My build

[Elishah98]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BWVWYJ my build i think is done but unsure. I have an nzxt h440 case and a 250gb Samsung 850evo ssd. The cooler is overkill but mostly for looks and price isn't to bad to me. I really only need help with the mobo and ram, I'm not sure of a good mobo or ram so help would be great. With ram I would like 2x4gb and motherboard obviously has to go with the i5-6500. I'll mostly use this for gaming and typical streaming. Also the gpu, the sapphire r9 390 seems a bit to expensive to me but idk, anything as good as it that doesn't cost $550 or whatever it cost? 

[Aytex]

I would advice holding off for a graphics card until actual real life benchmarks come out for Pascal or Polaris's release

[Marcseli]

are you going to overclock?

 

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, Elishah98 said:

 

Not worth buying a 120mm AIO, just get a hyper 212 man

 

you could save cash on this motherboard

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-b150mprovd

 

also try this PSU
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-210gq0650

[Elishah98]

25 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Not worth buying a 120mm AIO, just get a hyper 212 man

 

you could save cash on this motherboard

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-b150mprovd

 

also try this PSU
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-210gq0650

Like I said it's not about price for the cpu cooler, id much rather have it look better than go with something cheaper. I hate the big heatsinks. Also I don't like micro atx boards, and psu isn't to bad 

[Elishah98]

28 minutes ago, Marcseli said:

are you going to overclock?

 

Probably not

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, Elishah98 said:

Like I said it's not about price for the cpu cooler, id much rather have it look better than go with something cheaper. I hate the big heatsinks. Also I don't like micro atx boards, and psu isn't to bad 

You're going to spend $40 more for relatively the same performance? at least buy a 240mm AIO man

 

and are you going to use the features the H170 board gives you? Because if you save money on your CPU cooler, and on the motherboard, you almost have enough money to upgrade to an i7 6700

[Elishah98]

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

You're going to spend $40 more for relatively the same performance? at least buy a 240mm AIO man

 

and are you going to use the features the H170 board gives you? Because if you save money on your CPU cooler, and on the motherboard, you almost have enough money to upgrade to an i7 6700

Well with the cooler I just don't want a huge ass heat sink so if you can recommend anything then yeah I'll end up spending $40 extra. With the motherboard I really don't know much about them besides I don't think a micro atx will look good in my mid tower h440, and I don't know what features the h170 have, I just picked a board 

[Streetguru]

33 minutes ago, Elishah98 said:

 

Must move past aesthetics. Why pay extra for the motherboard when you won't even use the extra features it gives you?

H110 and B150 are going to end up being more than enough for most people, H170 just adds some extra PCI-e over them mostly among other things
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Z170-H170-H110-B170-Q150-Q170---What-is-the-Difference-635/

If anything like save up to do a custom water loop or something, at least that's fairly functional in terms of cooling performance. Though then you'd want a Z170 board with a 6600K I guess, though that's not exactly worth it for 60hz gaming

 

Also you're going to want to probably wait for polaris pascal over buying a $300 GPU now, as you'll end up with at least around 20% more performance for the same price in 2 months or so somewhere around the level of a 980ti for $300 basically

[Shahnewaz]

Umm, don't you already have a thread about your build planning here?

[Elishah98]

13 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Must move past aesthetics. Why pay extra for the motherboard when you won't even use the extra features it gives you?

H110 and B150 are going to end up being more than enough for most people, H170 just adds some extra PCI-e over them
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Z170-H170-H110-B170-Q150-Q170---What-is-the-Difference-635/

If anything like save up to do a custom water loop or something, at least that's fairly functional in terms of cooling performance. Though then you'd want a Z170 board with a 6600K I guess, though that's not exactly worth it for 60hz gaming

 

Also you're going to want to probably wait for polaris pascal over buying a $300 GPU now, as you'll end up with at least around 20% more performance for the same price in 2 months or so somewhere around the level of a 980ti for $300 basically

There's no way I'm waiting 2 months for a gpu, I don't have a pc and I'm not waiting that long for one 

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Elishah98 said:

There's no way I'm waiting 2 months for a gpu, I don't have a pc and I'm not waiting that long for one 

