Hello PC gaming

[palito]

Jumped on PC gaming last week.  I bought the following PC from my neighbor:

Antec 300

500 watt bronze psu

16gb ddr3

240gb ssd

1tb hd

Win 8.1

4690

 

All for $300.  I'm using on board video for now.  GTA5 runs at 35fps on low settings.  LOL!

I'm spending no more than $250 tops on a gpu.  I have my eyes on a GTX 970 for $240 brand new at a local store.

The 1070 is too much money for me.  I do hope the 1060 gets released soon and falls in my budget.  The wait is killing me.

 

Is the 970 a good deal for $240?  Please, do NOT suggest AMD.  Just don't.

[iiNNeX]

3 minutes ago, palito said:

Jumped on PC gaming last week.  I bought the following PC from my neighbor:

Antec 300

500 watt bronze psu

16gb ddr3

240gb ssd

1tb hd

Win 8.1

4690

 

All for $300.  I'm using on board video for now.  GTA5 runs at 35fps on low settings.  LOL!

I'm spending no more than $250 tops on a gpu.  I have my eyes on a GTX 970 for $240 brand new at a local store.

The 1070 is too much money for me.  I do hope the 1060 gets released soon and falls in my budget.  The wait is killing me.

 

Is the 970 a good deal for $240?  Please, do NOT suggest AMD.  Just don't.

I'm an nvidia fanboy, but sadly for that much money wait for the AMD RX480. It is faster than a 980 for $200....

 

Alternatively yes 970 or perhaps a 1070 depending on those prices.

[palito]

I've also seen that it can use just about all of its vram and not tank as many people allege.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhPaTsDl_Lk

[tahmidkhan123]

Wait for AMD's rx480, a lot better performance for your money. 

[ShadowCaptain]

4 minutes ago, palito said:

 Please, do NOT suggest AMD.  Just don't.

new to PC gaming and already an Nvidia fanboy

 

the new 480 for $200 is probably your best bet until we see the 1060 specs/pricing

[smittywits]

2 minutes ago, palito said:

I've also seen that it can use just about all of its vram and not tank as many people allege.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhPaTsDl_Lk

That problem was fixed after the fact, using drivers. The fact still remains that it was an underhanded tactic to begin with.

 

6 minutes ago, palito said:

Jumped on PC gaming last week.  I bought the following PC from my neighbor:

Antec 300

500 watt bronze psu

16gb ddr3

240gb ssd

1tb hd

Win 8.1

4690

 

All for $300.  I'm using on board video for now.  GTA5 runs at 35fps on low settings.  LOL!

I'm spending no more than $250 tops on a gpu.  I have my eyes on a GTX 970 for $240 brand new at a local store.

The 1070 is too much money for me.  I do hope the 1060 gets released soon and falls in my budget.  The wait is killing me.

 

Is the 970 a good deal for $240?  Please, do NOT suggest AMD.  Just don't.

At your budget, your best price to performance ratio is going to be the RX480, hands down. If you want to hold to being a fanboy that badly while shooting yourself in the foot, then that's an "okay" deal for the 970 at the current time. Personally though, that extra $40 can buy you a new game with the 480.

[ivan134]

Lmao. Good luck in pc gaming.

[Matias_Chambers]

Fanboying over a brand is stupid when you are talking tech. Wait for AMD's RX 480 which might perform the same as a 980 and will be MUCH better value for your money than the 970. It will cost 199.99 and be released June 29th. 

Edited June 6, 2016 by Matias_Chambers

[Herman Mcpootis]

20 minutes ago, palito said:

 Please, do NOT suggest AMD.  Just don't.

Please, do NOT be a fanboy.

Just don't.

AMD performs better than nvidia at this pricepoint, and their r9 480 for $200 will be the better value once it's released. If you insist on being a fanboy, i suggest you don't even bother commenting here; everyone's just gonna recommend you a AMD gpu.

[palito]

It's not gpu fanboyism as many here have already displayed.

