upgrade Upgrade to Skylake?

[TomXD1]

I currently have an FX-8350 and have finally decided it's time to upgrade to the Intel side, I'm selling my PS4 for £200 and can sell my current cpu and mobo for about £130 so my upgrade budget is around £330. At the moment I have 3 options in mind but 2 are more viable than the other one so here they are:

Option 1: i7 4790k - £200, MSI Z97 PC mate - £65, Keep current RAM, Hynix 250gb SSD - £45. Total - £310

Option 2: i5 6600k - £170, AsRock Z170 Pro4 - £92, Sell current RAM and get DDR4 - £0-10, Hynix 250gb SSD - £45. Total - £317-327

 

These are the two most compelling options I have found. Both have their own benefits with option one giving me twice the threads and although I don't use many multithreaded apps more games are taking advantage of this. However the i5 6600k offers better core performance and the ddr4 memory giving me more future proofing but lacks the hyperthreading benefit. The i5 also offers me better future upgradability with the ddr4 memory and I can also upgrade to an i7 6700k in the future. Both will be a considerable upgrade from my current cpu.

 Option 3: i7 6700k - £270, AsRock Z170 Pro4 - £92, RAM £0-10. Total - £362-372.

 

This is less viable as the price is high and there is no SSD benefit that I can buy with my budget and I don't have one currently.

 

So I was just hoping for some opinions on what option I should take as I am really struggling to make a decision as there are benefits to both.

 

[dizmo]

Don't upgrade for what the games are on their way to doing, upgrade for the current situation.

I'd say go i5. A huge part of me says go option 3, but if you don't already have an SSD the performance increase from that alone is worth the very small hit.

 

If you can save the 100 pound to get the SSD as well as upgrading to an i7, that's a route to consider as well. Not sure how long it'd take you, for me it'd be a week or two, but worth it.

 

Can't go the Xeon route? Or do you like to OC?

 

[porina]

Budget for a cooler too, at least for the Skylake CPUs as the overclockable ones don't come with one. Something like Coolermaster Hyper 212 series around £30.

 

I've already gone the Skylake route so I'm biased to option 2. If having HT helps or not really depends on your applications. An overclocked 6600k is still going to be plenty fast for most things.

[TomXD1]

Not a big fan of Xeons and yes I will be over clocking. I already have the CPU cooler front sorted. I would be swapping my Noctua c-14 for a closed loop cooler. But with the i7 4790k I could keep the c-14 so I guess that's another thing. Option 3 is much less viable for me because of the no way of getting the SSD in.

 

edit - just found out I could keep my c-14 as the mounting is the same for the lga1151 as it is for the other comparable ones.

[manofsteel]

23 minutes ago, TomXD1 said:

I currently have an FX-8350 and have finally decided it's time to upgrade to the Intel side, I'm selling my PS4 for £200 and can sell my current cpu and mobo for about £130 so my upgrade budget is around £330. At the moment I have 3 options in mind but 2 are more viable than the other one so here they are:

Option 1: i7 4790k - £200, MSI Z97 PC mate - £65, Keep current RAM, Hynix 250gb SSD - £45. Total - £310

Option 2: i5 6600k - £170, AsRock Z170 Pro4 - £92, Sell current RAM and get DDR4 - £0-10, Hynix 250gb SSD - £45. Total - £317-327

 

These are the two most compelling options I have found. Both have their own benefits with option one giving me twice the threads and although I don't use many multithreaded apps more games are taking advantage of this. However the i5 6600k offers better core performance and the ddr4 memory giving me more future proofing but lacks the hyperthreading benefit. The i5 also offers me better future upgradability with the ddr4 memory and I can also upgrade to an i7 6700k in the future. Both will be a considerable upgrade from my current cpu.

 Option 3: i7 6700k - £270, AsRock Z170 Pro4 - £92, RAM £0-10. Total - £362-372.

 

This is less viable as the price is high and there is no SSD benefit that I can buy with my budget and I don't have one currently.

 

So I was just hoping for some opinions on what option I should take as I am really struggling to make a decision as there are benefits to both.

