Ram Compatibility Check

[Axian]

Wanted to just check and make sure for my build that a kit of 2 8 gig hyper x fury sticks @ 2133 mhz ( 288 pin dimm) would be compatible with a Asus Maximus viii Hero Alpha Motherboard. 

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Axian said:

Wanted to just check and make sure for my build that a kit of 2 8 gig hyper x fury sticks @ 2133 mhz ( 288 pin dimm) would be compatible with a Asus Maximus viii Hero Alpha Motherboard. 

Well is the motherboard DDR4?

Also why such a high end Z170 board over going X99?

[DXMember]

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/MAXIMUS_VIII_HERO_ALPHA/M8HA_One_Page_Full_QVL-112315.pdf

[Axian]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Well is the motherboard DDR4?

Also why such a high end Z170 board over going X99?

Motherboard supports it based off of pc part picker, but Got scared by a review on newegg about making sure to double check compatibility so i figured i'd be safe and triple check. As far as why z170 over x99 i figured z170 would better suite my needs of gaming and something abit more future proof based off of a thread i made here and other similar threads. 

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Axian said:

Motherboard supports it based off of pc part picker, but Got scared by a review on newegg about making sure to double check compatibility so i fig

Future proofing isn't real, aside from your case, and a 5820K would cost nearly the same and give you more performance

 

Skylake makes a lot more sense with an i7 6700 and a lower end motherboard like one of the MSI boards, total would be under $400, and then you could put that money into a better display/GPU ect, which makes a lot more sense to go for over say an i7 6700K and a high end board with a higher end cooler.

[Axian]

2 minutes ago, DXMember said:

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/MAXIMUS_VIII_HERO_ALPHA/M8HA_One_Page_Full_QVL-112315.pdf

Thanks,i remember seeing a page similar to this for another board before but couldn't fine one for the alpha. Looks like they're not compatible  thanks again though ill use this going forward.

[DXMember]

Just now, Axian said:

Thanks,i remember seeing a page similar to this for another board before but couldn't fine one for the alpha. Looks like they're not compatible  thanks again though ill use this going forward.

Kingston is running at JEDEC standard, they are always compatible...

[Axian]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Future proofing isn't real, aside from your case, and a 5820K would cost nearly the same and give you more performance

 

Skylake makes a lot more sense with an i7 6700 and a lower end motherboard like one of the MSI boards, total would be under $400, and then you could put that money into a better display/GPU ect, which makes a lot more sense to go for over say an i7 6700K and a high end board with a higher end cooler.

Maybe not fully proof but the goal for my pc is to make it last 4 years if possible before upgrading. Case is fine but for cpu idk the per clock speeds of 6700k is really apealling even at 4 cores because ill be mostly doing high end all ultra graphics for as long as possible. Plus newer architecture may give me better options for the future.

 

[Axian]

2 minutes ago, DXMember said:

Kingston is running at JEDEC standard, they are always compatible...

Weird, didn't see that ram model ( hx421c14fb2k2/16) on the sheet but as long as you're sure ill lock it in on my build, just wanna make sure i don't waste 70$ on ram that's incompatible but it did seem weird that that big of a brand wasn't on there in more than 3-4 entries.

 

[DXMember]

2 minutes ago, Axian said:

Weird, didn't see that ram model ( hx421c14fb2k2/16) on the sheet but as long as you're sure ill lock it in on my build, just wanna make sure i don't waste 70$ on ram that's incompatible but it did seem weird that that big of a brand wasn't on there in more than 3-4 entries.

 

they put on the list only the kits that run outside JEDEC standard specification

still... why are you going with such a crazy expensive board, and i5 and the cheapest possible memory?

[Axian]

Just now, DXMember said:

they put on the list only the kits that run outside JEDEC standard specification

Oh okay awesome, well i should be good to go then thanks again!

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, Axian said:

Maybe not fully proof but the goal for my pc is to make it last 4 years if possible before upgrading. Case is fine but for cpu idk the per clock speeds of 6700k is really apealling even at 4 cores because ill be mostly doing high end all ultra graphics for as long as possible. Plus newer architecture may give me better options for the future.

