[The Duality] [Dual System, Godavari & Skylake in a Frozen-Q Apex mATX]

[duality92]

I'm staff on overclock.net.... 

 

Also, Skylake has only been out for a year now, how are most dead in 2 years? If you're reffering to Haswell, then yes, 1.488v is too high for Haswell.

 

Skylake upper safe limit is 1.45v (fyi) I'm just running .038v over that.

 

The thread is : http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics/0_20

 

And it says 

 

Safe Voltages (TENTATIVE):

Vcore: 1.45v/1.4v

VCCIO: 1.25v/1.2v

System Agent (SA): 1.3v/1.25v

Vdimm: 1.4v/1.35v

No Cache voltage or Input Voltage with Skylake

 

The first value shows voltages a pretty ballsy person can use. The voltage after the forward slash shows voltages for regular users who don't want to live on the edge. Please do not exceed these parameters unless you are a serious power-user that knows what he/she is doing and is willing to accept the risks.

[Yahtadi]

9 minutes ago, duality92 said:

I'm staff on overclock.net.... 

Wuut.. Big fans ocd.net mate

Once i also found this
Asus have said 1.4V max if you stress test. 1.42V if you stress test while water cooled.

But Kyle said Asus informed him that all programs that read CPU voltage can have large errors after he reported problems.
He has seen over 0.4V discrepancy.
Apparently you cant trust any program, even those that come with the motherboard.

Careful if you use high LLC settings as under load this can exceed the voltage you set in the BIOS

"Skylake upper safe limit is 1.45v (fyi) I'm just running .038v over that."
Seriously? Everything i have read were wrong? 1.45v? that was ejaculated

[duality92]

1 minute ago, Yahtadi said:

Wuut.. Big fans ocd.net mate

Once i also found this
Asus have said 1.4V max if you stress test. 1.42V if you stress test while water cooled.

But Kyle said Asus informed him that all programs that read CPU voltage can have large errors after he reported problems.
He has seen over 0.4V discrepancy.
Apparently you cant trust any program, even those that come with the motherboard.

Careful if you use high LLC settings as under load this can exceed the voltage you set in the BIOS

"Skylake upper safe limit is 1.45v (fyi) I'm just running .038v over that."
Seriously? Everything i have read were wrong? 1.45v? that was ejaculated

Thanks ^^ LTT have a great forum too

 

I set 1.5v in BIOS and under load it becomes 1.488v with High LLC.

[duality92]

UPDATE TIME!

We finally finished the design of the case. My creative mind goes crazy when I get to do customization. Cutting should be starting today! This is an as-close-as-you'll-get render of the case

[duality92]

I'll just leave these here.

[belfouf]

16 hours ago, duality92 said:

I'm staff on overclock.net.... 

 

Also, Skylake has only been out for a year now, how are most dead in 2 years? If you're reffering to Haswell, then yes, 1.488v is too high for Haswell.

 

Skylake upper safe limit is 1.45v (fyi) I'm just running .038v over that.

 

The thread is : http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics/0_20

 

And it says 

 

Safe Voltages (TENTATIVE):

Vcore: 1.45v/1.4v

VCCIO: 1.25v/1.2v

System Agent (SA): 1.3v/1.25v

Vdimm: 1.4v/1.35v

No Cache voltage or Input Voltage with Skylake

 

The first value shows voltages a pretty ballsy person can use. The voltage after the forward slash shows voltages for regular users who don't want to live on the edge. Please do not exceed these parameters unless you are a serious power-user that knows what he/she is doing and is willing to accept the risks.

Big fan of this thread, thank you it helped me understanding how to OC my 6600K last month. now running safe 4.6 core 4.4 uncore @1.330

[duality92]

2 hours ago, belfouf said:

Big fan of this thread, thank you it helped me understanding how to OC my 6600K last month. now running safe 4.6 core 4.4 uncore @1.330

 

That's great!

[belfouf]

1 minute ago, duality92 said:

 

That's great!

isn't that average ? My temps are good though (71°C under prime95 last version, 50-60°C max in games) 

anyway it's more than enough for my daily use, 16K firestrike was the objective (done).  

[duality92]

54 minutes ago, belfouf said:

isn't that average ? My temps are good though (71°C under prime95 last version, 50-60°C max in games) 

anyway it's more than enough for my daily use, 16K firestrike was the objective (done).  

 

Yeah, it's average, but a lot of people don't want to push it that far. With your current voltage, you could most likely do 4.7 at around 1.4-1.43v.

[duality92]

Just to let you all know, I should be getting pictures of the assembled case today To not reveal too much the paper backing will remain (it's actually to protect it during shipping, but helps to not reveal too much

[TheRandomness]

On 27 September 2016 at 8:23 PM, duality92 said:

These chips handle up to 1.5v under load fine, I personally wouldn't even mind going up to 1.55v.

