Mini-ITX 1070 Build

[aeroencychris]

For a friend, trying to keep it (relatively) low budget overall hence some of the cuts you'll see. Figured Skylake wouldn't be much more expensive than, say, a 4460-based system since I'm not overclocking anything. I'm taking the 1TB drive from his laptop so although it won't be very fast, it should be fine for mass storage. SSD is about the cheapest one I could find with decent ratings. I use it right now and it works fine for a budget PC. Modular PSU is useless unless you go fully modular in the SG13B (coming from experience) so I didn't even bother.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yR8H9W
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yR8H9W/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($41.98 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($34.39 @ Newegg) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($35.91 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Silverstone Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case  ($42.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ NCIX US) 
Monitor: Acer GN246HL 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($180.98 @ Newegg) 
Other: GTX 1070 ($379.00)
Other: 2.5" 1TB Drive (Purchased)
Total: $1018.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-26 21:35 EDT-0400

 

Thoughts?

[HPWebcamAble]

What's the total budget?

 

Looks pretty good for $1018 though.

[Dargenfire]

7 minutes ago, cdsboy2000 said:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($41.98 @ OutletPC) 

No big need for a 3rd party cooler, as you can't overclock.

Take that $40 out and put it somewhere else.

[Streetguru]

9 minutes ago, cdsboy2000 said:

 

Should get a bigger SSD

 

and a 390 + Free-sync display is going to be better than a 1070 with a standard 1080p 144hz display

 

Also Polaris 10 is going to be out soon if you're waiting, that'd be better than a 390

 

You should also get a better PSU, probably modular for ITX

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sDVBD8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sDVBD8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($109.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($34.39 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin ECO3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  ($303.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($42.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC G2460PF 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Other: 2.5" 1TB Drive (Purchased)
Total: $1023.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-26 21:48 EDT-0400

[Dargenfire]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

and a 390 + Free-sync display is going to be better than a 1070 with a standard 1080p 144hz display

 

I disagree. From what I've seen of the 1070's release price, I reckon it's better value for money than any AMD card right now.

Plus, with a higher refresh rate monitor, screen tearing isn't as noticeable, lessening the advantages of G-sync or Freesync.

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Dargenfire said:

I disagree. From what I've seen of the 1070's release price, I reckon it's better value for money than any AMD card right now.

Plus, with a higher refresh rate monitor, screen tearing isn't as noticeable, lessening the advantages of G-sync or Freesync.

It has more performance but you get the nicer display as far features go, dunno how close Polaris 10 will be to the 1070

 

You could also, and probably the best option for the long run, is get a 1440p 144hz display, and then never have to replace the display, it's about $350 for a free-sync one. but that would mean getting like a 380, which could do 720p at 144hz for AAA games at least, but then eventually the really high end GPU comes out that can push 144fps at 1440p

[aeroencychris]

13 minutes ago, HPWebcamAble said:

What's the total budget?

 

Looks pretty good for $1018 though.

Not sure yet, just wanted to give an all around good 1070-based build.

[aeroencychris]

12 minutes ago, Dargenfire said:

No big need for a 3rd party cooler, as you can't overclock.

Take that $40 out and put it somewhere else.

I use that cooler on my 4460 and I figured I'd throw it in there just to be safe (since airflow is very restricted in that case). If budget becomes an issue I'll get rid of it.

[Dargenfire]

1 minute ago, cdsboy2000 said:

I use that cooler on my 4460 and I figured I'd throw it in there just to be safe (since airflow is very restricted in that case). If budget becomes an issue I'll get rid of it.

Fair enough

[aeroencychris]

12 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Should get a bigger SSD

 

and a 390 + Free-sync display is going to be better than a 1070 with a standard 1080p 144hz display

 

Also Polaris 10 is going to be out soon if you're waiting, that'd be better than a 390

 

You should also get a better PSU, probably modular for ITX

 

-snip-

120GB is fine for his case, only a boot SSD

I'd disagree on the 390, I want this build to last so I want a good 1000 series card. I own the monitor I'm suggesting and it looks way better than any FreeSync panel I've seen.

I'm kind of set on the 1070, looks very good price-to-performance.

PSU is fine, use it in my 4690k build. Read my comment on the modularity.

[aeroencychris]

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

It has more performance but you get the nicer display as far features go, dunno how close Polaris 10 will be to the 1070

 

You could also, and probably the best option for the long run, is get a 1440p 144hz display, and then never have to replace the display, it's about $350 for a free-sync one. but that would mean getting like a 380, which could do 720p at 144hz for AAA games at least, but then eventually the really high end GPU comes out that can push 144fps at 1440p

Too much of a hit in the budget imo, 1080@144hz is plenty for him.

