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I have made a lot of posts about getting an SSD. I was planning on getting the OCZ Trion 150 240GB, but my budget just got a little bigger and they ran out of stock on Amazon. So I started considering the Samsung 850 Evo. How much better is it really? Would you pay the extra $20-30 for it? And what about the m.2 editon. My board (z97-ar) has m.2 support. What are the advantages and disadvantages of me getting the m.2 edition, and what you do?

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Yes ... it worth it. I recently switched from OCZ ARC 100 which is lower teir than your original purchase, i see massive improvement in IO. Now my application started up much quicker than my old SSD and my boot speed decreased from 20sec down to 5 secs. Also my windows lagging aero experience is completing gone even after clone migration tool and was not even a clean install. 

 

In short, get the EVO is a good overall SSD and will last much longer than Trion. 

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850 EVO SATA III is by far the best value for your cash.

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The PNY CS1311 240GB is $60 right now, and I think it's about as fast as the OCZ Trion 150.

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1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

The PNY CS1311 240GB is $60 right now, and I think it's about as fast as the OCZ Trion 150.

Yeah I already looked into it. It is faster for large file transfers than the OCZ Trion 150, but slower in smaller transfers. So I would go with the OCZ Trion 150.

My System:

Intel Core i5-4690k  / Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Asus Z97-AR MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 100me Corsair Vengeance LP 1600Mhz 2x4GB DDR3 Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM HDD / NZXT S340 EVGA SuperNOVA G1 650W / Windows 10 Home 64 / AOC G2460PQU 1080p 144hz / Corsair VOID Wireless RGB Razer Taipan Laser Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 

My Laptop (Asus X55C-DS31):

Intel Core i3-2370M @ 2.4Ghz 6GB RAM / OCZ ARC100 240GB SSD /

My Phone:

OnePlus Three Graphite Black / 64GB

My Watch:

Moto 360 1st Generation

 

 

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15 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

850 EVO SATA III is by far the best value for your cash.

 

23 minutes ago, MrUnknownEMC said:

Yes ... it worth it. I recently switched from OCZ ARC 100 which is lower teir than your original purchase, i see massive improvement in IO. Now my application started up much quicker than my old SSD and my boot speed decreased from 20sec down to 5 secs. Also my windows lagging aero experience is completing gone even after clone migration tool and was not even a clean install. 

 

In short, get the EVO is a good overall SSD and will last much longer than Trion. 

 

How many GBs is it? My OCZ Arc100 240GB is actually only 220GB of usable space.

My System:

Intel Core i5-4690k  / Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Asus Z97-AR MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 100me Corsair Vengeance LP 1600Mhz 2x4GB DDR3 Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM HDD / NZXT S340 EVGA SuperNOVA G1 650W / Windows 10 Home 64 / AOC G2460PQU 1080p 144hz / Corsair VOID Wireless RGB Razer Taipan Laser Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 

My Laptop (Asus X55C-DS31):

Intel Core i3-2370M @ 2.4Ghz 6GB RAM / OCZ ARC100 240GB SSD /

My Phone:

OnePlus Three Graphite Black / 64GB

My Watch:

Moto 360 1st Generation

 

 

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Just now, BiscuitMassacre said:

 

 

How many GBs is it? My OCZ Arc100 240GB is actually only 220GB of usable space.

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Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

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2 minutes ago, BiscuitMassacre said:

Yeah I already looked into it. It is faster for large file transfers than the OCZ Trion 150, but slower in smaller transfers. So I would go with the OCZ Trion 150.

Smaller transfers are handled via SYS RAM which is used by Samsung's magician software - it's around 58000MB/s

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Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

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2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Smaller transfers are handled via SYS RAM which is used by Samsung's magician software - it's around 58000MB/s

what?

