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Can an FX-8350BE run a 1070 or 1080

So, I am currently running a stock 8350, system specs in my user tag.

Is there any solid evidence, such as requirements for using intel and anything else relating to the performance been shown that could prove or disprove my question?

Also, could overclocking potentially remove bottle necking on the new GPU.

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2 minutes ago, Ladicius said:

So, I am currently running a stock 8350, system specs in my user tag.

Is there any solid evidence, such as requirements for using intel and anything else relating to the performance been shown that could prove or disprove my question?

Also, could overclocking potentially remove bottle necking on the new GPU.

we don't know yet but there may be a bottleneck

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At 4K it would probably be fine, 1440p would probably bottleneck and 1080p would just be wasting gpu power. Just my guess as we don't have benchmarks yet.

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Even with overclocking, there will be a slight bottleneck, since even the 970 (Oops meant 1070) is equivalent to a Titan X. However, it wouldn't be that terrible with a 1070, especially if you can get a decent overclock. If you wanted to get a 1080, though, I would definitely recommend upgrading to a Haswell or Skylake i5 (even something like an i5 6500 would give quite a speed boost)

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Btw since this relates to the comment on resolution, I'm running 2 monitors with a plan to get one more and each of them are 1080p ips displays.

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2 minutes ago, Megahurt said:

At 4K it would probably be fine, 1440p would probably bottleneck and 1080p would just be wasting gpu power. Just my guess as we don't have benchmarks yet.

I don't understand this logic. The CPU bottleneck would still be there, and you still wouldn't be neutralizing it by choking the GPU from running at 2160p.

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1 minute ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

I don't understand this logic. The CPU bottleneck would still be there, and you still wouldn't be neutralizing it by choking the GPU from running at 2160p.

Resolution has nothing to do with the cpu, so let's say the cpu could push 75 fps at the ultra preset. The gpu can push 60 fps at 4k, so it runs at 60 fps and you never run into the cpu bottleneck. At 1440p, the gpu can push 90 fps, so you run into the CPU's limit of 75, but it's not a big deal. And finally, at 1080p the gpu could push 120 fps, but you're limited by the cpu's 75, wasting a good chunk of the gpu's available power.

 

In practice, the load varies on both the gpu and cpu, so at some points you could be cpu limited and at other times gpu limited within the same game.

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1 minute ago, Megahurt said:

Resolution has nothing to do with the cpu, so let's say the cpu could push 75 fps at the ultra preset. The gpu can push 60 fps at 4k, so it runs at 60 fps and you never run into the cpu bottleneck. At 1440p, the gpu can push 90 fps, so you run into the CPU's limit of 75, but it's not a big deal. And finally, at 1080p the gpu could push 120 fps, but you're limited by the cpu's 75, wasting a good chunk of the gpu's available power.

 

In practice, the load varies on both the gpu and cpu, so at some points you could be cpu limited and at other times gpu limited within the same game.

ah, that makes a bit more sense

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46 minutes ago, Megahurt said:

Resolution has nothing to do with the cpu, so let's say the cpu could push 75 fps at the ultra preset. The gpu can push 60 fps at 4k, so it runs at 60 fps and you never run into the cpu bottleneck. At 1440p, the gpu can push 90 fps, so you run into the CPU's limit of 75, but it's not a big deal. And finally, at 1080p the gpu could push 120 fps, but you're limited by the cpu's 75, wasting a good chunk of the gpu's available power.

 

In practice, the load varies on both the gpu and cpu, so at some points you could be cpu limited and at other times gpu limited within the same game.

Wait... you just contradicted yourself there. It does have an impact because the lower the resolution, the more active your processor becomes. Essentially making the GPU work less forces more of the burden onto your CPU, so in a very direct manner the resolution very much DOES have to do with the CPU as a whole.

 

I see what's being said, but you worded that wrongly. Resolution does have to do with the CPU. Quite heavily in fact.

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1 hour ago, Imglidinhere said:

Wait... you just contradicted yourself there. It does have an impact because the lower the resolution, the more active your processor becomes. Essentially making the GPU work less forces more of the burden onto your CPU, so in a very direct manner the resolution very much DOES have to do with the CPU as a whole.

 

I see what's being said, but you worded that wrongly. Resolution does have to do with the CPU. Quite heavily in fact.

No ... cpu has to do with fps, but not resolution, the potential fps a cpu can provide doesn't change with resolution, it does change with the gpu.

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2 hours ago, Ladicius said:

So, I am currently running a stock 8350, system specs in my user tag.

Is there any solid evidence, such as requirements for using intel and anything else relating to the performance been shown that could prove or disprove my question?

Also, could overclocking potentially remove bottle necking on the new GPU.

your CPU is not fast enough for such high-end graphics cards...i had the FX-8320 overclocked to 4.6ghz and in many games it was having a hard time keeping above even 40FPS...it was paired with a GTX 780 at 1080p gaming and the CPU was already being a limitation for that card in many games (not every game).

So, if your goal is to do for example...4K @ 30 to 50FPS...it will be fine...but if you want 1080p or 1440p at 80FPS+ then your CPU will be in the way more often than not.

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27 minutes ago, Megahurt said:

No ... cpu has to do with fps, but not resolution, the potential fps a cpu can provide doesn't change with resolution, it does change with the gpu.

Yes it does. You just proved it does. You end up limiting the FPS due to the bottleneck that the CPU creates by lowering the resolution. It's a side-effect of doing another thing, but it very much DOES.

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Your next upgrade should be your crappy CPU,  not your 970.

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20 hours ago, ivan134 said:

Your next upgrade should be your crappy CPU,  not your 970.

It's in no way a terrible CPU especially for the price so crappy is a bit of a harsh word but yes I am planning to upgrade it to an i5 skylake unless I can get an i7 on a deal in the next few months.

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