[Dargenfire]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

It has more performance but you get the nicer display as far features go, dunno how close Polaris 10 will be to the 1070

 

You could also, and probably the best option for the long run, is get a 1440p 144hz display, and then never have to replace the display, it's about $350 for a free-sync one. but that would mean getting like a 380, which could do 720p at 144hz for AAA games at least, but then eventually the really high end GPU comes out that can push 144fps at 1440p

As far as I can tell, any 144hz free sync monitors will defeat the $1k aim of this build with their price, let alone 1440p and freesync.

[Dargenfire]

1 minute ago, cdsboy2000 said:

Too much of a hit in the budget imo, 1080@144hz is plenty for him.

Jinx

[aeroencychris]

1 minute ago, Dargenfire said:

As far as I can tell, any 144hz free sync monitors will defeat the $1k aim of this build with their price, let alone 1440p and freesync.

Until I hear concrete news about Polaris I can't really investigate that further

[Dargenfire]

1 minute ago, cdsboy2000 said:

Until I hear concrete news about Polaris I can't really investigate that further

The price of freesync monitors isn't related to the release of Polaris.

What I'm saying is that a 1080p 144hz Freesync monitor will be more expensive than a 1080p 144hz non-Freesync monitor.

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Dargenfire said:

As far as I can tell, any 144hz free sync monitors will defeat the $1k aim of this build with their price, let alone 1440p and freesync.

It would be $200 + $350 vs $300 + $200 for GPU/display, so it's only $50 more or so for an even better display

 

7 minutes ago, cdsboy2000 said:

 

and a display is far more future proof than just about any GPU. should you invest in the 1440p 144hz display

 

and even as just a boot SSD you'll run out of space pretty quickly with 120gbs

but ya polaris news comes out June 1st

[aeroencychris]

6 minutes ago, Dargenfire said:

The price of freesync monitors isn't related to the release of Polaris.

What I'm saying is that a 1080p 144hz Freesync monitor will be more expensive than a 1080p 144hz non-Freesync monitor.

Going FreeSync would require me to get an AMD GPU which I don't want to do until Polaris

[aeroencychris]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

It would be $200 + $350 vs $300 + $200 for GPU/display, so it's only $50 more or so for an even better display

 

and a display is far more future proof than just about any GPU. should you invest in the 1440p 144hz display

 

and even as just a boot SSD you'll run out of space pretty quickly with 120gbs

but ya polaris news comes out June 1st

Boot SSD is not an issue

If Polaris seems tempting I might consider. Otherwise I'm staying non-Freesync I think.

[Dargenfire]

2 minutes ago, cdsboy2000 said:

Going FreeSync would require me to get an AMD GPU which I don't want to do until Polaris

Ah, okay. Your question came across as though you thought freesync needed Polaris.

 

3 minutes ago, cdsboy2000 said:

Going FreeSync would require me to get an AMD GPU which I don't want to do until Polaris

Agreed. It's a very risky time to go with AMD.

[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, Dargenfire said:

The price of freesync monitors isn't related to the release of Polaris.

What I'm saying is that a 1080p 144hz Freesync monitor will be more expensive than a 1080p 144hz non-Freesync monitor.

It was only $20 more for free-sync, might as well get that anyways just incase nvidia decides to care about freedom someday.

[aeroencychris]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

It was only $20 more for free-sync, might as well get that anyways just incase nvidia decides to care about freedom someday.

I can't imagine a future where NVIDIA will switch to FreeSync anytime soon

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, cdsboy2000 said:

I can't imagine a future where NVIDIA will switch to FreeSync anytime soon

That's basically what mobile G-sync is anyways, besides G-sync probably won't last given it's hefty price increase.

[Dargenfire]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

It was only $20 more for free-sync, might as well get that anyways just incase nvidia decides to care about freedom someday.

IMO at 144hz, screen tearing isn't that noticeable. Plus the higher refresh rate means that you can turn V-sync on, and it won't create as much of a delay as a 60hz monitor. (But I still wouldn't turn V-sync on for games like CS:GO)

[Streetguru]

22 minutes ago, Dargenfire said:

IMO at 144hz, screen tearing isn't that noticeable. Plus the higher refresh rate means that you can turn V-sync on, and it won't create as much of a delay as a 60hz monitor. (But I still wouldn't turn V-sync on for games like CS:GO)

I never use V-sync for anything, for old games I just turn on a frame limit

 

but it's still a little nicer, and the 1440p 144hz TN version at least is fairly affordable