I have a personal grudge with AMD as a whole a few years ago.  I'd rather not give them a dime of my money.

[VagabondWraith]

2 minutes ago, palito said:

I have a personal grudge with AMD as a whole a few years ago.  I'd rather not give them a dime of my money.

Any relation to zMuel?

[HKZeroFive]

8 minutes ago, palito said:

It's not gpu fanboyism as many here have already displayed.

I have a personal grudge with AMD as a whole a few years ago.  I'd rather not give them a dime of my money.

Honestly, that's such a petty reason - unless they did something REALLY unforgivable, one bad experience doesn't determine a company. Essentially, you'd be happy to sacrifice more performance for your money just to fulfil this grudge of yours?

 

Anyway, wait for the RX 480 and its benchmarks. Or get the GTX 970 like you initially planned if you're that deadset on not getting AMD - it's not my money anyway.

[smittywits]

1 minute ago, palito said:

It's not gpu fanboyism as many here have already displayed.

I have a personal grudge with AMD as a whole a few years ago.  I'd rather not give them a dime of my money.

I'm running an Intel/Nvidia system. Two actually. My suggestion has to do with the best use case for your money. I included my opinion about the 970 in my post as well.

1 minute ago, HKZeroFive said:

Honestly, that's such a petty reason - unless they did something REALLY unforgivable, one bad experience doesn't determine a company. Essentially, you'd be happy to sacrifice more performance for your money just to fulfil this grudge of yours?

 

Anyway, wait for the RX 480. Or get the GTX 970 like you initially planned if you're that deadset - it's not my money anyway.

Also, it's fairly likely that whatever problem you had with your last AMD GPU was the fault of the board partner company, not AMD itself. You should make sure you're placing your blames correctly, if you're going to hold a grudge. Most of the people here are either open about their company bias or not biased, and you may find yourself at a loss if you don't have solid reasoning.

[Jacktastic-Mofo]

I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks this but since the GP-106 GPU was recently spotted in the wild I think that NVIDIA is gonna rush a 1060/1060 ti out soon to combat the hype around RX 480 so that AMD doesn't dominate the entry level GPU market.

[TheRandomness]

9 minutes ago, palito said:

It's not gpu fanboyism as many here have already displayed.

I have a personal grudge with AMD as a whole a few years ago.  I'd rather not give them a dime of my money.

Even though the RX 480 will perform better than a 970 (Performs about the same level as a Fury/980) for $199~?

Also, if that grudge is because of a CPU, then you were wrong to buy an AMD CPU in the first place.

[ivan134]

38 minutes ago, palito said:

It's not gpu fanboyism as many here have already displayed.

I have a personal grudge with AMD as a whole a few years ago.  I'd rather not give them a dime of my money.

How do you have a grudge against them if you just joined pc gaming? 

[palito]

23 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

How do you have a grudge against them if you just joined pc gaming? 

There are other uses for computers besides gaming.

[palito]

51 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Also, if that grudge is because of a CPU, then you were wrong to buy an AMD CPU in the first place.

A family member was a former employee of AMD.  He got screwed over.  No, he wasn't reporting to work drunk.  His job was sent overseas to keep their stock holders happy.

[ivan134]

1 minute ago, palito said:

A family member was a former employee of AMD.  He got screwed over.  No, he wasn't reporting to work drunk.  His job was sent overseas to keep their stock holders happy.

LOL. Then why are you buying from Nvidia? Or any company?

[palito]

2 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

LOL. Then why are you buying from Nvidia? Or any company?

Lesser of two evils.

[SteveGrabowski0]

31 minutes ago, palito said:

Lesser of two evils.