 

If you like the botnet and spyware windows 10 then go for skylake if you want full support for lets say windows 8.1 (by that i mean all updates untill 202x ) because skylake processors on older system will propably have problem with updates (it can cause system to not boot or boot loop or some instability cuz you dont know what microshit did to their products to make user switch systems with this procesors ) if you dont plan on upgrades you can go ahead and pick skylake but without upgrades and if you are someone with fame i wouldnt suggest it. the i7 is betah due to 4 extra threads maybe less OC'able than skylake one but its more powerfull and if you can get ssd that would be jackpot ;P

[TomXD1]

2 minutes ago, manofsteel said:

If you like the botnet and spyware windows 10 then go for skylake if you want full support for lets say windows 8.1 (by that i mean all updates untill 202x ) because skylake processors on older system will propably have problem with updates (it can cause system to not boot or boot loop or some instability cuz you dont know what microshit did to their products to make user switch systems with this procesors ) if you dont plan on upgrades you can go ahead and pick skylake but without upgrades and if you are someone with fame i wouldnt suggest it. the i7 is betah due to 4 extra threads maybe less OC'able than skylake one but its more powerfull and if you can get ssd that would be jackpot ;P

I really like Windows 10 and would be sticking with that OS haha.

[manofsteel]

Just now, TomXD1 said:

I really like Windows 10 and would be sticking with that OS haha.

Well thats your choice for me privacy is more valuable because EVEN on 8.1 with its shits microshit gets less data than on win 10 and i not dumb person to get some ransomware :P. anyway i would say go for skylake but before you will do so ask yourself if you rly need a K version because you could go with i5 6600 or 6500 that arent bad for gaming alone . If you want to do some creative stuff like graphic then i would still recommend going with that i7 option but i am not sure how it will perform because windows 10 is untained beast that can suprise a lot of ppl with its crap (not saying that win 7 or 8.1 were ideal but win 10 is in the same time line and same spot like it was with vista and windows 8 ... i hope you get the point). AND IF you rly want a gaming boost with SSD and do no heavy liftin workload then i would go for i5 4690 K which will peform similar to skylake but you lose 4 threads for cheaper processor

[i_build_nanosuits]

i think option 1 is your best option personally.

[TomXD1]

3 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Z97 PC Mate for 4790K? Thats no way to treat a lady...

So 6600K. No loss if you don't need HT

I'm open to suggestions.

[TomXD1]

5 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Go option 2

Don't skimp on the mobo to accommodate for an i7

You will regret when it shits all over your OC

What if I were to change that mobo for the MSI Z97 Gaming 3?

[manofsteel]

28 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Should be better but I'm not sure

What matters for overclocking is the true VRM phase count/type used on the mobo

More true phases and true digital PWM will help with OC stability

 

You can refer to these charts for detailed info:

Latest Z97 VRM chart from overclock.net

Older, longer chart from Sin

Why VRM design matters

Simplified Z97 tier list

 

No such lists/charts for Z170 yet I'm afraid

well i got z170 msi gaming m3 and my i5 is on 4,4 GHz and i propably could hit 4,5 so i wouldnt say thats bad. Yes the vram is important when it comes to OC but it depends how much OC you want and lets not forget that even if he/she gets nice board like m5 or so the OC could be bad because of silicon lottery

[TomXD1]

I'd be looking at a 4.5ghz oc on either chip.

[manual mode]

1 hour ago, manofsteel said:

Well thats your choice for me privacy is more valuable because EVEN on 8.1 with its shits microshit gets less data than on win 10 and i not dumb person to get some ransomware :P. anyway i would say go for skylake but before you will do so ask yourself if you rly need a K version because you could go with i5 6600 or 6500 that arent bad for gaming alone . If you want to do some creative stuff like graphic then i would still recommend going with that i7 option but i am not sure how it will perform because windows 10 is untained beast that can suprise a lot of ppl with its crap (not saying that win 7 or 8.1 were ideal but win 10 is in the same time line and same spot like it was with vista and windows 8 ... i hope you get the point). AND IF you rly want a gaming boost with SSD and do no heavy liftin workload then i would go for i5 4690 K which will peform similar to skylake but you lose 4 threads for cheaper processor

tbh i can safely say at this point anybody who doesn't get windows 10 because of "privacy issues" is simply ignorant

 

you can disable things you know

 

and no reason to hold off from a way better OS than any before

[manofsteel]

1 hour ago, manual mode said:

tbh i can safely say at this point anybody who doesn't get windows 10 because of "privacy issues" is simply ignorant

