Swap 970 for 390?

[Doughnutnator]

Hi! I'm building a PC for a friend, and he has a pretty beefy budget that allows him to get 970/390 with a nice i5.

 

I have a G1 Gaming 970 (it goes up to 1560 with OC, kinda decent card). I have the possibility to tell him: Hey, get the 390 and i'll give you my 970 for it. In my country the G1 970 costs more than a Nitro 390.

 

Obviously i'm not going to ask money for it, and if he accepts, I will not charge him for building his PC, install Windows and that stuff.

 

Do you think is a nice idea to give it a shot?

Thanks

[Starelementpoke]

2 minutes ago, Doughnutnator said:

Hi! I'm building a PC for a friend, and he has a pretty beefy budget that allows him to get 970/390 with a nice i5.

 

I have a G1 Gaming 970. I have the possibility to tell him: Hey, get the 390 and i'll give you my 970 for it. In my country the G1 970 costs more than a Nitro 390.

 

Obviously i'm not going to ask money for it, and if he accepts, I will not charge him for building his PC, install Windows and that stuff.

 

Do you think is a nice idea to give it a shot?

Thanks

I mean, that´s practically a side grade either way. If he doesn´t mind why not?

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

I'd only give it a shot only IF my friend knows about the current situation of the 970, 390, Nvidia and AMD. 

[Doughnutnator]

Just now, Starelementpoke said:

I mean, that´s practically a side grade either way. If he doesn´t mind why not?

Thanks. Will I see better performance or i'm better off staying with the kinda heavy-OCed 970? I play at 1080p.

[Starelementpoke]

Just now, Doughnutnator said:

Thanks. Will I see better performance or i'm better off staying with the kinda heavy-OCed 970? I play at 1080p.

I mean, assuming you also OC the 390, it´ll be very similar.

[Doughnutnator]

1 minute ago, Pohernori said:

I'd only give it a shot only IF my friend knows about the current situation of the 970, 390, Nvidia and AMD. 

He doesn't give a damn about it tbh, and I don't want to scam him, that's why I would build his PC "for free".

He would play lots of Nvidia-optimized titles. 

[TheRandomness]

Give it a shot as the 390 and 970 perform basically the same in DX11 titles whereas the 390 performs slightly better in DX12 titles.

[Unhelpful]

Either way it's a sidegrade since they perform similarly, with the 390 usually coming out a bit ahead.

[Darel321]

get the 390 its gonna be better with dx12

[Teddy07]

would be an easy 390 pick for in terms of gaming

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

12 minutes ago, Doughnutnator said:

He doesn't give a damn about it tbh, and I don't want to scam him, that's why I would build his PC "for free".

He would play lots of Nvidia-optimized titles. 

 

Thing is, he will be getting a used card. Why would anyone trade out a brand new one for a used card? You'll need loads of persuasion to get him to trade with you.  

Doesn't matter if he's playing nvidia title since all you need to do is turn off gameworks. 

 

Still, tell your friend about the current situation of the cards, the companies and all the buzz it is about them. That way, he can make an informed choice and that you won't have to feel like scamming him since if the deal goes through, he'll end up with a used card that he paid more for. 

[dreamhacking]

5 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

Thing is, he will be getting a used card. Why would anyone trade out a brand new one for a used card? You'll need loads of persuasion to get him to trade with you.  

Doesn't matter if he's playing nvidia title since all you need to do is turn off gameworks. 

This is true. But OP is building his friend's PC for free with a used 970 for a brand new 390. 

In his friend's perspective, maybe he thinks this is fair enough. We won't know until OP update us on what his friend thinks. 

[Unhelpful]

15 minutes ago, Doughnutnator said:

He doesn't give a damn about it tbh, and I don't want to scam him, that's why I would build his PC "for free".

He would play lots of Nvidia-optimized titles. 

Kinda sounds like you're trying to rationalize it. He would be getting a used card that is a worse performer. Doesn't matter if he's playing nvidia titles, you can just turn off gameworks.