1.5V starts degrading the chip quite fast. 1.55V is even worse. 

[duality92]

1 hour ago, TheRandomness said:

1.5V starts degrading the chip quite fast. 1.55V is even worse. 

 

Can you show me anywhere linking proof to this? What tests were made? Is it proven to be the same on all chips, since we know no two chips will behave alike?

 

Genuinely interested because I see this stated no where else.

[TheRandomness]

Just now, duality92 said:

 

Can you show me anywhere linking proof to this? What tests were made? Is it proven to be the same on all chips, since we know no two chips will behave alike?

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It does appear that vcore is a bit higher for skylake. I'm sure most would consider staying below 'max' but according to intel max operating cpu voltage is 1.52v. Sounds pretty high and a lot of overclockers seem to be staying around 1.45 or under if possible. Here's a screenshot of the intel data sheet (so others can find it in the pdf since it's a large list).

http://prntscr.com/8s0sjg

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/...

 

[duality92]

1.52v sound more reasonable. This is most likely the voltage for a 24/7, 100% load chip too. Running a chip at that voltage, where it sees a load at 100% once in a while, isn't too bad. I don't recommend it personally, but as I've stated earlier in the thread, I know exactly what risks I am taking running my chip at such voltages and I would be relatively confortable running it at 1.55v.

 

This is also what the intel tuning plan is for

[duality92]

[duality92]

[duality92]

I can't tell you exactly what but I've got something big coming. Something Pascal big from Gigabyte.

[19_blackie_73]

35 minutes ago, duality92 said:

I can't tell you exactly what but I've got something big coming. Something Pascal big from Gigabyte.

le'me guess: titan xp?  

or "only" a 1080?

[Lays]

On 9/28/2016 at 8:32 AM, duality92 said:

I'm staff on overclock.net.... 

 

Also, Skylake has only been out for a year now, how are most dead in 2 years? If you're reffering to Haswell, then yes, 1.488v is too high for Haswell.

 

Skylake upper safe limit is 1.45v (fyi) I'm just running .038v over that.

 

The thread is : http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics/0_20

 

And it says 

 

Safe Voltages (TENTATIVE):

Vcore: 1.45v/1.4v

VCCIO: 1.25v/1.2v

System Agent (SA): 1.3v/1.25v

Vdimm: 1.4v/1.35v

No Cache voltage or Input Voltage with Skylake

 

The first value shows voltages a pretty ballsy person can use. The voltage after the forward slash shows voltages for regular users who don't want to live on the edge. Please do not exceed these parameters unless you are a serious power-user that knows what he/she is doing and is willing to accept the risks.

 

Seems like everybody on here has misconceptions about safe voltages on Skylake lol.  Everytime I try and get voltage advice in a thread people are like OMG 1.4V??? HOW COULD YO THAT POOR CPU! Lol.

I've been running 1.43v for a few months now and haven't seen any sort of degradation or problems, although my chip runs at a nice and cool 45-55c under normal load conditions and 65-72c in prime95. Even the 4 or 5 times I've had my chip on dry ice at 1.65v+ I haven't seen any issues. In my experience if you push more voltage but find a way to keep it in the safe zone temp wise, they'll treat ya well.

 

[duality92]

13 hours ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

le'me guess: titan xp?  

or "only" a 1080?

 

Not a Titan lol. It will output around 700k folding

[MoonlightSylv]

1 minute ago, duality92 said:

 

Not a Titan lol. It will output around 700k folding

1070

1060

1050Ti

 

one of those  

[duality92]

12 hours ago, Lays said:

 

Seems like everybody on here has misconceptions about safe voltages on Skylake lol.  Everytime I try and get voltage advice in a thread people are like OMG 1.4V??? HOW COULD YO THAT POOR CPU! Lol.

I've been running 1.43v for a few months now and haven't seen any sort of degradation or problems, although my chip runs at a nice and cool 45-55c under normal load conditions and 65-72c in prime95. Even the 4 or 5 times I've had my chip on dry ice at 1.65v+ I haven't seen any issues. In my experience if you push more voltage but find a way to keep it in the safe zone temp wise, they'll treat ya well.

 

 

Yeah usually. I usually am pretty rough on my stuff though, but I'm keeping this Skylake at 1.488v lol. Other wise I would be running it at like 1.55

[duality92]

Just now, ShadowTechXTS said:

1070

1060

1050Ti

 

one of those  

 

Only one of those outputs around 700k ppd

 

 

[MoonlightSylv]

1 hour ago, duality92 said:

 

Only one of those outputs around 700k ppd

 

 

1070?

http://forums.evga.com/GTX-1070-PPD-m2497761.aspx

[duality92]