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Hi guys, 

 

I recently benchmarked my current gaming laptop after not being satisfied anymore about it's performance on heavier games. My MSI leopard pro benchmarked 24 fps at F1 2015 at ultra settings an latest drivers. 32 FPS at high settings and 40 FPS at medium settings (which suck). Now I would want to build a better pc for the heavier games. I'm researching diffrent options and possibilities to solve my question? 

 

I can't find an clear answer myself as an novice pc builder and enthousiast. 

 

My current laptop has the following specifications: 

 

I7 5700HQ 2.7 ghz (boost 3.5 ghz)

8gb ram ddr3 
128 GB SSD
1TB HDD

GTX 950M 2GB DDR3 

 

The games i mostly play are racing games an Fifa (if it helps you guys)
 

It seems the biggest bottleneck from my laptop is the graphics card since www.gpuboss.com says a 750ti is already a better performer than the 950m. 

 

Which complete setup (CPU, GPU, RAM, MOBO, storage) would you guys advise for me as a novice. 

 

The budget i have is around €1000 (netherlands) and I don't prefer AMD, intel etc.  

 

I've already been advised on this forum to wait for the new graphics card from the vendors but i also would like advise for which platform of cpu? 

 

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1 hour ago, RJ1993 said:

Hi guys, 

 

I recently benchmarked my current gaming laptop after not being satisfied anymore about it's performance on heavier games. My MSI leopard pro benchmarked 24 fps at F1 2015 at ultra settings an latest drivers. 32 FPS at high settings and 40 FPS at medium settings (which suck). Now I would want to build a better pc for the heavier games. I'm researching diffrent options and possibilities to solve my question? 

 

I can't find an clear answer myself as an novice pc builder and enthousiast. 

 

My current laptop has the following specifications: 

 

I7 5700HQ 2.7 ghz (boost 3.5 ghz)

8gb ram ddr3 
128 GB SSD
1TB HDD

GTX 950M 2GB DDR3 

 

The games i mostly play are racing games an Fifa (if it helps you guys)
 

It seems the biggest bottleneck from my laptop is the graphics card since www.gpuboss.com says a 750ti is already a better performer than the 950m. 

 

Which complete setup (CPU, GPU, RAM, MOBO, storage) would you guys advise for me as a novice. 

 

The budget i have is around €1000 (netherlands) and I don't prefer AMD, intel etc.  

 

I've already been advised on this forum to wait for the new graphics card from the vendors but i also would like advise for which platform of cpu? 

 

Already thanks for you knowledge 

id say zen, if rumors are true, will be better than intel

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19 minutes ago, RJ1993 said:

 

Then this, includes a 144hz Free-sync display, unless you already had a high end display, would be TN, but fine for gaming

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZK79qs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZK79qs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€201.56 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€70.22 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (€36.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€50.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (€187.86 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€66.37 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: AOC G2460PF 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  (€259.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €953.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-26 07:34 CEST+0200

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Then this, includes a 144hz Free-sync display, unless you already had a high end display, would be TN, but fine for gaming

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZK79qs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZK79qs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€201.56 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€70.22 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (€36.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€50.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  (€187.86 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€66.37 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: AOC G2460PF 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  (€259.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €953.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Don't you think i can get a better graphics card and use a old display (just an 23 inch hdmi hd led tv) or does the 144 hz really make a big difference?

 

And thank you for the quick parts list;)

 

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5 minutes ago, RJ1993 said:

Don't you think i can get a better graphics card and use a old display (just an 23 inch hdmi hd led tv) or does the 144 hz really make a big differ

There wouldn't be much point in running a high end GPU on a 1080p 60hz display, better to invest in a display with a mid range GPU, as the display will last you much longer than a high end GPU

 

Also a TV wouldn't be very good for gaming, and if you're playing racing sims mostly the extra smoothness would be a godsend.

Might even be worth it to get a 6600K to get your minimum frame rates up with an OC

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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If you can wait, then wait. If not, then proceed.

Although the price is not in Euros, this build would be perfect for your needs.

Now I'm aware certain parts might not be available in Netherlands, but do try to get similar parts, if you don't get the same or equivalent parts.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($36.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card  ($317.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.77 @ Amazon)
Total: $757.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-26 02:39 EDT-0400

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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On 26-4-2016 at 2:41 PM, Shahnewaz said:

If you can wait, then wait. If not, then proceed.

Although the price is not in Euros, this build would be perfect for your needs.