So then maybe buy a mid range GPU, you never what display you were using, is it only 1080p 60hz? Because then you'd be fine with like a 370 even, it should be a bit cheaper than the 950

[Elishah98]

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

So then maybe buy a mid range GPU, you never what display you were using, is it only 1080p 60hz? Because then you'd be fine with like a 370 even, it should be a bit cheaper than the 950

What about a 970? I currently only have a 1080p 60hz tv but I plan on getting dual monitors soon, not sure what tho

Edited May 9, 2016 by Elishah98
Idk

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Elishah98 said:

What about a 970? I currently only have a 1080p 60hz tv but I plan on getting dual monitors soon, not sure what tho

the 390 would be faster at the same price overall, especially factoring in DX12

 

can't really game on just 2 displays, and adding the extra display doesn't require any real extra performance, nor does it hamper performance.

Also you should probably get an adaptive sync display of some kind, though with Nvidia you have to use G-sync which is literally the same thing when both are working 100%, but more expensive.

 

Both below are TN displays, just good for gaming mostly

 

$209 for 1080p 144hz free-sync, normally $250

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-g2460pf

$350 for the G-sync version

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-g2460pg

[Elishah98]

11 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

the 390 would be faster at the same price overall, especially factoring in DX12

 

can't really game on just 2 displays, and adding the extra display doesn't require any real extra performance, nor does it hamper performance.

Also you should probably get an adaptive sync display of some kind, though with Nvidia you have to use G-sync which is literally the same thing when both are working 100%, but more expensive.

 

Both below are TN displays, just good for gaming mostly

 

$209 for 1080p 144hz free-sync, normally $250

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-g2460pf

$350 for the G-sync version

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-g2460pg

Which 390 are you referring to? The sapphire r9 390 is the best one but its $550 and the gtx 970 is like $350. Also I'm not to familiar with displays I just know I want two monitors, one for gaming the other for help with streaming/whatever I want as far as Twitter or browsing the web 

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Elishah98 said:

Which 390 are you referring to? The sapphire r9 390 is the best one but its $550 and the gtx 970 is like $350. Also I'm not to familiar with displays I just know I want two monitors, one for gaming the other for help with streaming/whatever I want as far as Twitter or browsing the web 

You'll probably want a 1080p 144hz display then, it won't have the color reproduction of IPS, but you get the bonus refresh rate

But what do you mean the 390 costs $550 aren't you in the US? there really isn't a best 390, just some with poor coolers like from gigabyte, otherwise it should cost the same as a 970 and save you 100 bucks on the display, and give you more performance, especially in DX12

[Elishah98]

18 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

You'll probably want a 1080p 144hz display then, it won't have the color reproduction of IPS, but you get the bonus refresh rate

But what do you mean the 390 costs $550 aren't you in the US? there really isn't a best 390, just some with poor coolers like from gigabyte, otherwise it should cost the same as a 970 and save you 100 bucks on the display, and give you more performance, especially in DX12

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814202185 first time I've seen this one, the one I've been looking at on newegg from sapphire nitro is like $569 or something. Yeah 1080p 144hz seems best to me 

Edited May 9, 2016 by Elishah98
Idk

[Streetguru]

15 minutes ago, Elishah98 said:

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814202185 first time I've seen this one, the one I've been looking at on newegg from sapphire nitro is like $569 or something. Yeah 1080p 144hz seems best to me 

That's a 390X, I'm seeing it for 389, maybe you saw it on the canadian newegg or something

 

probably worth it to get a 380 and just put that money towards a higher end Polaris GPU sometime this year, a 380 4gb will do 1080p pretty well, though obviously not at maxxed out graphical settings

[Elishah98]

3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

That's a 390X, I'm seeing it for 389, maybe you saw it on the canadian newegg or something

 

probably worth it to get a 380 and just put that money towards a higher end Polaris GPU sometime this year, a 380 4gb will do 1080p pretty well, though obviously not at maxxed out graphical settings

Can you send a link to the 390? Also I'm not to sure of the games I'll be playing but CS go is one for sure, will the 380 be good enough  to last until pascal releases? Also are the pascals going to even be good or is that just rumors? 

