD7MG/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1468186463&sr=1-5&keywords=gtx+1080 

 

I do have a Fry's and a Best Buy near my town so maybe I should see their prices but I generally shop online

the is 1 non reference card there for 840. 

[CrackheadKyle]

1 minute ago, Coaxialgamer said:

based on an educated guess , i would predict the 1060 to be around the 970 in terms of performance .

ok so look more towards 1070 but the RX 480 from AMD which is only $200 scores around or slightly better than GTX 970 so a GTX 1060 that would score too close to the 970 would be a disaster for Nvidia unless if the price is below $200 which I doubt considering Nvidia will probably come with a 1050

[Rune]

1 minute ago, Savageiste said:

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GeForce-GTX-1080/dp/B01GLYD7MG/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1468186463&sr=1-5&keywords=gtx+1080 

 

I do have a Fry's and a Best Buy near my town so maybe I should see their prices but I generally shop online

Don't let them fleece you. Check out the Dallas Microcenter (link) and save yourself a lot of money and trouble. Ask when the next truck comes in and they'd be more than happy to help you.

[MadyTehWolfie]

14 minutes ago, Savageiste said:

Ok so I am currently in the loop of PC gaming after spending the last 5 weeks on vacation and doing summer activities out of town

Anyways after the WORST spirit flight ever getting home (don't use 'em you barely save any money and get a if lucky mediocre flight, well to be fair all flight you haven't spent a college savings on is below decent so try to avoid cheap flights I guess) but I am CONSIDERING an upgrade due to some money I've recently gotten (Spirit fucked up my suitcase and because I have a backup that was some nice $50 even though I got the suitcase originally for $80) and I have to opportunity to sell my dusty, useful for shit (PC Master Race) XBONE stuff for considering the console, controller, and 10 games I think I can snag $400 on ebay but anyways before I do so I need a plan... and with the sudden just war in the graphics industry I was wondering what should I do?.... What I want is to be able to play 1080p at easily 60 FPS or better with Ultra settings, I currently have a GTX 970 and I can accomplish High to Ultra Settings in Modern AAA games at 60 FPS but I also want my graphics not to choke up overnight If I upgrade to 1440p or if AAA games starts ramming graphics cards MUCH harder.

 

Option 1: Keep the GTX 970, just buy the standard AAA game when they come and save up the money

 

Option 2: Sell the Xbox Stuff and buy a GTX 1070 (either founders or snag a few more bucks for a third party card)

 

Option 3: Save up for a GTX 1080 (Bare in mind those go as high as borderline $1000)

 

Option 4: Suggest a card that I should save up for or buy after selling the Xbox stuff (Maybe something from team red I should invest in?)

 

Option 5: Custom

  

You have to stop looking at prices from scalpers they dont go over 700usd in the us, just be patient and buy a 1080 when they come back in stock.

[Coaxialgamer]

1 minute ago, Technicolors said:

nvidia claims the 1060 will be around 980 performance. only way to verify that is wait for benchmarks 

yes , considering it's only a week until NDA lift

[Grubite]

If your goal is 1440p and nothing more either keep the 970 or upgrade to the 1070 I would recommend upgrading but either way works, but if you want 4K then get a GTX 1080, I just got mine yesterday and it plays DOOM at 4K Ultra 60fps easy, infact as a torture test I ran DOOM at 8K Ultra on my single GTX 1080, (Yes, 7680x4320!) and somehow still got 20fps at ultra! In my opinion, if you want a REAL future proofed card, get a 1080.

[Techicolors]

3 minutes ago, Savageiste said:

ok so look more towards 1070 but the RX 480 from AMD which is only $200 scores around or slightly better than GTX 970 so a GTX 1060 that would score too close to the 970 would be a disaster for Nvidia unless if the price is below $200 which I doubt considering Nvidia will probably come with a 1050

the 1060 is priced at around $250 msrp. custom boards are priced higher. 

[CrackheadKyle]

2 minutes ago, Grubite said:

If your goal is 1440p and nothing more either keep the 970 or upgrade to the 1070 I would recommend upgrading but either way works, but if you want 4K then get a GTX 1080, I just got mine yesterday and it plays DOOM at 4K Ultra 60fps easy, infact as a torture test I ran DOOM at 8K Ultra on my single GTX 1080, (Yes, 7680x4320!) and somehow still got 20fps at ultra! In my opinion, if you want a REAL future proofed card, get a 1080.

I think 1080 is overkill because it is going to be a couple years before I go up to 4k (and by then 8k may probably be a thing) but 1070 will assure me 1440p for a while. Look's like I should wait till everyone actually has 1070 stock then because I don't think they're designed for some to be nearly $800 all the time 

[Coaxialgamer]

3 minutes ago, Savageiste said:

ok so look more towards 1070 but the RX 480 from AMD which is only $200 scores around or slightly better than GTX 970 so a GTX 1060 that would score too close to the 970 would be a disaster for Nvidia unless if the price is below $200 which I doubt considering Nvidia will probably come with a 1050

what i did is compare clocks and FLOPS of maxwell vs pascal and compare cycles per second , taking into account the slight IPC decrease in pascal .  Pascal is basically maxwell on 16nm finfet, with a longer pipeline .What i found is that the 1060 should perform at about 970 level . But I may be wrong . And nvidia might slow down the 980 to make the 1060 faster than it

[CrackheadKyle]

3 minutes ago, Technicolors said:

the 1060 is priced at around $250 msrp. custom boards are priced higher. 

hmm who knows seems as though it will perform well enough for me though

[CrackheadKyle]

2 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

what i did is compare clocks and FLOPS of maxwell vs pascal and compare cycles per second , taking into account the slight IPC decrease in pascal .  Pascal is basically maxwell on 16nm finfet, with a longer pipeline .What i found is that the 1060 should perform at about 970 level . But I may be wrong . And nvidia might slow down the 980 to make the 1060 faster than it

ok, ok 

[CrackheadKyle]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127946

 

y'all weren't kidding half the price on newegg compard to amazon

[Grubite]

7 minutes ago, Savageiste said:

I think 1080 is overkill because it is going to be a couple years before I go up to 4k (and by then 8k may probably be a thing) but 1070 will assure me 1440p for a while. Look's like I should wait till everyone actually has 1070 stock then because I don't think they're designed for some to be nearly $800 all the time 

As I said, a 970 is fine for 1440p, but a 1070 will definitely future proof it.

[CrackheadKyle]

UPDATE: After a nice Italian dinner I have decided to get the GTX 1070 Founder's now (and it is expected to come 7/15 to 7/20 and no I don't have prime or will spend money on shipping) and my Xbox stuff and my old 750ti is being sold to a local computer and gaming shop (My friend's dad own's it and payed me MUCH more for 'em). also Grubite my computer also has a 4790k and is water cooled via corsair h100i v2 lol if only I had 1080 money... and need