Now I'm aware certain parts might not be available in Netherlands, but do try to get similar parts, if you don't get the same or equivalent parts.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($36.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card  ($317.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.77 @ Amazon)
Total: $757.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-26 02:39 EDT-0400

 

On 26-4-2016 at 1:50 PM, Streetguru said:

There wouldn't be much point in running a high end GPU on a 1080p 60hz display, better to invest in a display with a mid range GPU, as the display will last you much longer than a high end GPU

 

Also a TV wouldn't be very good for gaming, and if you're playing racing sims mostly the extra smoothness would be a godsend.

Might even be worth it to get a 6600K to get your minimum frame rates up with an OC

Hi wat do you think of this parts list

 

Case, HDD, SSD and optical drive I can get from old pc's i have already. And windows license i have. I've chosen 16gb ram because 8 is not enough for me

 

Componenten Aantal Stukprijs Totaal
Sharkoon_WPM600_Bronze__600_Watt_voeding Voeding 

TN6S16
Sharkoon WPM600 Bronze, 600 Watt voeding 		1 € 59,90* € 59,90*
GeIL_16_GB_DDR4_2133_Kit__Werkgeheugen@@ Werkgeheugen

IEIG8H31
GeIL 16 GB DDR4-2133 Kit, Werkgeheugen 		1 € 58,90* € 58,90*
Intel__Core_i5_6500__3_2_GHz__3_6_GHz_Tu Processor

HK5I05
Intel® Core i5-6500, 3,2 GHz (3,6 GHz Turbo Boost) socket 1151 processor 		1 € 199,-* € 199,-*

Boxed Koeler (ATX Layout, PWM)
alle Modelle 		1    
 
MSI_R9_390_GAMING_8G__Grafische_kaart@@j Grafische kaart

JFXN0B01
MSI R9 390 GAMING 8G, Grafische kaart 		1 € 359,-* € 359,-*
GIGABYTE_GA_H110M_S2PV__socket_1151_moed Moederbord

GKIG46
GIGABYTE GA-H110M-S2PV, socket 1151 moederbord 		1 € 66,90* € 66,90*

Intel H110
max. 4 Geräte, 600 MB/s 		1    

USB 3.0 Controller
600 MB/s, USB 3.0, max. 127 Geräte 		1    

USB 2.0 Controller
60 MB/s, USB 2.0, max. 127 Geräte 		1    

CPU-Afhankelijk 		1    

Realtek ALC887
1, Realtek ALC887 		1    

Realtek Gigabit
1 x RJ-45, 10/100/1000 MBit/s 		1    
 
 

 

Prijs € 743,70*
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21 minutes ago, RJ1993 said:

 

Try to find one of the MSI VD/PRO or Gaming boards, should be around that price, but they're just about the best budget 1151 boards

 

and maybe look for a seasonic, super flower, or XFX(non XT), EVGA(non low end/non NEX) power supply

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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33 minutes ago, RJ1993 said:

 

Hi wat do you think of this parts list

 

Case, HDD, SSD and optical drive I can get from old pc's i have already. And windows license i have. I've chosen 16gb ram because 8 is not enough for me

 

Componenten Aantal Stukprijs Totaal
Sharkoon_WPM600_Bronze__600_Watt_voeding Voeding 

TN6S16
Sharkoon WPM600 Bronze, 600 Watt voeding 		1 € 59,90* € 59,90*
GeIL_16_GB_DDR4_2133_Kit__Werkgeheugen@@ Werkgeheugen

IEIG8H31
GeIL 16 GB DDR4-2133 Kit, Werkgeheugen 		1 € 58,90* € 58,90*
Intel__Core_i5_6500__3_2_GHz__3_6_GHz_Tu Processor

HK5I05
Intel® Core i5-6500, 3,2 GHz (3,6 GHz Turbo Boost) socket 1151 processor 		1 € 199,-* € 199,-*

Boxed Koeler (ATX Layout, PWM)
alle Modelle 		1    
 
MSI_R9_390_GAMING_8G__Grafische_kaart@@j Grafische kaart

JFXN0B01
MSI R9 390 GAMING 8G, Grafische kaart 		1 € 359,-* € 359,-*
GIGABYTE_GA_H110M_S2PV__socket_1151_moed Moederbord

GKIG46
GIGABYTE GA-H110M-S2PV, socket 1151 moederbord 		1 € 66,90* € 66,90*

Intel H110
max. 4 Geräte, 600 MB/s 		1    

USB 3.0 Controller
600 MB/s, USB 3.0, max. 127 Geräte 		1    

USB 2.0 Controller
60 MB/s, USB 2.0, max. 127 Geräte 		1    

CPU-Afhankelijk 		1    

Realtek ALC887
1, Realtek ALC887 		1    

Realtek Gigabit
1 x RJ-45, 10/100/1000 MBit/s 		1    
 
 

 

Prijs € 743,70*

DO NOT BUY THAT PSU. That thing is a safety hazard!

