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Hello! I am coming into PC gaming from an old, low tier laptop, and I'm looking to build my first PC so I can play nearly any game at mid-high settings with at least around 50-60 fps. The main concerns I have right now are the compatibility of my parts and the possibility of snatching a better part for the same price. Additionally, I would like to not have any parts be cut off a significant amount by the potential low performance of a single part. If there is a better part for the build at a similar price, that would be amazing if anyone could help me with that.

 

The parts are: (Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WcvJFT)

AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor

MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard

Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

 
 
 
 
 
On top of that, I need a pair of headphones and a mic, would this (Logitech G230 Headset ) suffice?
As I am new to PCs, I have watched and learned some things from Linus' YouTube channel(s?), but I am completely a "noob" to forums and building a custom PC. Thanks for your time!
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https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=140

not sure about the quality of thermaltake psus, just spend $5 more and get seasoniuc quality.

Altair - Firestrike: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13945459

CPU:  i7-4790 @ 3.6 GHz Motherboard: Gigabyte B85M-DS3H-A RAM: 16GB @ 1600MHz CL11 GPU: XFX RX 470 RS Storage: ADATA SP550 240GB | WD Blue 1TB | Toshiba 2TB PSU: EVGA B2 750W Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro Fans: Phanteks PH-F200SP (Front) | Phanteks PH-F140SP (Rear) | Noctua NF-A15 (Top)

Mouse: Logitech G502 | Keyboard: Corsair K70 MX Brown | Audio: Sennheiser HD 558

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9 minutes ago, TheCrimsonWolf123 said:

 

Should go for a skylake i5 though, just buy the headphones later

Also for headphones, I'd go with the superlux 668Bs

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N2DWMp
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N2DWMp/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.77 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB NITRO Dual-X OC Video Card  ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $620.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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Welcome to the forum! Consider saying hello and introducing yourself to the community in the 'Off Topic' subforum. Remember to quote people or tag them with an '@' like this- @Aereldor if you want them to reply.

Your build looks good, but your CPU is using an antiquated architecture which doesn't perform too well in games due to its slow single-core performance. Furthermore, games don't leverage all 6 cores, and are mostly restricted to 4, which means you won't be seeing great performance from it. I wouldn't recommend buying AMD processors until their new 'Zen' line hits later this year.

Could you tell us your total budget, location, and what games you're willing to play, and what else you intend to use the PC for?

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4 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Welcome to the forum! Consider saying hello and introducing yourself to the community in the 'Off Topic' subforum. Remember to quote people or tag them with an '@' like this- @Aereldor if you want them to reply.

Your build looks good, but your CPU is using an antiquated architecture which doesn't perform too well in games due to its slow single-core performance. Furthermore, games don't leverage all 6 cores, and are mostly restricted to 4, which means you won't be seeing great performance from it. I wouldn't recommend buying AMD processors until their new 'Zen' line hits later this year.

Could you tell us your total budget, location, and what games you're willing to play, and what else you intend to use the PC for?

My intended budget was around $650, but I could adjust for a higher price. I just cant go above $700 simply because I don't have the money to. I am in Arizona, US. And I'm willing to play nearly any game, but I plan on playing GTA V and other open world games.

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Here's a build I put together for a similar budget to yours. It features a much better CPU, as well as a better, more reliable power supply. The case is a little more minimalist, true to the Fractal aesthetic, but I think it's great value for its features and build quality at a low price of $25.

 

I also threw in a pair of Superlux HD-681 headphones. I own the refreshed version of these, but they haven't changed much, and these are really great open-back reference headphones which deliver clean, balanced sound at a very low price point.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($51.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Avexir Budget Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Headphones: Superlux HD681 Headphones  ($30.00 @ Amazon) 
Other: CAD-U37 USB Condenser Microphone ($45.00)
Total: $760.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-13 03:42 EDT-0400

You'll still have to shell out the extra for a good microphone, though.

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1 minute ago, TheCrimsonWolf123 said:

My intended budget was around $650, but I could adjust for a higher price. I just cant go above $700 simply because I don't have the money to. I am in Arizona, US. And I'm willing to play nearly any game, but I plan on playing GTA V and other open world games.

Alright. See the build I suggested a little while ago, although if you can afford to spend up to $700, I'd upgrade your graphics card to a faster R9 380x or an R9 390 that can more or less max out anything at 1080p.

i5 12600KF | Zotac RTX 4080 Gaming trinity | Team Vulcan 2x16GB DDR4 3600 | ASRock Z690M-ITX/ac | WD Black SN850x 2TB

Cooler Master NR200P v2 | ID Cooling Zoomflow 280 XT | SeaSonic Focus SGX-750 | Thermalright 2x140mm + 2x120mm aRGB

LG C2 OLED 48" 120hz | Epomaker TH80 (Gateron Yellow) | Logitech MX Master 3 | Koss Porta Pro Comm

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2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

 

Would easily be worth the 20 bucks for the 6500 vs the 6400

 

and the MSI boards for around 60 bucks have better power delivery than that board

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Would easily be worth the 20 bucks for the 6500 vs the 6400

 

and the MSI boards for around 60 bucks have better power delivery than that board

Would it be necessary with a locked CPU? Also, I don't know about all MSI boards, but the H110M Gaming board had some weird clearance issues between a Sapphire 390 backplate and the RAM.

Also, the similarly-priced MSI H110M PRO-VD has no system fan headers, which means OP will either need a controller, or be alright with plugging his fans into the PSU Molex cables and having them pinned at full speed.

EDIT: My mistake, it has one, carefully concealed behind the PCI-e slot. However, power delivery is probably similar with the 4-pin CPU power connector both boards have.

