Can i do this?

[monkanowski]

i have a Dell Optiplex 960 Core 2 Duo 8GB DDR2(lol) running a Radeon HD 5450 512MB. So what i want to do is upgrade the video card but am not sure how to go about it since i cant use the motherboard in another case and its the SFF model i could use a PCI-e extension cable and hook up to a PCI-e rise and make a few mods to the case. See the thing is im running two hard drives in this and im only running a 250W power supply can and will i have to upgrade my power supply but not have it plugged into the system just jump the pins and only have the video card plugged in? All this will look horrible but my games will look better and more playable! 

 

Here are some links to what i am talking about and the video card i might think about getting:http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-Express-PCI-E-16X-Riser-Card-Flex-Flexible-Ribbon-Extender-Extension-Cable-/310487210028?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484a7ad82c

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-EXPRESS-16X-RISER-CARD-LEFT-Slot-Adapter-Star-Empery-PT319-/151129281502?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233001d3de

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121656

[target39]

It should work, but if I were you, I would only use one extender(flexible) so the latency isn't slowed down as much. Make sure the GPU won't be bottlenecked by the system though.

[monkanowski]

It should work, but if I were you, I would only use one extender(flexible) so the latency isn't slowed down as much. Make sure the GPU won't be bottlenecked by the system though.

so you saying since im only a dual core i should think of a lesser graphics card? only games i play are League of Legends and Minecraft but i would like to be able to play Battlefield 3 and 4 when it comes out.

[WoodenMarker]

so you saying since im only a dual core i should think of a lesser graphics card? only games i play are League of Legends and Minecraft but i would like to be able to play Battlefield 3 and 4 when it comes out.

You'd want a better cpu for BF3/4. Also, a 250w psu will not be enough for a 660 Ti. 

You're looking at a near full system upgrade here.

[ologiic]

That card isn't gonna run off that powersupply.

[monkanowski]

You'd want a better cpu for BF3/4. Also, a 250w psu will not be enough for a 660 Ti. 

You're looking at a near full system upgrade anything you could suggest with 800(more if i can sell this system) bucks? and i could use my current drives untill later.

[monkanowski]

That card isn't gonna run off that powersupply.

that is why i suggested i use a sepperate PSU and have the 24 pin jumped and used it excluseivly for the graphics card.

[WoodenMarker]

 anything you could suggest with 800(more if i can sell this system) bucks? and i could use my current drives untill later.

$800 is plenty for quite a hefty system/upgrade: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1JoW1

Crossfire ready. I'm assuming you're using your old hdd's.

[monkanowski]

$800 is plenty for quite a hefty system/upgrade: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1JoW1

Crossfire ready. I'm assuming you're using your old hdd's.

alright that seems legit i like that and gives a little room for improvment down the line. Now is that one of AMD's newer cpus? What would i be able to compare it to from the Intels..FX8320

[WoodenMarker]

alright that seems legit i like that and gives a little room for improvment down the line. Now is that one of AMD's newer cpus? What would i be able to compare it to from the Intels..FX8320

It's basically a lower binned version of AMD's best cpu. It will be plenty for gaming and compares to intel's i5.

[target39]

It's basically a lower binned version of AMD's best cpu. It will be plenty for gaming and compares to intel's i5.

Might as well get one of the better 990FX boards.

[target39]

alright that seems legit i like that and gives a little room for improvment down the line. Now is that one of AMD's newer cpus? What would i be able to compare it to from the Intels..FX8320

Gaming wise, it's comparable to the I5-3570K. If you overclock it to 4.5+GHZ, you'll get even better performance. The 7950, on the other hand, can run Battlefield 3 on Ultra @1080p and produce about 60fps. BF4 shouldn't be too much different. Also, if you're going to get a 7950, get one that overclocks well, like the Gigabyte Windforce version, or the Sapphire Vapor X. If you overclock both the CPU and GPU, you should see performance increases of 10-25%.

[zeros]

$800 is plenty for quite a hefty system/upgrade: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1JoW1

Crossfire ready. I'm assuming you're using your old hdd's.

I agree with all of these components, well chosed @WoodenMarker

 

As you were already suggested you should build a new system, BF3 and BF4 I'm 90% sure that it will not run on that old CPU.

[monkanowski]

well that is the thing i dont really have the income to build right now...long story short i cant prove that i am a US citizen so nobody will hire me without an ID or Social card can't get either one without proof so in the mean time while I'm waiting i just want a better graphics card than what i have are there any better low profile cards that DO NOT require a 6 or 8 pin connector?