 

But the i7 6700 already turbos to 4ghz, at best you're only going to gain 10-15% CPU performance for hundreds of dollars, which isn't needed especially if you're only running a 60hz display and not doing any streaming.

[Axian]

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

But the i7 6700 already turbos to 4ghz, at best you're only going to gain 10-15% CPU performance for hundreds of dollars, which isn't needed especially if you're only running a 60hz display and not doing any streaming.

Fair enough, what about for a 1440p 144hz with gsync montior then? Build wise im including the nvidia 1080 and whatever better than pq279q asus gsync montior comes out at computex which follow the 1440p 144hz trend, so for 4 years then do you think x99 5820k would still be sufficent?

[Streetguru]

7 minutes ago, Axian said:

Fair enough, what about for a 1440p 144hz then gsync montior then? Build wise im including the nvidia 1080 and whatever better than pq279q asus gsync montior comes out at computex which follow the 1440p 144hz trend, so for 4 years then do you think x99 5820k would still be sufficent?

possibly, but it's not going to be too big a difference overall

 

Also you should go AMD man, you'd save $200 on the display alone, and a leaked fire strike reports that the Polaris 10 GPU is a mid range GPU($300 ish) with the performance around a 980ti, probably mostly BS though but still.

 

1440p 144hz IPS Free-sync(30-144hz) $550

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-xf270hu

 

G-sync $750

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-xb271hubmiprz

So 200 bucks there, 200 bucks saved with the i7 6700, and you suddenly have a spare 400 bucks or so.

 

 

and ya a 5820K is a pretty solid investment if you're doing more than gaming, you get a better motherboard with tons of options and a 6 core CPU that makes a lot more sense to OC than a 6700K, as the 5820K only turbos to 3.6ghz.

 

what was your build/budget/country?

[Axian]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

possibly, but it's not going to be too big a difference overall

 

Also you should go AMD man, you'd save $200 on the display alone, and a leaked fire strike reports that the Polaris 10 GPU is a mid range GPU($300 ish) with the performance around a 980ti

 

1440p 144hz IPS Free-sync(30-144hz) $550

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-xf270hu

 

G-sync $750

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-xb271hubmiprz

So 200 bucks there, 200 bucks saved with the i7 6700, and you suddenly have a spare 400 bucks or so.

 

 

and ya a 5820K is a pretty solid investment if you're doing more than gaming, you get a better motherboard with tons of options and a 6 core CPU that makes a lot more sense to OC than a 6700K, as the 5820K only turbos to 3.6ghz.

Eh idk i just like nvidia more personally, plus g sync monitors such as things like the aforementioned pg279q (aside from the QC issues and thus waiting till new ones at computex) really catch my eye and i like them more style wise. Also while the polaris 10 may have the performance of a 980 ti one of the new pascals is supposed to have performance around 50% more than that of the 980 ti given the leap we seem to be getting in gpus this years with things like 16nm finfet and more transistors as a standard (8 billion i beleive was leaked for pascal). With that said im really only going to be high quality gaming on the computer for the next 4 years, no interest or potential really for me to do video editing or rendering so, atleast from the threads ive read and have posted it seems like the z170/6700k is the best fit for my needs.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Axian said:

Eh idk i just like nvidia more personally, plus g sync monitors such as things like the aforementioned pg279q (aside from the QC issues and thus

But with that 400 bucks saved you could almost fit in dual Fury cards which actually keep up with 980tis due to AMD's better scaling with GPUs and higher resolutions. You can still OC the 980tis to beat them out but still. would hold true for the future as well. Plus all the consoles again will have AMD hardware, and you'd want to wait and see if nvidia fixes their DX12 issues with pascal.