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10 minutes ago, TheCrimsonWolf123 said:

My intended budget was around $650, but I could adjust for a higher price. I just cant go above $700 simply because I don't have the money to. I am in Arizona, US. And I'm willing to play nearly any game, but I plan on playing GTA V and other open world games.

Huh. The lowest I can recommend you without downgrading any part from my "Great PC for price" recommendation is $738.16. Can you make it?

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Shahnewaz said:

Huh. The lowest I can recommend you without downgrading any part from my "Great PC for price" recommendation is $738.16. Can you make it?

Maybe, I'm not 100% ill be able to get that money. If you could downgrade a part for me just incase I don't have the money as a failsafe would be extremely helpful. Thanks!

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9 minutes ago, TheCrimsonWolf123 said:

Maybe, I'm not 100% ill be able to get that money. If you could downgrade a part for me just incase I don't have the money as a failsafe would be extremely helpful. Thanks!

No problem!

Here's the original list, if you can make it: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZYXwMp

A downgraded list, as a backup would be @Aereldor's build, suggested a few posts above:

 

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

No problem!

Here's the original list, if you can make it: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZYXwMp

A downgraded list, as a backup would be @Aereldor's build, suggested a few posts above:

 

Cut to a 1x8 gb stick. It'll reduce the price and will allow for an upgrade to 16gb in the future. Then switch over to Gigabyte's $299 R9 390 and you're in budget again, and if OP really can't squeeze in that 10 $10 more, drop to a Core i5 6400.

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Cooler Master NR200P v2 | ID Cooling Zoomflow 280 XT | SeaSonic Focus SGX-750 | Thermalright 2x140mm + 2x120mm aRGB

LG C2 OLED 48" 120hz | Epomaker TH80 (Gateron Yellow) | Logitech MX Master 3 | Koss Porta Pro Comm

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2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Cut to a 1x8 gb stick. It'll reduce the price and will allow for an upgrade to 16gb in the future. Then switch over to Gigabyte's $299 R9 390 and you're in budget again, and if OP really can't squeeze in that 10 $10 more, drop to a Core i5 6400.

I admire your penny pinching skills. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to get a 1x8GB stick rather than a 2x4GB stick.

Updated list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8qZYpg

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

I admire your penny pinching skills. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to get a 1x8GB stick rather than a 2x4GB stick.

Updated list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8qZYpg

Similarly, updated my build to this.
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($51.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Avexir Budget Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Headphones: Superlux HD681 Headphones  ($30.00 @ Amazon) 
Other: CAD-U37 USB Condenser Microphone ($45.00)
Total: $760.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-13 03:42 EDT-0400

i5 12600KF | Zotac RTX 4080 Gaming trinity | Team Vulcan 2x16GB DDR4 3600 | ASRock Z690M-ITX/ac | WD Black SN850x 2TB

Cooler Master NR200P v2 | ID Cooling Zoomflow 280 XT | SeaSonic Focus SGX-750 | Thermalright 2x140mm + 2x120mm aRGB

LG C2 OLED 48" 120hz | Epomaker TH80 (Gateron Yellow) | Logitech MX Master 3 | Koss Porta Pro Comm

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5 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

I admire your penny pinching skills. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to get a 1x8GB stick rather than a 2x4GB stick.

Updated list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8qZYpg

Update: Keep in mind that your build doesn't include headphones or a microphone, both of which OP needs.

I'm currently weighing the merits of getting a headset rather than reference headphones and a desktop condenser microphone.

 

@TheCrimsonWolf123- fancy yourself an audiophile, music producer, or stickler for a superior listening experience? If not, a cheap headset will do.

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Cooler Master NR200P v2 | ID Cooling Zoomflow 280 XT | SeaSonic Focus SGX-750 | Thermalright 2x140mm + 2x120mm aRGB

LG C2 OLED 48" 120hz | Epomaker TH80 (Gateron Yellow) | Logitech MX Master 3 | Koss Porta Pro Comm

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Well then @TheCrimsonWolf123, @Aereldor's last build would be the one we both agree on, and recommend.

If you can afford the extra $25 price premium, take his build and switch to an i5-6500. Or else just go for his build. ^_^

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Aereldor said:

My mistake, it has one, carefully concealed behind the PCI-e slot. However, power delivery is probably similar with the 4-pin CPU power connector both boards have.

Would be better off with a chip that turbos to 3.6ghz vs 3.3ghz if you're stuck with it.

 

Also just count the chokes
 

4 on the gigabyte board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128873&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

6 on the MSI board, plus the other one has no USB 3.1. Also the MSI board has DVI, should legacy support on the iGPU ever be needed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130895&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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5 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Would be better off with a chip that turbos to 3.6ghz vs 3.3ghz if you're stuck with it.

 

Also just count the chokes
 

4 on the gigabyte board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128873&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

6 on the MSI board, plus the other one has no USB 3.1. Also the MSI board has DVI, should legacy support on the iGPU ever be needed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130895&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

I have no idea what chokes are. Is there a TechQuickie episode I can look up?

i5 12600KF | Zotac RTX 4080 Gaming trinity | Team Vulcan 2x16GB DDR4 3600 | ASRock Z690M-ITX/ac | WD Black SN850x 2TB

Cooler Master NR200P v2 | ID Cooling Zoomflow 280 XT | SeaSonic Focus SGX-750 | Thermalright 2x140mm + 2x120mm aRGB

LG C2 OLED 48" 120hz | Epomaker TH80 (Gateron Yellow) | Logitech MX Master 3 | Koss Porta Pro Comm

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1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

I have no idea what chokes are. Is there a TechQuickie episode I can look up?

 

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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