 

EDIT: I always do this i ask questions and then do my research but i checked out the lower end card that amd just put out and here is a link http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r7&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

now seeing that these are pcie 3.0 my mobo is 2.0 as far as i know 3.0 is compatible with 2.0 my question is how bad if any will the performance hit be even though my cpu doesn't support 3.0

[WoodenMarker]

well that is the thing i dont really have the income to build right now...long story short i cant prove that i am a US citizen so nobody will hire me without an ID or Social card can't get either one without proof so in the mean time while I'm waiting i just want a better graphics card than what i have are there any better low profile cards that DO NOT require a 6 or 8 pin connector?

 

EDIT: I always do this i ask questions and then do my research but i checked out the lower end card that amd just put out and here is a link http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r7&N=-1&isNodeId=1

now seeing that these are pcie 3.0 my mobo is 2.0 as far as i know 3.0 is compatible with 2.0 my question is how bad if any will the performance hit be even though my cpu doesn't support 3.0

A 7750 would be the best low profile card you can get.

The 240 is terrible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sph6cjJeRdI

Pci-e 2.0 won't bottleneck anything. Gpus have yet to saturate it completely. 

 

You need to quote a post or tag a member or else they won't get a notification you replied to them.

[monkanowski]

A 7750 would be the best low profile card you can get.

The 240 is terrible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sph6cjJeRdI

Pci-e 2.0 won't bottleneck anything. Gpus have yet to saturate it completely. 

 

You need to quote a post or tag a member or else they won't get a notification you replied to them.

alright i went and checked a few out this one seems decent but what about my power supply it says i need a min of 400 and i believe i have a 255Watt

[WoodenMarker]

alright i went and checked a few out this one seems decent but what about my power supply it says i need a min of 400 and i believe i have a 255Watt

Possibly. I've read about others who have done it but it depends on your psu. See if it works. 

[FireFox]

You can put in a Radeon HD 6570 I think, I'm sure there is a low profile version but your problem will be the PSU, I was considering buying one of those a few years ago and I think they come with a 200w cheap generic PSU.

 

I personally wouldn't bother mate, save a little money and buy a better used PC.

[cafe]

I wouldn't ever get a binned cpu

I would just go for an 8350

[monkanowski]

Possibly. I've read about others who have done it but it depends on your psu. See if it works. 

now in about 6-8 months i should have around $1000 saved up what would be a good start on my first build, i took the build suggested above and changed a few things like cpu and case i really want that case but any will do as long as i can put a h100 in it later on http://pcpartpicker.com/user/monkanowski/saved/2uss but if you have anything in mind that would have better performance for around the same price range and i am a little sketchy about AMD cpus i tend to favor Intel more

[WoodenMarker]

now in about 6-8 months i should have around $1000 saved up what would be a good start on my first build, i took the build suggested above and changed a few things like cpu and case i really want that case but any will do as long as i can put a h100 in it later on http://pcpartpicker.com/user/monkanowski/saved/2uss but if you have anything in mind that would have better performance for around the same price range and i am a little sketchy about AMD cpus i tend to favor Intel more

Nothing sketchy about AMD cpus. It's not worth paying more for the higher binned 8350 and a h100i just for gaming. You're paying a lot for parts that don't help much for performance. 

[cafe]

Nothing sketchy about AMD cpus. It's not worth paying more for the higher binned 8350 and a h100i just for gaming. You're paying a lot for parts that don't help much for performance. 

do you even realize how fast gaming is changing compared to 2007-2009? I think its worth the higher 8350

[cafe]

now in about 6-8 months i should have around $1000 saved up what would be a good start on my first build, i took the build suggested above and changed a few things like cpu and case i really want that case but any will do as long as i can put a h100 in it later on http://pcpartpicker.com/user/monkanowski/saved/2uss but if you have anything in mind that would have better performance for around the same price range and i am a little sketchy about AMD cpus i tend to favor Intel more

lol if your budget will be $1k go up to a 7970

the 7900's are dirt cheap right now

[monkanowski]

Nothing sketchy about AMD cpus. It's not worth paying more for the higher binned 8350 and a h100i just for gaming. You're paying a lot for parts that don't help much for performance.

 

well the price difference isn't much at all around 40 bucks and to be honest the only games i really play are League of Legends and Minecraft BF3 or 4 would just be a nice thing to be able to play....ive tried on my current setup just isn't going to happen but i love it 

[cafe]

and amd builds are fun because ram speeds make more of a difference in them

so I would use this ram kit 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32133c9d8gxl