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[GirlFromYonder]

1 minute ago, No said:

FX 8320 and r9 280x

You do know that the R9 280X is better than the R9 380

 

R9 380=R9 285<R9 280X

[Mr.Meerkat]

Just now, No said:

FX 8320 and r9 280x

Do you still have that 280x? The 380 is a rebrand (can't even call it a refresh) of the 285 which uses the same (but cut down) core of the 280x so if you still have that 280x, keep it (unless you've already sold it or have other plans for it ).

[No]

Just now, DeezNoNos said:

You do know that the R9 280X is better than the R9 380

 

R9 380=R9 285<R9 280X

yeah but an fx-8320 is shit

r9 380 is less of a change

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Do you still have that 280x? The 380 is a rebrand (can't even call it a refresh) of the 285 which uses the same (but cut down) core of the 280x so if you still have that 280x, keep it (unless you've already sold it or have other plans for it ).

280X is not the same core as the 380. GCN 1.0 vs GCN 1.2
380 performs better with Tess, is MUCH more efficient, has better DX12 performance and supports AMD features

[GirlFromYonder]

1 minute ago, No said:

yeah but an fx-8320 is shit

r9 380 is less of a change

Yeah but just saying. 

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, No said:

yeah but an fx-8320 is shit

r9 380 is less of a change

You can keep your 280X and save up for a 480

[No]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Do you still have that 280x? The 380 is a rebrand (can't even call it a refresh) of the 285 which uses the same (but cut down) core of the 280x so if you still have that 280x, keep it (unless you've already sold it or have other plans for it ).

mm i might be able to switch out the r9 280x with the 380 i get

[GirlFromYonder]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

You can keep your 280X and save up for a 480

I think she already sold it. 

[LeStringMan]

2 minutes ago, No said:

FX 8320 and r9 280x

If i were you i might try to squeeze an Skylake i5 into the budget, the FX-8350 matches the 4460 in most games, but with an AMD gpu you should see more fps gains, as they have more cpu overhead in their drivers, either way though build looks good.

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

280X is not the same core as the 380. GCN 1.0 vs GCN 1.2
380 performs better with Tess, is MUCH more efficient, has better DX12 performance and supports AMD features

the 380 is a rebrand of the 285 which you can agree with right? The 285 used the same/similar core as the 280/280x but AMD calls it Tonga instead of Tahiti because it's gotten refreshed (Just like how AMD calls the cores in 390s Grenada instead of Hawaii as they refreshed the cards) which allows them to call it something else as it's not a direct copy and paste.

[don_svetlio]

3 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

the 380 is a rebrand of the 285 which you can agree with right? The 285 used the same/similar core as the 280/280x but AMD calls it Tonga instead of Tahiti because it's gotten refreshed (Just like how AMD calls the cores in 390s Grenada instead of Hawaii as they refreshed the cards) which allows them to call it something else as it's not a direct copy and paste.

380 is the 285 core, yes.

the 285 core is based on Fiji and not on Tahiti, however. Tahiti is not remotely connected, beyond the whole architecture being called GCN. Tonga was being prepped for 20nm and was originally supposed to be a showcase of the new process before the 300 series dropped but both Nvidia nad AMD found the 20nm TSMC process to be useless so instead they opted for 28nm and higher yields.

[Mr.Meerkat]

11 minutes ago, No said:

mm i might be able to switch out the r9 280x with the 380 i get

If you already sold the 280x then just keep the 380  there's no real reason to switch them around as they perform about the same.

 

Also, if you don't mind spending $23 more for skylake then it could be worth it  

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus H170-PLUS D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($27.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.98 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB NITRO Dual-X OC Video Card  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($53.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $621.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-15 14:02 EDT-0400

 

(swapped out the PSU for that XFX 550W instead but don't worry, it's still the OEM Seasonic bronze rated ones  not the new shitty XT series which is outsourced.)

 

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

380 is the 285 core, yes.

the 285 core is based on Fiji and not on Tahiti, however. Tahiti is not remotely connected, beyond the whole architecture being called GCN. Tonga was being prepped for 20nm and was originally supposed to be a showcase of the new process before the 300 series dropped but both Nvidia nad AMD found the 20nm TSMC process to be useless so instead they opted for 28nm and higher yields.

Well Tahiti and Tonga preforms very similar in terms of gaming FPS and back then, every single review I read basically just called it a refresh as it wasn't a complete copy and paste but they are/were very similar.

[don_svetlio]

7 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

If you already sold the 280x then just keep the 380  there's no real reason to switch them around as they perform about the same.

 

Also, if you don't mind spending $23 more for skylake then it could be worth it  

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus H170-PLUS D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($27.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.98 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB NITRO Dual-X OC Video Card  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($53.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $621.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-15 14:02 EDT-0400

 

(swapped out the PSU for that XFX 550W instead but don't worry, it's still the OEM Seasonic bronze rated ones  not the new shitty XT series which is outsourced.)

 

Well Tahiti and Tonga preforms very similar in terms of gaming FPS and back then, every single review I read basically just called it a refresh as it wasn't a complete copy and paste but they are/were very similar.

They are similar, yes. But the 280 uses 200W stock whereas the 285(380) uses 150W(TDP listing is for the full 380X chip aka Tonga XT) at stock. The Tess engine on the 380 is also MUCH better than that on the 280(X) resulting in the 380 outperforming the 280 by 15% in Tess heavy scenarios. It also features double the A-sync pipelines for a greater boost under DX12.

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

They are similar, yes. But the 280 uses 200W stock whereas the 285(380) uses 150W(TDP listing is for the full 380X chip aka Tonga XT) at stock. The Tess engine on the 380 is also MUCH better than that on the 280(X) resulting in the 380 outperforming the 280 by 15% in Tess heavy scenarios. It also features double the A-sync pipelines for a greater boost under DX12.

I guess but from a DX11 and a current point of view, a 380 performs about the same as a 280x so it's not a upgrade nor a downgrade and I wouldn't even call it a sidegrade  

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

I guess but from a DX11 and a current point of view, a 380 performs about the same as a 280x so it's not a upgrade nor a downgrade and I wouldn't even call it a sidegrade  

Currently yes but under DX12 the 380 is, undoubtedly, superior. It also produces less heat and runs quieter, especially the Nitro cooler

[FRN]

13 hours ago, DEcobra11 said:

Actually it's good, as the 520W version is only 2$ less

 

A skylake variant

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($26.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $628.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-15 13:36 EDT-0400

 

 

Why not the Seasonic M12II 520w? Its fully modular for just a couple of bucks higher.