[Doughnutnator]

23 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

Kinda sounds like you're trying to rationalize it. He would be getting a used card that is a worse performer. Doesn't matter if he's playing nvidia titles, you can just turn off gameworks.

I'm trying to make a good decision. I know the 970 can be a worse performer, but luckily my 970 can OC to stock-980 levels.

I want to get the 390 for the VRAM mostly, since I will need it for college (AutoCAD and stuff). I got very lucky with the 970, I bought it when it came out for $310 USD, brand new in a good store, then I RMA'd for a minor issue 7 months ago and I got a new 970 that has a good ASCI score. So I can ramp up the clockspeeds to 1560Mhz and 8Ghz memory.

 

Right now a new G1 970 costs $416 (currency fell down in my country), just a bit more than a Nitro 390. Even used 970's costs more than what I paid for mine brand new.

 

I know that the 390 sometimes pulls ahead (and it seems that it's going to get better with DX12), but a heavily OCed 970 and a good 390 are almost neck to neck in benchmarks. I haven't said anything to my friend. His budget is like $1100 and I would build his PC for free. That means, put it together, install Windows, games, drivers etc because he doesn't know and he doesn't want to know.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

4 minutes ago, Doughnutnator said:

I'm trying to make a good decision. I know the 970 can be a worse performer, but luckily my 970 can OC to stock-980 levels.

I want to get the 390 for the VRAM mostly, since I will need it for college (AutoCAD and stuff). I got very lucky with the 970, I bought it when it came out for $310 USD, brand new in a good store, then I RMA'd for a minor issue 7 months ago and I got a new 970 that has a good ASCI score. So I can ramp up the clockspeeds to 1560Mhz and 8Ghz memory.

 

Right now a new G1 970 costs $416 (currency fell down in my country), just a bit more than a Nitro 390. Even used 970's costs more than what I paid for mine brand new.

 

I know that the 390 sometimes pulls ahead (and it seems that it's going to get better with DX12), but a heavily OCed 970 and a good 390 are almost neck to neck in benchmarks. I haven't said anything to my friend. His budget is like $1100 and I would build his PC for free. That means, put it together, install Windows, games, drivers etc because he doesn't know and he doesn't want to know.

 

How much are you charging your friend? 

[Doughnutnator]

1 minute ago, Pohernori said:

 

How much are you charging your friend? 

I charge like 30-35 bucks for building a PC, install Windows, Office, Antivirus, drivers, games etc... (Usually less for friends)

[don_svetlio]

1 hour ago, Doughnutnator said:

He doesn't give a damn about it tbh, and I don't want to scam him, that's why I would build his PC "for free".

He would play lots of Nvidia-optimized titles. 

Basically, the 390 will last significantly longer so if you are upgrading soon then don't scam him

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

36 minutes ago, Doughnutnator said:

I charge like 30-35 bucks for building a PC, install Windows, Office, Antivirus, drivers, games etc... (Usually less for friends)

 

Wow that much just for that? 

[dreamhacking]

8 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

Wow that much just for that? 

i think his price is cheap for USD ... 

i charge people from $50 - $100 CAD for building a PC and installing software 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

1 minute ago, dreamhacking said:

i think his price is cheap for USD ... 

i charge people from $50 - $100 CAD for building a PC and installing software 

 

What? We don't even charge $10 usd here LOL. 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Pohernori said:

 

What? We don't even charge $10 usd here LOL. 

I do it for free ._.

[dreamhacking]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

I do it for free ._.

free for friends ...

how about other people that ask you to provide the building service?

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, dreamhacking said:

free for friends ...

how about other people that ask you to provide the building service?

Considering that the local services mostly rip them off or break half the shit in the process, I try to help out as much as I can - the most I get is a free coffee.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

I do it for free ._.

 

You're not alone. I plan, build and setup the computer for free. I'm more than happy that someone asks for my help. 

 

Merchants I know would just charge at most $20 for it. And free if they buy the whole system from them.