Video Editor That Doesn't Compress and Encode?

[Frankieanime158]

Alright, this might be something that's non-exsistant, and I'll probably seem really ignorant for asking.. But here goes.

Is there a video editor that would just stitch together videos and cut videos up without spending hours encoding and rendering?

Basically I'll make gaming videos for YouTube, and I record using Shadowplay. Quality looks great and has no impact on my PC.

My specs aren't good enough to handle things like OBS and XSplit (which compresses the video while recording). So my half an 

hour gaming sesh comes out to 10gb using Shadowplay at 1080p 60fps.

Usually what I'd do, is a lets play, cut it up into episodes (20 minutes or so each), and batch render. Problem is, the video always 

comes out looking disgusting in comparison to the original, and plus each episode literally takes 4 hours to render. Which I guess

isn't too big of a deal, but this is my only PC. If I decide to render a few episodes, I can't game, or really do anything other than 

facebook scrolling on my computer since the rendering software takes up so many resources. I use Sony Vegas normally, and the

quality always comes out looking like crap no matter what I do. Setting it to 16,000,000 bitrate or higher, tried all the presets like

Sony AVC and all such. So I'm not asking for help with Vegas, but more of a more productive alternative. I've also tried premier, too

complicated for what I do. I'm not looking to make movies or insane video edits, all I want to do is stich and intro to my episode, and

fade out at the end, that's it.

So what I want to do is compress the video with handbrake, and somehow cut it into segments while stitching the intro on that start.

If the intro is the exact same output as the post encoded gameplay with handbake, than shouldn't this be possible?

A half an hour gameplay with Shadowplay like I said is 10gb. After I compress it with Handbrake, it comes out around 2gb. More or

less depending on other variables. And on top of that the quality is nearly identical, still looks incredible and smooth.

So if it looks great when it's raw like this, isn't there SOME way to skip the rendering process? At least just a bit? It only takes about

the length of the gameplay to compress it, so why should I wait 12 hours for 3 episodes of something I'm not altering other than just

gluing an intro to the beginning?

Anyways, hopefully someone knows what I mean and can point me in the right direction.

My rendering times are terrible because of my specs. Q6700, GTX960, 8gb DDR3 1333. I don't have the money to upgrade, but I do

plan on doing so whenever it's finally possible. But this is what I have to work with, so what can I do to make it work?

Thanks

[Lotus]

You have to put the videos into a format that doesn't rely on keyframes. Almost all media is in this form to save bandwidth/size. Otherwise tons of stuff just doesn't work.

[LynxThe1st]

Do you have Windows or...?

[Frankieanime158]

3 minutes ago, LynxThe1st said:

Do you have Windows or...?

Yea, I have Windows 10

[LynxThe1st]

Just now, Frankieanime158 said:

Yea, I have Windows 10

Gimme a bit then

[Frankieanime158]

5 minutes ago, Lotus said:

You have to put the videos into a format that doesn't rely on keyframes. Almost all media is in this form to save bandwidth/size. Otherwise tons of stuff just doesn't work.

Alright, thanks for the information

[Frankieanime158]

2 minutes ago, LynxThe1st said:

Gimme a bit then

Alright thanks

[LynxThe1st]

3 hours ago, Frankieanime158 said:

Alright thanks

http://www.openshot.org/download/

Should be on option for show more, windows is there somewhere

Any ways about the program

I use it my self and even doing 1080p 60fps video, it doesn't use much cpu at all (10%-15%)

End up looking just as good as the original video (but of course, with your edits*)

If you don't like this, tell me, I'll look for another program

Edited April 10, 2016 by LynxThe1st
* used too be editor

[Frankieanime158]

5 minutes ago, LynxThe1st said:

http://www.openshot.org/download/

Should be on option for show more, windows is there somewhere

Any ways about the program

I use it my self and even doing 1080p 60fps video, it doesn't use much cpu at all (10%-15%)

End up looking just as good as the original video (but of course, with your editor)

If you don't like this, tell me, I'll look for another program

Alright thank you, checking this out right now

[BrightCandle]

3 hours ago, Frankieanime158 said:

....