 

you can disable things you know

 

and no reason to hold off from a way better OS than any before

and for me ppl who says bullshit like this are ignorants to their own goods . Lets put it this way than, Win 10 is now free but got shit loads of advertisments, do you know where they come from? not from MS alone but from some advertisment corporation that MS sells them an information about us like what we are lookin here on internet. Still not enough? You can ofc disable most of things, MOST not all and MS can give zero fucks about it becasue next update and a big suprise all shit is enabled again and has diffrent commands or names . Still you want resist? mkay . How about things like remote controll that MS gets over your PC IN A LEGAL WAY, because i doubt that other systems had this in mind so if they take over some PC on win 8 without your approval you can simply accuse them for doing such thing and please spare me bullshit about thing thats their system. They invent it but once we buy it we got a little more rights to it (customer ones  ofc i can be wrong on law here :P) . If thats still does not make you believe how bad win 10 is then lets put like this ... YOU GONNA SOON PAY FOR APPS that should be put in system first, optimalisation was big issue too but it seems to be lesser degree now.

OH and one more thing, ppl have huge problem with even activation of system becasue it does not recognize DNS and you need to tell MS about it in other words you just simply tell them about what kind of internet structure you got in da house like "hi microsoft backdoor me because i told you dns of my provider and ip from router or modem ) atleast i think that way.

 

Tell me now pros that will hammerjet those cons of mine?

[manual mode]

1 minute ago, manofsteel said:

and for me ppl who says bullshit like this are ignorants to their own goods . Lets put it this way than, Win 10 is now free but got shit loads of advertisments, do you know where they come from? not from MS alone but from some advertisment corporation that MS sells them an information about us like what we are lookin here on internet. Still not enough? You can ofc disable most of things, MOST not all and MS can give zero fucks about it becasue next update and a big suprise all shit is enabled again and has diffrent commands or names . Still you want resist? mkay . How about things like remote controll that MS gets over your PC IN A LEGAL WAY, because i doubt that other systems had this in mind so if they take over some PC on win 8 without your approval you can simply accuse them for doing such thing and please spare me bullshit about thing thats their system. They invent it but once we buy it we got a little more rights to it (customer ones  ofc i can be wrong on law here :P) . If thats still does not make you believe how bad win 10 is then lets put like this ... YOU GONNA SOON PAY FOR APPS that should be put in system first, optimalisation was big issue too but it seems to be lesser degree now.

OH and one more thing, ppl have huge problem with even activation of system becasue it does not recognize DNS and you need to tell MS about it in other words you just simply tell them about what kind of internet structure you got in da house like "hi microsoft backdoor me because i told you dns of my provider and ip from router or modem ) atleast i think that way.

 

Tell me now pros that will hammerjet those cons of mine?

i couldn't really read any of your cons because you are as close to illiterate as somebody can get WITHOUT actually being illiterate

[manofsteel]

7 minutes ago, manual mode said:

i couldn't really read any of your cons because you are as close to illiterate as somebody can get WITHOUT actually being illiterate

sorry mrs perfect that you are dealing with not native english speaker and btw SOME OF WORDS CAN BE USED IN BRITISH ENGLISH AND SOMETIMES I USE SOME FROM USA , so yea i am  illiterate  good for ya

 

EDIT:

And if you cant read or dont bother better dont assume that ppl are ignorant and go somewhere else fatty fanboy of mshit

[manual mode]

Just now, manofsteel said:

sorry mrs perfect that you are dealing with not native english speaker and btw SOME OF WORDS CAN BE USED IN BRITISH ENGLISH AND SOMETIMES I USE SOME FROM USA , so yea i am  illiterate  good for ya

k

[manofsteel]

1 hour ago, TomXD1 said:

I'd be looking at a 4.5ghz oc on either chip.

okay sorry for offtop but this kind of guys piss me off...  back to topic, on Skylake you can easily hit that 4,5 with decent cooler and mobo but on haswell i doubt cuz they are hotter than Skylake and dont OC well so if you get the 4,3 is still not bad for it. 

[manual mode]

On 3/21/2016 at 3:18 PM, manofsteel said:

 

Late response, sorry babe, but basically what I've got from this conversation is that you are a little, immature child who should not be allowed to access the internet.