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Elishah98 said:

Can you send a link to the 390? Also I'm not to sure of the games I'll be playing but CS go is one for sure, will the 380 be good enough  to last until pascal releases? Also are the pascals going to even be good or is that just rumors? 

pascal is likely 20% faster than a 980ti with the 1080 in general gaming, and much faster in VR because of some new tech on the card

 

did you mean CS:GO? Is that like the main game you'll be playing? a 380 can easily run that at 144fps

 

390 $304 on amazon, same price on newegg as well

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZUWD8LQ/?tag=pcpapi-20

And here's the 380

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr93804gbd5ppdhe

Review of the free-sync display linked earlier

 

[Elishah98]

7 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

pascal is likely 20% faster than a 980ti with the 1080 in general gaming, and much faster in VR because of some new tech on the card

 

did you mean CS:GO? Is that like the main game you'll be playing? a 380 can easily run that at 144fps

 

390 $304 on amazon, same price on newegg as well

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZUWD8LQ/?tag=pcpapi-20

And here's the 380

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr93804gbd5ppdhe

Review of the free-sync display linked earlier

 

Any reason for power color? Never really heard of them. Can you send me a link on pascal? not really sure what to look up. So guess I'll go with a 380, what about a cpu, you think the i5-6500 is good? 

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, Elishah98 said:

Any reason for power color? Never really heard of them. Can you send me a link on pascal? not really sure what to look up. So guess I'll go with a 380, what about a cpu, you think the i5-6500 is good? 

Just go to performance, from nvidia's own thing, they keep comparing it to the 980 instead of the 980ti, which is going to end up in the middle of the 1080 here and the 980, meaning it's probably 20-30% faster at best
 

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1080

The i5 6500 is alright, but as you're now saving money on your GPU, you can easily afford the i7 6700 upgrade which would last you basically forever with 8 threads clocked at 4ghz turbo, and seriously either buy a better 240mm radiator, or just use like a low profile heat sink or something, 120mm AIOs really aren't much better than just a standard air heat sink

[Elishah98]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Just go to performance, from nvidia's own thing, they keep comparing it to the 980 instead of the 980ti, which is going to end up in the middle of the 1080 here and the 980, meaning it's probably 20-30% faster at best
 

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1080

The i5 6500 is alright, but as you're now saving money on your GPU, you can easily afford the i7 6700 upgrade which would last you basically forever, and seriously either buy a better 240mm radiator, or just use like a low profile heat sink or something, 120mm AIOs really aren't much better than just a standard air heat sink

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QdMCpg bought a Samsung 850 Evo 250gb ssd today btw. What do you think about this build? Is 2x8gb to much or should I drop it to 2x4gb? 

[Streetguru]

22 minutes ago, Elishah98 said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QdMCpg bought a Samsung 850 Evo 250gb ssd today btw. What do you think about this build? Is 2x8gb to much or should I drop it to 2x4gb? 

16gbs of RAM is fine, will not to have to upgrade for the forseeable future, but there's no point in spending more for faster RAM as it hardly makes any difference for 99% of workloads

 

but there's no reason to buy a Z170 motherboard with a locked CPU

If you just want for whatever reason an ATX motherboard, I guess get a fatal1ty board, they're reasonably priced and filled with gimmicky features that may or may not help with gaming, though this one lacks USB 3.1 even though it has a type C connector

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157638&cm_re=1151_Fatal1ty-_-13-157-638-_-Product

[Elishah98]

2 hours ago, Streetguru said:

16gbs of RAM is fine, will not to have to upgrade for the forseeable future, but there's no point in spending more for faster RAM as it hardly makes any difference for 99% of workloads

 

but there's no reason to buy a Z170 motherboard with a locked CPU

If you just want for whatever reason an ATX motherboard, I guess get a fatal1ty board, they're reasonably priced and filled with gimmicky features that may or may not help with gaming, though this one lacks USB 3.1 even though it has a type C connector

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157638&cm_re=1151_Fatal1ty-_-13-157-638-_-Product

My case has usb 3.0, will it be able to connect to this motherboard or does the motherboard need to have usb 3.0?