Sharkoon PSUs fall into the "Avoid Immediately" Tier of the PSU Tier list: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

Get something reliable. Anything from SeaSonic or Super Flower is good. For a detailed breakdown, refer to the list above, and these two as well:

 

GeIL RAM? Heard little about them, but RAM is RAM. Make sure your kit has lifetime warranty.

 

Everything else looks good.

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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Aantal

Stukprijs Totaal
    Totaalprijs
Bijkomende verzendkosten 		€ 807,69*
van € 4,95**
    Totaal
incl. 21% BTW  		€ 812,64***
€ 141,04 
Seasonic S12II-620Bronze (SS-620GB), 620 Watt voeding
Art-Nr. TN6E52
Grijs, 2x PCIe, Retail
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 74,90* € 74,90*
Corsair 16 GB DDR4-2133 Kit, Werkgeheugen
Art-Nr. IEIG5H52
Zwart, CMK16GX4M2A2133C13, Vengeance LPX, XMP
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 69,90* € 69,90*
Intel® Core i5-6500, 3,2 GHz (3,6 GHz Turbo Boost) socket 1151 processor
Art-Nr. HK5I05
FC-LGA4, "Skylake", Boxed
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 199,-* € 199,-*
Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO, CPU-koeler
Art-Nr. HXLM00
PWM-aansluiting, Retail
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 24,99* € 24,99*
MSI R9 390 GAMING 8G, Grafische kaart
Art-Nr. JFXN0B01
2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, CrossFire, Retail
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 359,-* € 359,-*
Hitman Gamekey, Spel 1 € 0,-* € 0,-*
MSI B150M PRO-VDH, socket 1151 moederbord
Art-Nr. GKIM44
Gb-LAN, Sound, µATX
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 79,90* € 79,90*

 

 

so this a better configuration ? Other psu mobo and ram

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Aantal

Stukprijs Totaal
    Totaalprijs
Bijkomende verzendkosten 		€ 807,69*
van € 4,95**
    Totaal
incl. 21% BTW  		€ 812,64***
€ 141,04 
Seasonic S12II-620Bronze (SS-620GB), 620 Watt voeding
Art-Nr. TN6E52
Grijs, 2x PCIe, Retail
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 74,90* € 74,90*
Corsair 16 GB DDR4-2133 Kit, Werkgeheugen
Art-Nr. IEIG5H52
Zwart, CMK16GX4M2A2133C13, Vengeance LPX, XMP
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 69,90* € 69,90*
Intel® Core i5-6500, 3,2 GHz (3,6 GHz Turbo Boost) socket 1151 processor
Art-Nr. HK5I05
FC-LGA4, "Skylake", Boxed
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 199,-* € 199,-*
Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO, CPU-koeler
Art-Nr. HXLM00
PWM-aansluiting, Retail
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 24,99* € 24,99*
MSI R9 390 GAMING 8G, Grafische kaart
Art-Nr. JFXN0B01
2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, CrossFire, Retail
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 359,-* € 359,-*
Hitman Gamekey, Spel 1 € 0,-* € 0,-*
MSI B150M PRO-VDH, socket 1151 moederbord
Art-Nr. GKIM44
Gb-LAN, Sound, µATX
Direct leverbaar 		1 € 79,90* € 79,90*

 

 

so this a better configuration ? Other psu mobo and ram

Yeah, looks good. The previous motherboard was fine though, unless you need those extra features the B150 motherboard has to offer.

PSU is fine, but you'll never need anywhere near to 620 watts. If you can, try getting something cheaper, as in equal quality, but lower wattage.

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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On 4/26/2016 at 1:46 PM, RJ1993 said:

Don't you think i can get a better graphics card and use a old display (just an 23 inch hdmi hd led tv) or does the 144 hz really make a big difference?

That i5-6500 + R9 380 is a killer combo already.

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600k 4.4GHz | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z270F Gaming | Cooler: Cryorig H7 | RAM: GSkill Ripjaws V 8GB 2x4 3200 MHz | GPU: MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X | PSU: Seasonic G-550w 80+ Gold Certified, Semi Modular | Storage: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue | Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black/Red) | Monitor: BenQ XL2411 144hz | Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE RGB Cherry MX Silent | Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB

 

I'd like to make a Chemistry joke, but all the good ones ARGON. *nudgenudge *winkwink

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