It would be nuts to buy a Maxwell card today. Nvidia doesn't give a shit about optimizing their drivers for old architectures. I have seen lots of GTX 780 and GTX 780 Ti owners pissed about how their performance has fallen off while AMD's R9 290 and R9 290x are still getting better and better with new drivers. Also Maxwell dies in DX12, look at how the GTX 970 performs vs the R9 390 in Hitman or Quantum Break. The time to get an Nvidia card is when they launch, not almost two years later when they're out of production and the driver team is focusing on a new architecture. They'll probably also wait for a few months with 1060 just like they did with 960 because they wanted people to pay for 970s.

[SteveGrabowski0]

42 minutes ago, palito said:

A family member was a former employee of AMD.  He got screwed over.  No, he wasn't reporting to work drunk.  His job was sent overseas to keep their stock holders happy.

Then save up for a 1070. Nothing below it makes any sense until 1060 launches, and maybe they'll put out a crap 1060 like they did a crap 960 to keep from cannibalizing sales of their 70 series card.

[palito]

22 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

It would be nuts to buy a Maxwell card today. Nvidia doesn't give a shit about optimizing their drivers for old architectures. I have seen lots of GTX 780 and GTX 780 Ti owners pissed about how their performance has fallen off while AMD's R9 290 and R9 290x are still getting better and better with new drivers. Also Maxwell dies in DX12, look at how the GTX 970 performs vs the R9 390 in Hitman or Quantum Break. The time to get an Nvidia card is when they launch, not almost two years later when they're out of production and the driver team is focusing on a new architecture. They'll probably also wait for a few months with 1060 just like they did with 960 because they wanted people to pay for 970s.

Hitman and Quantum Break are AMD optimized titles.  No surprise there.  It happens on camp Nvidia too, where games optimized for it performs worse on AMD.

 

Not to mention the 390 costs about $90 more.  $90 for 5% better performance and having to buy a beefy PSU... I'll pass.

 

As for DX12, it's not a concern to me.  It's still an API that has a lot of maturing to do and current games that support it run better on DX11.  I would say DX12 would actually matter around 2019.  I'm being realistic since people thought it was the end of DX10 when 11 came along.  Heck, D10 is still quite capable.

 

Given the amount of money I'm willing to spend, I'm not looking to invest on something that's 3-4 years from now on a device that has a lifespan (gpu) of about 2-3 years.

[Carclis]

19 minutes ago, palito said:

Hitman and Quantum Break are AMD optimized titles.  No surprise there.  It happens on camp Nvidia too, where games optimized for it performs worse on AMD.

 

As for DX12, it's not a concern to me.  It's still an API that has a lot of maturing to do and current games that support it run better on DX11.  I would say DX12 would actually matter around 2019.  I'm being realistic since people thought it was the end of DX10 when 11 came along.  Heck, D10 is still quite capable.

 

Given the amount of money I'm willing to spend, I'm not looking to invest on something that's 3-4 years from now on a device that has a lifespan (gpu) of about 2-3 years.

DX12 is a much bigger deal than any of it's other iterations and has been sorely needed for quite some time. Most games coming out from now on will be either DX12 or Vulkan so it only makes sense to buy DX12 hardware.

 

If you really want to buy the 970 just to spite AMD, that's up to you and you'd be shooting yourself in the foot for one sale AMD won't lose any sleep over. Again, having brand loyalty or holding a grudge over something that every single business does is going to hurt you more than anything and really makes no sense whatsoever. Plus you said it yourself, why invest in outdated hardware if you plan to hold onto it for 3-4 years?

 

Have you heard of the recent Intel layoffs? So what CPU are you going to buy instead?

http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2016/05/intel_warns_employees_take_the.html

[iiNNeX]

1 hour ago, palito said:

A family member was a former employee of AMD.  He got screwed over.  No, he wasn't reporting to work drunk.  His job was sent overseas to keep their stock holders happy.

What.

 

That has to be the silliest reason to hate on a company, when basically you only have 2 companies to choose from when it comes to GPUs...

 

In that case, if you knew you already hated AMD in the first place, why come here and ask if the nvidia card in your price budget is OK, if you wouldn't take no for an answer?

 

Maybe console gaming is better for you.