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Intel Core i5-4690k  / Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Asus Z97-AR MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 100me Corsair Vengeance LP 1600Mhz 2x4GB DDR3 Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM HDD / NZXT S340 EVGA SuperNOVA G1 650W / Windows 10 Home 64 / AOC G2460PQU 1080p 144hz / Corsair VOID Wireless RGB Razer Taipan Laser Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 

My Laptop (Asus X55C-DS31):

Intel Core i3-2370M @ 2.4Ghz 6GB RAM / OCZ ARC100 240GB SSD /

My Phone:

OnePlus Three Graphite Black / 64GB

My Watch:

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M.2 will only make a difference if it uses the pcie 3.0 Northbridge lanes.  Some boards are limit m.2 functionality to the southbridge, sharing bandwith with SATA ports.

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1 minute ago, xentropa said:

M.2 will only make a difference if it uses the pcie 3.0 Northbridge lanes.  Some boards are limit m.2 functionality to the southbridge, sharing bandwith with SATA ports.

Yeah, but I don't think its even fast enough, its only m.2 sata.

My System:

Intel Core i5-4690k  / Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Asus Z97-AR MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 100me Corsair Vengeance LP 1600Mhz 2x4GB DDR3 Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM HDD / NZXT S340 EVGA SuperNOVA G1 650W / Windows 10 Home 64 / AOC G2460PQU 1080p 144hz / Corsair VOID Wireless RGB Razer Taipan Laser Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 

My Laptop (Asus X55C-DS31):

Intel Core i3-2370M @ 2.4Ghz 6GB RAM / OCZ ARC100 240GB SSD /

My Phone:

OnePlus Three Graphite Black / 64GB

My Watch:

Moto 360 1st Generation

 

 

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9 minutes ago, BiscuitMassacre said:

what?

Samsung's software uses RAM as cache or something

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Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

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Random read is 88000 atm, random write is 78000 - RAM caching FTW :D

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Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

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2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Random read is 88000 atm, random write is 78000 - RAM caching FTW :D

the Ocz Trion 150 doesn't do that?

My System:

Intel Core i5-4690k  / Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Asus Z97-AR MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 100me Corsair Vengeance LP 1600Mhz 2x4GB DDR3 Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM HDD / NZXT S340 EVGA SuperNOVA G1 650W / Windows 10 Home 64 / AOC G2460PQU 1080p 144hz / Corsair VOID Wireless RGB Razer Taipan Laser Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 

My Laptop (Asus X55C-DS31):

Intel Core i3-2370M @ 2.4Ghz 6GB RAM / OCZ ARC100 240GB SSD /

My Phone:

OnePlus Three Graphite Black / 64GB

My Watch:

Moto 360 1st Generation

 

 

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Just now, BiscuitMassacre said:

the Ocz Trion 150 doesn't do that?

Yup - hence why I said the 850 is faster overall :)

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Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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48 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Smaller transfers are handled via SYS RAM which is used by Samsung's magician software - it's around 58000MB/s

While I fully agree with the 850 evo, you have an extra 0 there. 

 

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And RAPID mode is primarily just to beef up benchmarks. It's nice, but the real world benefits are fairly small.

 

I do fully agree, go with the 850 evo. It's damn good value.

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1 minute ago, JoeyDM said:

While I fully agree with the 850 evo, you have an extra 0 there. 

 

samsung%20ssd%20850%20evo%20rapid%20cdm.

 

And RAPID mode is primarily just to beef up benchmarks. It's nice, but the real world benefits are fairly small.

 

I do fully agree, go with the 850 evo. It's damn good value.

Mine are higher man, not sure why yours aren't

Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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Just now, don_svetlio said:

Mine are higher man, not sure why yours aren't

That's about the average from what I've seen, and that isn't mine, just a google image. I've thrown them in a bunch of systems and see roughly the same. Can I see a screenshot of yours with RAPID on?

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Just now, JoeyDM said:

That's about the average from what I've seen, and that isn't mine, just a google image. I've thrown them in a bunch of systems and see roughly the same. Can I see a screenshot of yours with RAPID on?

Remind me when I get back

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Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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Just now, don_svetlio said:

Remind me when I get back

Will do! When do you want me to post, about 5-6 hours?

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