For OBS Studio be aware you can set the encoder to use NVENC, ie it does the exact same thing as Shadowplay and has similar overhead (effectively none) but allows multiple audio streams and all that jazz. OBS Studio is just plain awesome and for recording video its just superior to Shadowplay in every way you just have to set it up.

 

Video output quality is highly dependent on bit rate and the settings you use. I did a tonne of testing of NLE recently and came to the conclusion that Sony Vegas was by far the slowest of all the editors and I didn't find the encoder settings very intuitive at all. In the end for price/performance I couldn't fault cyberlink PowerDirector, it was by far the fastest rendering NLE and its quite functional and nice and cheap as well. For the purpose of uploading to youtube at 60 fps a bit rate of 15,000 kbit/s should do the job use main or high and you'll get decent quality.

 

Sony can absolutely put out the quality of video given the right settings but that wont solve its speed issues, it is a lot slower than its competition.

[Vijayan]

Check AppGeeker video editor, should work for you.

[Frankieanime158]

4 hours ago, BrightCandle said:

For OBS Studio be aware you can set the encoder to use NVENC, ie it does the exact same thing as Shadowplay and has similar overhead (effectively none) but allows multiple audio streams and all that jazz. OBS Studio is just plain awesome and for recording video its just superior to Shadowplay in every way you just have to set it up.

 

Video output quality is highly dependent on bit rate and the settings you use. I did a tonne of testing of NLE recently and came to the conclusion that Sony Vegas was by far the slowest of all the editors and I didn't find the encoder settings very intuitive at all. In the end for price/performance I couldn't fault cyberlink PowerDirector, it was by far the fastest rendering NLE and its quite functional and nice and cheap as well. For the purpose of uploading to youtube at 60 fps a bit rate of 15,000 kbit/s should do the job use main or high and you'll get decent quality.

 

Sony can absolutely put out the quality of video given the right settings but that wont solve its speed issues, it is a lot slower than its competition.

Yea I know, I've tried OBS with every possible setting I could. I like using it for things other than gameplay, but it doesn't work well with Nvenc. It still doesn't give the same performance using it, and it massively degrades the quality no matter how high I adjust the quality settings/bitrate. Nvenc just doesn't look good at all in OBS. Besides, I can record 1080p 60fps on lower end games with it, but anything after 2011 it drops frames pretty dramatically. But when I use Shadowplay I can record the most intensive game my PC allows, and not get any effect on performance. Like Black Ops 3, I get 50-70fps on max settings 1080p, and activating Shadowplay doesn't effect it at all. Same with Dying light, Skyrim with a heavy amount of mods.. it tackles anything and everything. But OBS can't get a solid 60fps on even Black Ops 2 at 720. But regardless, that quality just really suffers when OBS uses Nvenc

[Frankieanime158]

1 hour ago, Vijayan said:

Check AppGeeker video editor, should work for you.

Alright, I'll check that out right now, thank you

[Frankieanime158]

4 hours ago, BrightCandle said:

For OBS Studio be aware you can set the encoder to use NVENC, ie it does the exact same thing as Shadowplay and has similar overhead (effectively none) but allows multiple audio streams and all that jazz. OBS Studio is just plain awesome and for recording video its just superior to Shadowplay in every way you just have to set it up.

 

Video output quality is highly dependent on bit rate and the settings you use. I did a tonne of testing of NLE recently and came to the conclusion that Sony Vegas was by far the slowest of all the editors and I didn't find the encoder settings very intuitive at all. In the end for price/performance I couldn't fault cyberlink PowerDirector, it was by far the fastest rendering NLE and its quite functional and nice and cheap as well. For the purpose of uploading to youtube at 60 fps a bit rate of 15,000 kbit/s should do the job use main or high and you'll get decent quality.

 

Sony can absolutely put out the quality of video given the right settings but that wont solve its speed issues, it is a lot slower than its competition.

I will use OBS someday regularly, but not until I upgrade my CPU. The q6700 is just too much of a bottleneck, and can't handle regular h264 encoding. With that encoder though, it does look incredible. But I'll need to wait until I get a 4460 or an FX8350 in the future