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I'm by no means an "overclocker", I don't care for chasing voltages or anything of that sort. I've only raised the multiplier and left everything else stock besides XMP and I've been debating whether to just reset the overclock altogether. My 6600K runs at 3.5 GHz stock and the furthest I've cared to go is 4.2 GHz. My ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming motherboard handles all voltages by itself through "auto" options.

 

Are there any real/noticeable performance gains for my small overclock or am I better off resetting it? Again, I don't care for chasing voltages and all that jazz.

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OCing the CPU makes windows much much more snappy. OCing is easy now days you can just hit a button and slide a dial. If you want to actually learn something and make the OC higher and stable and more efficient then read a short guide on the forum on what to do. I would also OC you GPU. It is all free performance and don't worry about killing stuff

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

OCing the CPU makes windows much much more snappy. OCing is easy now days you can just hit a button and slide a dial. If you want to actually learn something and make the OC higher and stable and more efficient then read a short guide on the forum on what to do. I would also OC you GPU. It is all free performance and don't worry about killing stuff

im not sure about it making windows more snappy but i guess that would depend on the cpu but it will make stuff like rendering videos faster and you will get higher fps in some games

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1 minute ago, spartaman64 said:

im not sure about it making windows more snappy but i guess that would depend on the cpu but it will make stuff like rendering videos faster and you will get higher fps in some games

Well my 4670K made it faster

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

OCing the CPU makes windows much much more snappy. OCing is easy now days you can just hit a button and slide a dial. If you want to actually learn something and make the OC higher and stable and more efficient then read a short guide on the forum on what to do. I would also OC you GPU. It is all free performance and don't worry about killing stuff

 

That's the thing, I don't care to learn because I don't care to be too involved. That's the reason I went with such a mild OC (x42). It's all stable right now, with everything else on auto. 

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1 minute ago, Preston Garvey said:

 

That's the thing, I don't care to learn because I don't care to be too involved. That's the reason I went with such a mild OC (x42). It's all stable right now, with everything else on auto. 

You should care to learn. It is the key to a successful future

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The reason I'm thinking about reverting it because I don't feel like messing with voltages just to get it to a "good" level.

 

Auto voltage (+auto LLC and auto SVID) feeds 1.312V @ 4.2 at max load according to AIDA64 Extreme. Sounds a bit high, I know.

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Well my 4670K made it faster

really? because my cpu stays clocked at around 800-900mhz when not running anything intensive but i guess if you have a lot of background tasks running

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2 minutes ago, Preston Garvey said:

The reason I'm thinking about reverting it because I don't feel like messing with voltages just to get it to a "good" level.

 

Auto voltage (+auto LLC and auto SVID) feeds 1.312V @ 4.2 at max load according to AIDA64 Extreme. Sounds a bit high, I know.

if temperatures are fine might as well keep the small overclock you did

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5 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

if temperatures are fine might as well keep the small overclock you did

My H100i keeps temps around 26-30c idle and around the 50-60c mark at full load it seems (with 10 minutes of AIDA64 testing... I'm sure it'd go higher with several hours at full load).

 

1.264V seems to be the idling voltage. 1.312V at full load with initial AIDA64 testing. 

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Well, 700mhz is a 20% OC. Synthetics tend to go up a bit, and your minimum FPS might increase. If your CPU was bottle-necking your GPU, you'd get pretty sizeable FPS gains. Probably 5-10 fps for a 20% OC.

 

With GPU, it's about the same I guess. The stock clock of my GPU was 800mhz, but I can raise it to 1050mhz which is a 31% increase on core clock alone.

 

So OCing can give you a bit of wiggle room and make previously unplayable games playable. There isn't much point in running a 24/7 OC if you're only going to be utilizing it 5% of the time though.

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14 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

really? because my cpu stays clocked at around 800-900mhz when not running anything intensive but i guess if you have a lot of background tasks running

Yeah multi tasking. It could also be because I turned XMP and OCed my RAM a bit

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16 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

really? because my cpu stays clocked at around 800-900mhz when not running anything intensive but i guess if you have a lot of background tasks running

If you turn of C6, speed stepping, and enable HPC, your clocks will stay at their maximum speed even at idle.

 

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2 minutes ago, SageOfSpice said:

If you turn of C6, speed stepping, and enable HPC, your clocks will stay at their maximum speed even at idle.

 

yes but overkill at desktop and really little performance gain for a increase in power consumption

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One part of what makes me not feeling like learning is that there are a million settings all relating to overclocking. 

 

If if I were to set a manual clock, there'd also be an issue with LLC and SVID which are also on auto. Then VCCIO and all other settings which are also, surprise surprise, on auto.

 

It's just too much.

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4 minutes ago, Preston Garvey said:

One part of what makes me not feeling like learning is that there are a million settings all relating to overclocking. 

