Gaming PC

[stovetophippo08]

My friend needs a new gaming pc. He wants an i7, and max budget is 1000$.

[HPWebcamAble]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Directron) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team Elite Plus 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Directron) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $967.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-19 20:54 EDT-0400

 

 

In this config, you'd want to get a 1TB (or larger) HDD when you can afford it

Edited April 20, 2016 by HPWebcamAble
Fixed a few things

[HKZeroFive]

What does he need an i7 for exactly? You're not going to need it for gaming, you'll be more than fine with an i5.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.50 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($87.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.77 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  ($308.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $994.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-19 20:44 EDT-0400

[JFischer00]

4 minutes ago, HPWebcamAble said:

- SNIP -

4790K with H81 motherboard? Also, that PSU is somewhat iffy.

[Aereldor]

3 minutes ago, HPWebcamAble said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Directron) 
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team Elite Plus 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($23.26 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB (32/64-bit)  ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1016.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-19 20:39 EDT-0400

 

In this config, you'd want to get a 1TB (or larger) HDD when you can afford it

• A 4790k and a cooler with a locked motherboard?
• A 250GB SSD with no mass storage?
• A very low-end case.
• A poor power supply?
• The Gigabyte 390- which is known to have quality control issues?
• $100 for Windows when OEM keys are $20 from Kinguin, and $30 from G2A?

I mean no offense, friend, but what were you thinking?! There's no need to shoestring so much, and that CPU/GPU imbalance is notably off.

[stovetophippo08]

1 minute ago, HKZeroFive said:

What does he need an i7 for exactly? You're not going to need it for gaming, you'll be more than fine with an i5.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($233.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.50 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($87.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.77 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  ($308.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $994.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-19 20:44 EDT-0400

He also does youtube

[TriFlix Films]

I run division on ULTRA with a 970 and a i7 5820k. The CPU has never once gone over 12% usage... I agree with the above and say buy a cheaper i5 and use the saved money to get a better GPU.

[Aereldor]

Bump it up to $1050 (or work with $30 in rebates), you can get this-
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI H81M-E34 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($50.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($57.08 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Triple Dissipation Video Card  ($499.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: Antec Green 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Other: Windows (Kinguin OEM key) ($30.00)
Total: $1070.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-19 21:24 EDT-0400

 

I daresay there's some serious power here- 

• The second-most powerful single DX12 GPU available (barring the Fury X)
• An incredibly hefty CPU that presents some of the best value for rendering (it's a Core i7 4770 for the price of a Core i5 4690k)
• 16GB of RAM
• A decent SSD and 1TB of mass storage to boot
• A verified, reliable power supply from a reputable manufacturer.
• A very attractive, modular case.

 

I'd say it's well worth squeezing in an extra $70. If not, go with an R9 390.
 

@stovetophippo08- edited, optimized for both maxed 1440p gaming (which means it'll destroy 1080p) and video editing/rendering. If he uses premiere, switch to the NVidia equivalent to he can leverage software optimization for CUDA- if he's using anything else- especially Sony software- AMD cards are a better choice.

[TriFlix Films]

If your a student you can get Windows 10 and Office for free through Microsoft and Outlook. 

[HKZeroFive]

4 minutes ago, stovetophippo08 said:

He also does youtube

Then go for a Xeon 1231 v3 with DDR3 RAM. Basically an i7 4770 without a iGPU but at the cost of an i5.

[HPWebcamAble]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

• A 4790k and a cooler with a locked motherboard?

 

5 minutes ago, JFischer00 said:

4790K with H81 motherboard?

Apparently put this together in my sleep... fixing

 

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

•  250GB SSD with no mass storage?

See bottom of that post

 

2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

• A very low-end case.

Yep. Savings.

 

3 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

• A poor power supply?
• The Gigabyte 390- which is known to have quality control issues?

Source? First I've heard of it.

 

5 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

• $100 for Windows when OEM keys are $20 from Kinguin, and $30 from G2A?

Worst case scenario I suppose. Put the other 70-80 toward a case then.

 

 

[Aereldor]

4 minutes ago, TriFlix Films said:

If your a student you can get Windows 10 and Office for free through Microsoft and Outlook. 

Really? What's the discount like? The only cheapskate version of Office I found was the 'lite' thing with ads everywhere.

[TriFlix Films]

The discount if free... IF YOUR ARE A STUDENT. Log into or create a Office 365 account, you can download it from there.

Here's the free windows 10 link http://onthehub.com/download/free-software/windows-10-education-for-students/, just put in your school information. I did these both for my computer I built less than a month ago and they worked perfectly. 

[Aereldor]

10 minutes ago, HPWebcamAble said:

1. Apparently put this together in my sleep... fixing
2. See bottom of that post
3. Yep. Savings.
4. Source? First I've heard of it
5. Worst case scenario I suppose. Put the other 70-80 toward a case then.

1. Cheers.
2. Is the compromise worth it at a $1000 budget? I used that case in my $300 extreme value PC (see signature). It's less than a third the cost.
3. But there's no need to push it so far back. Not on a $1000 budget where he can definitely afford enough mass storage for his games.
4. @STRMfrmXMN (please, senpai?) can tell you more about using EVGA's 'B' series in anything but the most basic builds (they're on par with the CX series).
   • For the GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681412579 (ratings, reviews, reports of failure)
5. You could do that already. Who's to say a solid case is expensive? See the builds below your to understand why this absurd compromise isn't unnecessary, and how to better optimize your builds for GPU-intensive workloads like games.

