Maxwell: GK110 [True or False]

[Focux]

As above, I'm gonna say false..anyone else has differing opinions.?

[M-ursu]

nobody knows

[Dravic]

As above, I'm gonna say false..anyone else has differing opinions.?

 

What?

 

GK110 is GeForce Kepler GPU chip, supposedly flagship of 2012 Kepler lineup but postponed till 2013 due to poor AMD Radeons performance (7970 vs low-end GK104 chip). GK110 was released as Tesla card meanwhile GK104 was released as gaming GPU top of the line. Further down the line GK110 was also adopted as GTX Titan/780.

 

Maxwell was announced long time ago as new, 20nm GeForce architecture. Was repeatedly postponed, current due date is second half of 2014.

[Focux]

What?

GK110 is GeForce Kepler GPU chip, supposedly flagship of 2012 Kepler lineup but postponed till 2013 due to poor AMD Radeons performance (7970 vs low-end GK104 chip). GK110 was released as Tesla card meanwhile GK104 was released as gaming GPU top of the line. Further down the line GK110 was also adopted as GTX Titan/780.

Maxwell was announced long time ago as new, 20nm GeForce architecture. Was repeatedly postponed, current due date is second half of 2014.

I'm aware, thank you.

[xAcid9]

How can a new architecture use a previous architecture? 

 

[Focux]

How can a new architecture use a previous architecture?

Naming..I know it's called Maxwell. "GK..?"

[Bluuz]

Naming..I know it's called Maxwell. "GK..?"

Fermi: Gtx 400 and 500

Kepler (aka "GK"): Gtx 600 and 700

Maxwell: Gtx 800...

[A/C]

What?

 

GK110 is GeForce Kepler GPU chip, supposedly flagship of 2012 Kepler lineup but postponed till 2013 due to poor AMD Radeons performance (7970 vs low-end GK104 chip). GK110 was released as Tesla card meanwhile GK104 was released as gaming GPU top of the line. Further down the line GK110 was also adopted as GTX Titan/780.

 

Maxwell was announced long time ago as new, 20nm GeForce architecture. Was repeatedly postponed, current due date is second half of 2014.

 

Q1 2014 boy-o, latest info 28nm suggested, but not confirmed.

 

How can a new architecture use a previous architecture? 

 

 

 

Ooh, but nvidia loves that kind of play

 

 

Fermi: Gtx 400 and 500

Kepler (aka "GK"): Gtx 600 and 700

Maxwell: Gtx 800...

 

 

What "aka GK" every chip has its codename, before GK1** was GF1** and so on (GK being "GraphicsKepler, GF being GraphicsFermi, so i speculate maxwell will be GM for GraphicsMaxwell :mind blown, are ya?: )... It's like Nehalem form intel, or Piledriver from AMD...

 

Personally I wouldn't bet my money on it, maxwell is famously know for being the first gpu line that will uzilize arm technology via so-called "project Denver" and unified access memory. But at this point anything is speculation. Nvidia only confirmed that maxwell is go in Q1 2014.

[Focux]

Q1 2014 boy-o, latest info 28nm suggested, but not confirmed.

Ooh, but nvidia loves that kind of play

What "aka GK" every chip has its codename, before GK1** was GF1** and so on (GK being "GraphicsKepler, GF being GraphicsFermi, so i speculate maxwell will be GM for GraphicsMaxwell :mind blown, are ya?: )... It's like Nehalem form intel, or Piledriver from AMD...

Personally I wouldn't bet my money on it, maxwell is famously know for being the first gpu line that will uzilize arm technology via so-called "project Denver" and unified access memory. But at this point anything is speculation. Nvidia only confirmed that maxwell is go in Q1 2014.

Thank you! Very comprehensive answer!

[RespawnCake]

Well seeing that gtx780 is gk110 i would say yes

[Focux]

Well seeing that gtx780 is gk110 i would say yes

Part of me thought so too! But who knows lol

[Dravic]

Q1 2014 boy-o, latest info 28nm suggested, but not confirmed.

Ooh, but nvidia loves that kind of play

What "aka GK" every chip has its codename, before GK1** was GF1** and so on (GK being "GraphicsKepler, GF being GraphicsFermi, so i speculate maxwell will be GM for GraphicsMaxwell :mind blown, are ya?: )... It's like Nehalem form intel, or Piledriver from AMD...

Personally I wouldn't bet my money on it, maxwell is famously know for being the first gpu line that will uzilize arm technology via so-called "project Denver" and unified access memory. But at this point anything is speculation. Nvidia only confirmed that maxwell is go in Q1 2014.

Thank you! Very comprehensive answer!

He's spreading false info don't listen to him what the hell did you smoke to talk about denver if when titan was announced nvidia talked about no denver in Maxwell 20nm but rather in Volta... If anything for now.

[Focux]

He's spreading false info don't listen to him what the hell did you smoke to talk about denver if when titan was announced nvidia talked about no denver in Maxwell 20nm but rather in Volta... If anything for now.

I understand your point. But pls don't phrase it like wot Mr. Expert does.