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2947547/components-graphics/amd-radeon-fury-crossfire-review-2-fast-2-furious.html

[Axian]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

But with that 400 bucks saved you could almost fit in dual Fury cards which actually keep up with 980tis due to AMD's better scaling with GPUs and higher resolutions. You can still OC the 980tis to beat them out but still. would hold true for the future as well. Plus all the consoles again will have AMD hardware, and you'd want to wait and see if nvidia fixes their DX12 issues with pascal.

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2947547/components-graphics/amd-radeon-fury-crossfire-review-2-fast-2-furious.html

To my understanding Pascal is optimized for DX12, also even with dual fury cards the 1080 pascal equivalent of 980 ti which is coming out soon still performs 50% better and is at a price point where it is just as affordable as a 980 ti while still allowing me to have a g-sync monitor and fit nicely into my budget. As far as performance goes in this case given my needs it seems like nvidia 1080 and a 6700k/z170 setup would be a better fit and frankly im fine with spending that extra 400$ for personal peace of mind and preference of brand/performance/style.

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Axian said:

a 6700k/z170 setup would be a better fit and frankly im fine with spending that extra 400$ for personal peace of mind and preference of brand/performance/style.

But it's a waste of money, you could just buy a higher end GPU with the money saved on the free-sync display. and if you're just gaming you'd be fine with even just a 6600K

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, AlexTheRose said:

Lol, I don’t think everyone really puts price-to-performance at the forefront of their spending habits. And it’s not necessarily a bad thing that they don’t.

Ya but you could easily get better of X hardware, or even like do a custom water cooling kit with all that money saved.

[Axian]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

But it's a waste of money, you could just buy a higher end GPU with the money saved on the free-sync display. and if you're just gaming you'd be fine with even just a 6600K

eh quality and performance wise nvidia is just a personal preference, also given I'll be buying the pascal 980 ti equivalant and for the same price as a 980 ti which still runs better than the dual r9's at the same overall price it seems like a mute point. I'd rather put he money towards a good sync 1440p 144hz monitor aND a pascal 1080 which outputs the same if not better quality than dual r9's/ a Polaris gpu on a z170 w/ 6700k rather than putting the exact same total amount on a chipset which doesn't suit my needs, a monitor I don't perfer as much, and a gpu which underperformes comparatively.

[Axian]

21 minutes ago, AlexTheRose said:

Except he doesn’t want to do that. He even said so multiple times.

[Axian]

51 minutes ago, DXMember said:

they put on the list only the kits that run outside JEDEC standard specification

still... why are you going with such a crazy expensive board, and i5 and the cheapest possible memory?

Board seems built well for longevity or add ons, going with an i7 6700k and I wasn't aware that was super cheap memory, just seemed like a good ddr4 kit from Kingston, ram is ram.

[Axian]

25 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Ya but you could easily get better of X hardware, or even like do a custom water cooling kit with all that money saved.

yah I'm a first time builder running on days of research, i'm going with a noctua d 15 cpu cooler because it fits my needs of longevity better and requires less maintenance and equal or better cooling of an air, God forbid custom watercooling. As far as the "better" hardware of x or y that's a matter of opinion considering the same amount of money is spent in the end.

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, Axian said:

 

Assuming you were to save that money you could throw it into various other places such as a better display like a 21:9 1440p display or 4k display. Or just save it up because PC hardware is always changing and you get more for your money down the line.

 

also forgot he just made this one lol

 

 

[Axian]

7 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Assuming you were to save that money you could throw it into various other places such as a better display like a 21:9 1440p display or 4k display. Or just save it up because PC hardware is always changing and you get more for your money down the line

 

right but that's assuming I chose to save it by going with a less effective gpu. Your suggestion totaled to the same amount it was just placed elsewhere. Ultimately I'm happy with my budget, gpu, monitor, cooler, ram etc. the only other question is the cpu and chipset but as far as pure gaming goes it seems like i7 6700k would be my best bet. Also for future proofing it's just me trying to get my pc to last as long as possible with my specifications ( high fps, good quality graphics eventually degrading over years, etc.) but nothings future proof, simply future resistant and for my purposes that build seems to suit me well.