Also, why not address your CPU/GPU imbalance issue? Going from even a Core i5 6500 to a Core i7 4790k/6700k is only going to yield a marginal increase in performance. Going from an R9 390 to a GTX 980 Ti or an R9 Fury is going to amount to a massive leap in performance. If you're in doubt, feel free to consult benchmarks.

[TriFlix Films]

2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Also, why not address your CPU/GPU imbalance issue? Going from even a Core i5 6500 to a Core i7 4790k/6700k is only going to yield a marginal increase in performance. Going from an R9 390 to a GTX 980 Ti or an R9 Fury is going to amount to a massive leap in performance. If you're in doubt, feel free to consult benchmarks.

You can google "(GPU Name) vs (GPU Name)" and benchmarks will come up. I did this many times before selecting my GPU and determining how big of a jump over my prior one... answer 217% haha. Also I answered your question above about free windows and office but forgot to quote you, my bad.

[Aereldor]

12 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

Then go for a Xeon 1231 v3 with DDR3 RAM. Basically an i7 4770 without a iGPU but at the cost of an i5.

And you can slap it onto an $45 motherboard too.

[Aereldor]

Just now, TriFlix Films said:

You can google "(GPU Name) vs (GPU Name)" and benchmarks will come up. I did this many times before selecting my GPU and determining how big of a jump over my prior one... answer 217% haha. Also I answered your question above about free windows and office but forgot to quote you, my bad.

I know- I looked up UserBenchmark, Digital Foundry's videos and the new DX12 benchmark videos where 390s are taking on freaking 980 Tis and winning due to DX12 leveraging asynchronous computing.

 

I merely stated that @HPWebcamAble could look up benchmarks if he doubted what I said about the performance difference between his build and others here- notably mine with a weaker CPU but a much faster GPU.

[TriFlix Films]

Benchmark comparing sites:

http://gpuboss.com/gpus

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com

[HPWebcamAble]

47 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Aso, why not address your CPU/GPU imbalance issue? Going from even a Core i5 6500 to a Core i7 4790k/6700k is only going to yield a marginal increase in performance. Going from an R9 390 to a GTX 980 Ti or an R9 Fury is going to amount to a massive leap in performance. If you're in doubt, feel free to consult benchmarks.

I agree with what you've said so far. Forgot to mention:

OP requested an i7 so.. i7 it is. Perhaps I should have questioned OP's judgment.. but I assume it was for video editing or rendering which doesn't need anything more than a 390 or 970, but greatly benefits from an i7 over an i5.

 

Speaking of which OP hasn't clarified what it's actually for.. guess we'll have to see.

[stovetophippo08]

1 minute ago, HPWebcamAble said:

Speaking of which OP hasn't clarified what it's actually for.. guess we'll have to see.

My friend does PC gaming and Youtube

 

[HPWebcamAble]

Just now, stovetophippo08 said:

My friend does PC gaming and Youtube

Is the youtube thing more of a hobby or actually a job?

[stovetophippo08]

Just now, HPWebcamAble said:

Is the youtube thing more of a hobby or actually a job?

Hobby for now

 

[Aereldor]

1 minute ago, HPWebcamAble said:

I agree with what you've said so far. Forgot to mention:

OP requested an i7 so.. i7 it is. Perhaps I should have questioned OP's judgment.. but I assume it was for video edition or rendering which doesn't need anything more than a 390 or 970, but greatly benefits from an i7 over an i5.

 

Speaking of which OP hasn't clarified what it's actually for.. guess we'll have to see.

He did, but he never mentioned that it's a video editing PC until later, and I'd be inclined to swap out my Core i5 6600 and H110 board for a Xeon E3-1231 V3 and a B85 board- in fact, I'm doing that right now.

It appears to be gaming first- I mean, 'Gaming' PC is in the title, but he only mentioned that his friend 'does YouTube' afterwards. Thus, he could definitely use something more powerful than that.

 

Lastly- the process of editing is still referred to as 'Editing'. 'Edition' refers to versions or revisions (the first edition of a book, 'Platinum Edition' software, 'Collectors' Edition' games).

[HPWebcamAble]

22 minutes ago, stovetophippo08 said:

Hobby for now

I'd recommend an i5 then, see HKZeroFive's post above.

If your budget is flexible, then see Aereldor's build for additional power

 

23 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

I'd be inclined to swap out my Core i5 6600 and H110 board for a Xeon E3-1231 V3 and a B85 board- in fact, I'm doing that right now.

Up to OP and his friend I suppose. Personally, I want an iGPU, but it's a good way to get some more threads for a better price.

 

24 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Lastly- the process of editing is still referred to as 'Editing'. 'Edition' refers to versions or revisions (the first edition of a book, 'Platinum Edition' software, 'Collectors' Edition' games).

I type really fast and don't proof read. Bad combo.

[Aereldor]

3 minutes ago, HPWebcamAble said:

I'd recommend an i5 then, see HKZeroFive's post above.

If your budget is flexible, then see Aereldor's build for additional power

 

Up to OP and his friend I suppose. Personally, I want an iGPU, but it's a good way to get some more threads for a better price.

 

I type really fast and don't proof read. Bad combo.

Why would you want an iGPU with a discrete GPU in there? I understand that it provides a backup in case your expensive gaming-grade graphics card goes up in smoke, but you'll have to pay a lot more to get the same performance and an iGPU.

I suppose the choice between @HKZeroFive's build and mine is how much OP's friend cares about editing and rendering, and whether he's willing to pay a little extra for something that holds up already, or cut back a little bit but have to upgrade in the future if he gets serious about editing and rendering.