[A/C]

Meh, @Dravic is a known flamer and hater on this forum, all of my claims I can back up with facts, he on the other hand, can't:

 

http://videocardz.com/45417/why-maxwell-will-probably-launch-on-28nm-process

http://videocardz.com/45403/nvidia-to-launch-more-cards-this-year-maxwell-in-q1-2014

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-roadmap-confirms-20nm-maxwell-gpus-2014-kepler-refresh-arrives-1h-2013/

http://raytracey.blogspot.com/2011/01/nvidias-project-denver-to-appear-first.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Denver

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More info available on google

 

I understand your point. But pls don't phrase it like wot Mr. Expert does.

 

 

EDIT: Added another link.

[felixbearpig]

it would be GM110

kepler= GK110

fermi =GF110

pattern anyone?

[A/C]

it would be GM110

kepler= GK110

fermi =GF110

pattern anyone?

 

yupp

[Dravic]

Meh, @Dravic is a known flamer and hater on this forum, all of my claims I can back up with facts, he on the other hand, can't:

 

http://videocardz.com/45417/why-maxwell-will-probably-launch-on-28nm-process

http://videocardz.com/45403/nvidia-to-launch-more-cards-this-year-maxwell-in-q1-2014

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-roadmap-confirms-20nm-maxwell-gpus-2014-kepler-refresh-arrives-1h-2013/

http://raytracey.blogspot.com/2011/01/nvidias-project-denver-to-appear-first.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Denver

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More info available on google

 

 

 

EDIT: Added another link.

 

You are giving rumors as 'facts'? LoL.

 

 

http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2013/03/19/nvidia-ceo-updates-nvidias-roadmap/

 

THIS is a good source. Straight from Nvidia @ anno domini 2013.

[A/C]

You are giving rumors as 'facts'? LoL.

 

 

http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2013/03/19/nvidia-ceo-updates-nvidias-roadmap/

 

THIS is a good source. Straight from Nvidia @ anno domini 2013.

 

Sure thing bro, Q1 2013 isn't so far away, so we'll se who was wrong... And that article is almost 7 months old now, where the article from videocardz.com is less than a month old, which is approximately when it was announced. And roadmaps change (Maxwell was originally announced for 2013) It could be a deterring strategy from nvidia to delay people from buying the AMD R9 series cards tho'. But I didn't make that up... In any case, I don't plan on being a keyboard warrior against a flamer. Good luck sir!

[Dravic]

Sure thing bro, Q1 2013 isn't so far away, so we'll se who was wrong... And that article is almost 7 months old now, where the article from videocardz.com is less than a month old, which is approximately when it was announced. And roadmaps change (Maxwell was originally announced for 2013) It could be a deterring strategy from nvidia to delay people from buying the AMD R9 series cards tho'. But I didn't make that up... In any case, I don't plan on being a keyboard warrior against a flamer. Good luck sir!

 

You are talking about article based on rumor based on nothing beign more valuable source of information that official Nvidia stand as of 2013? Right.

 

Yes it's best to call me a flamer when the facts start being too hot to argue with.

[Focux]

Wait, so Denver is Maxwell..? So that means my 780 will become a POS once Maxwell comes out..!?

[Dravic]

Wait, so Denver is Maxwell..? So that means my 780 will become a POS once Maxwell comes out..!?

 

Denver has been only announced as 'still being researched' this year and is aimed to launch with mobile Parker SoC in some time. Nothing about desktop GPUs for now.

[A/C]

Wait, so Denver is Maxwell..? So that means my 780 will become a POS once Maxwell comes out..!?

 

No, Denver is technology by nvidia integrating ARM cores with an x86 to make a SOC of sorts, and Maxwell would theoretically utilize those arm cores with a gpu core and unified virtual memory. And no 780 won't POS when that comes out by any means. In reality I don't think Maxwell will manage to bring that kind of technology so soon TBH, but they've said it many times...

[Dravic]

No, Denver is technology by nvidia integrating ARM cores with an x86 to make a SOC of sorts, and Maxwell would theoretically utilize those arm cores with a gpu core and unified virtual memory. And no 780 won't POS when that comes out by any means. In reality I don't think Maxwell will manage to bring that kind of technology so soon TBH, but they've said it many times...

 

Nvidia cannot integrate x86, again, what the hell did you smoke? Only Intel, AMD and VIA has rights to work on legacy x86 development. Unless Nvidia pairs with one of these or somehow obtains rights (they need to FIRST obtain the rights before starting any research and as far as I know they already tried and failed) they cannot do this.

[Focux]

Yay! So my USD650 won't go to utter waste then!?

[A/C]

Nvidia cannot integrate x86, again, what the hell did you smoke? Only Intel, AMD and VIA has rights to work on legacy x86 development. Unless Nvidia pairs with one of these or somehow obtains rights (they need to FIRST obtain the rights before starting any research and as far as I know they already tried and failed) they cannot do this.

 

Nice try, I didn't say Nvidia utilizes it on its chips, it's an analogy to the technology concept. I was wrong in writing x86 when I should have written x64 I'll geve you that. But as I was using it only as an analogy no harm done there.

 

Quote from wikipedia article on Project Denver: "The existence of Project Denver was revealed at the 2011 Consumer Electronics Show.^[2] In a March 4, 2011 Q&A article CEO Jen-Hsun Huang revealed that Project Denver is a five year 64-bit ARM architecture CPU development on which hundreds of engineers had already worked for three and half years and which also has 32-bit ARM architecture backward compatibility.^[3] Project was started in Stexar company (Colorado) as x86-compatible processor using binary translation like in Transmeta's projects. Stexar was acquired by Nvidia in 2006."