 

If if I were to set a manual clock, there'd also be an issue with LLC and SVID which are also on auto. Then VCCIO and all other settings which are also, surprise surprise, on auto.

 

It's just too much.

It nowhere near as difficult as you're making it out to be. You don't need to touch half that crap.

 

The only things you need to concern yourself with are BCLK, Multiplier, Vcore, and Ram frequency.

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6 minutes ago, SageOfSpice said:

It nowhere near as difficult as you're making it out to be. You don't need to touch half that crap.

 

The only things you need to concern yourself with are BCLK, Multiplier, Vcore, and Ram frequency.

According to overclock elitists, we do need to touch that because LLC and SVID can manage the voltage all on their own without ever taking the actual vcore into account. 

 

I never touch BCLK, I always make sure it's at 100 because I only touch the multiplier. RAM frequency is whatever it's rated for with XMP (which is currently 3000 MHz. 

 

If we're simplifying this to the bare essentials as you say (omitting BCLK and RAM frequency because of what I said above), we're left with the multiplier and vcore. I've set the multiplier to 42 because that's as high as I'll ever need to go. I suppose I should set the vcore manually and not deal with offsets and adaptive?

 

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"CPU Core Voltage Override" is where I input the voltage, right? Should I try setting say 1.26 and rolling with it? Or would 1.26 be more suitable for 4.4 GHz?

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5 minutes ago, Preston Garvey said:

According to overclock elitists, we do need to touch that because LLC and SVID can manage the voltage all on their own without ever taking the actual vcore into account. 

 

I never touch BCLK, I always make sure it's at 100 because I only touch the multiplier. RAM frequency is whatever it's rated for with XMP (which is currently 3000 MHz. 

 

If we're simplifying this to the bare essentials as you say (omitting BCLK and RAM frequency because of what I said above), we're left with the multiplier and vcore. I've set the multiplier to 42 because that's as high as I'll ever need to go. I suppose I should set the vcore manually and not deal with offsets and adaptive?

 

csjoBCa.jpg

 

"CPU Core Voltage Override" is where I input the voltage, right? Should I try setting say 1.26 and rolling with it? Or would 1.26 be more suitable for 4.4 GHz?

Based on limited research, it seems the common consensus is that 1.3v is the sweet spot for these chips.

 

The question is, how far do you want to go?

 

1.26v isn't a bad place to start. You could dial that in, configure your LLC, and slowly dial in your OC until you hit your voltage limit.

 

Don't worry about setting up offset until you dial in your OC.

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6 minutes ago, SageOfSpice said:

Based on limited research, it seems the common consensus is that 1.3v is the sweet spot for these chips.

 

The question is, how far do you want to go?

 

1.26v isn't a bad place to start. You could dial that in, configure your LLC, and slowly dial in your OC until you hit your voltage limit.

 

Don't worry about setting up offset until you dial in your OC.

I only ever want to do 4.2. 

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3 minutes ago, Preston Garvey said:

I only ever want to do 4.2. 

Well then all you really need to do is alter your multiplier to reach said clock speed, manually input all the voltages so they remain constant, enable LLC, disable SVID, and keep lowering that voltage by .01 volts until the system becomes unstable, and then step it back two steps and you should be golden. Once you lock in the OC at a static voltage, you can work towards setting up an offset to decrease your power consumption by finding the average of the voltages between a stock state and an overclocked state and using half the difference as your value for the offset. 

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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

OCing the CPU makes windows much much more snappy.

An SSD will make much more difference in "snappiness" than any OC will.

 

I used to overclock, years ago. I don't bother any more because I never saw any real change in performance and/or I just buy a faster CPU to begin with.

If you are running an MMO or GTA V or some other game or app that is CPU intensive, you can gain a few fps (10-15%). Most games are limited more by the GPU than the CPU, so overclocking the CPU makes little difference.

 

 

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46 minutes ago, SageOfSpice said:

Well then all you really need to do is alter your multiplier to reach said clock speed, manually input all the voltages so they remain constant, enable LLC, disable SVID, and keep lowering that voltage by .01 volts until the system becomes unstable, and then step it back two steps and you should be golden. Once you lock in the OC at a static voltage, you can work towards setting up an offset to decrease your power consumption by finding the average of the voltages between a stock state and an overclocked state and using half the difference as your value for the offset. 

That's too much work for my level of interest. 

 

I think I'll just leave everything at auto. If I had intended to overclock higher than 4.2, I'd have bothered with voltages.

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1 hour ago, Preston Garvey said:

That's too much work for my level of interest. 

 

I think I'll just leave everything at auto. If I had intended to overclock higher than 4.2, I'd have bothered with voltages.

no point buying a k cpu then 

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