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Hello..

 

So I have a question regarding to upgrading my GPU, as I currently stand on a position of whatever or not to upgrade or not to upgrade.

Been asking the same question from another website, and I get insulted that my uncle who is an IT guy is screwing me over.

 

I want to upgrade from AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB to nVidia - first one was nvidia geforce 750TI 4GB then we went to 950 and last one is 960 Gaming 4GB.

So, here is where I stand with a problem, the question is should I upgrade or not, cos my PC is actually bottlenecked and my GPU is kind of "old".

 

And now, I want your help, from someone who can help me without insulting me or my uncle for "screwing me over"..

I need a viable information which can help me..

 

Why I want to upgrade?

Answer: I would like to be able to run current games with 720p/1080p 60FPS while recording the game play at the same time, I have no issues currently with it, but since newer games come out and require better GPU then I thought I should upgrade and whenever I need to upgrade, I will do so once again.

 

Thanks for your dedication on this thread and helping me out

 

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How much do you have to spend? Can you wait for Pascal and Polaris, or are you desperate for a new GPU now? What kind of settings level are you interested in using at 1080p@60fps? What are the specs of the rest of your system? 

 

We need a bit more information before anyone can give you a decent answer :)

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welcome to the forum

 

whats your rig? cpu, psu, ram etc

whats your budget?

 

i'd recommend team red ( amd ) GPU for "lower" budgets, check the lineup in my signature

you could get a r9 380 for like 200bucks and run games with high settings 1080p if i'm not wrong

 

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What is your CPU?

If you are thinking of the 960 why not the 380?

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6 minutes ago, Matt100HP said:

How much do you have to spend? Can you wait for Pascal and Polaris, or are you desperate for a new GPU now? What kind of settings level are you interested in using at 1080p@60fps? What are the specs of the rest of your system? 

 

We need a bit more information before anyone can give you a decent answer :)

Well.. My computer is pretty decent, here are some specs.

Intel i7-3770k 3.4Ghz

8GB of Ram (I don't know the brand or Hz)

1TB Hdd (Don't know the brand for it either)

Motherboard is: Asus - P8H77-M LE

 

and setting I find favorable to run at 720p/1080p@60FPS is high or ultra (depending on a game) - Tomb Raider maximum.

 

Edit: I also find nVidia favorable to me, since I've used AMD for far too long and in a way I like nVidia better for some unexplained reasons.

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2 minutes ago, Bl00dgod said:

welcome to the forum

 

whats your rig? cpu, psu, ram etc

whats your budget?

 

i'd recommend team red ( amd ) GPU for "lower" budgets, check the lineup in my signature

you could get a r9 390 for like 200bucks and run games with high settings 1080p if i'm not wrong

An R9 390 costs way more than $200, they seem to be ~$350 on Amazon.com

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meant r9 380

 

you could also target getting a nice sweet SSD to improve your dayli comfort

something like a 250gb samsung 850evo

 

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2 minutes ago, Matt100HP said:

An R9 390 costs way more than $200, they seem to be ~$350 on Amazon.com

He meant R9 380. The cheapest being the Sapphire Nitro current at $174~ including a pen MiR

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1 minute ago, SanderThePanda said:

Well.. My computer is pretty decent, here are some specs.

Intel i7-3770k 3.4Ghz

8GB of Ram (I don't know the brand or Hz)

1TB Hdd (Don't know the brand for it either)

 

and setting I find favorable to run at 720p/1080p@60FPS is high or ultra (depending on a game) - Tomb Raider maximum.

What PSU have you got? 

 

Assuming you mean the new Tomb Raider, to max it out at 1080p 60fps you need some serious horsepower; like 980Ti levels of power. My 970 @ 1550Mhz isn't capable of maxing it out and that's a far more powerful card than the 750Ti, 950 or 960. 

 

You have a good PC, it would almost be a disservice to the 3770k to pair it with a 960 level GPU, it deserves better :P

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2 minutes ago, SanderThePanda said:

Well.. My computer is pretty decent, here are some specs.

Intel i7-3770k 3.4Ghz

8GB of Ram (I don't know the brand or Hz)

1TB Hdd (Don't know the brand for it either)

 

and setting I find favorable to run at 720p/1080p@60FPS is high or ultra (depending on a game) - Tomb Raider maximum.

An r9 380 is a good choice here it is more powerful then the 960 (albeit more power hungry) and most times cheaper. But if you want 1080p 60 high/ultra on most games you would need a 970 or r9 390.

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3 minutes ago, SanderThePanda said:

Well.. My computer is pretty decent, here are some specs.

Intel i7-3770k 3.4Ghz

8GB of Ram (I don't know the brand or Hz)

1TB Hdd (Don't know the brand for it either)

 

and setting I find favorable to run at 720p/1080p@60FPS is high or ultra (depending on a game) - Tomb Raider maximum.

It's not "pretty decent", it's a VERY good machine. You can throw in pretty much any GPU you'd like.

 

We just need to know a few things:

  1. The PSU. Actually, the PSU's model. We need to know that, as you may / may not need to get a new one
  2. Your budget. Duh. How much are you willing to spend?

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3 minutes ago, Matt100HP said:

What PSU have you got? 

 

Assuming you mean the new Tomb Raider, to max it out at 1080p 60fps you need some serious horsepower; like 980Ti levels of power. My 970 @ 1550Mhz isn't capable of maxing it out and that's a far more powerful card than the 750Ti, 950 or 960. 

 

You have a good PC, it would almost be a disservice to the 3770k to pair it with a 960 level GPU, it deserves better :P

PSU is the power thingy right? Ugh, I don't remember how good it was =/

 

Edit 1: budged would be around 300 euros.

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"the power thingy" mostly have a big label on the side with wattage and name

otherwise you could read the informations printed on it

 

dont forget to look for a SSD this will improve your "dayli workflow", thats what happened to me after my first crucial

 

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2 hours ago, SanderThePanda said:

Hello..

 

So I have a question regarding to upgrading my GPU, as I currently stand on a position of whatever or not to upgrade or not to upgrade.

Been asking the same question from another website, and I get insulted that my uncle who is an IT guy is screwing me over.

 

I want to upgrade from AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB to nVidia - first one was nvidia geforce 750TI 4GB then we went to 950 and last one is 960 Gaming 4GB.

So, here is where I stand with a problem, the question is should I upgrade or not, cos my PC is actually bottlenecked and my GPU is kind of "old".

 

And now, I want your help, from someone who can help me without insulting me or my uncle for "screwing me over"..

I need a viable information which can help me..

 

Why I want to upgrade?

Answer: I would like to be able to run current games with 720p/1080p 60FPS while recording the game play at the same time, I have no issues currently with it, but since newer games come out and require better GPU then I thought I should upgrade and whenever I need to upgrade, I will do so once again.

 

Thanks for your dedication on this thread and helping me out

 

 

Your 7850(aka r7 370, aka r7 265)  sits in between the 750 Ti and the 950. Going with either of the cards wouldn't be that worth it. 

 

You should start looking the 970 and above for 1080p/60fps recording. 

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4 hours ago, Pohernori said:

 

Your 7850(aka r7 370, aka r7 265)  sits in between the 750 Ti and the 950. Going with either of the cards wouldn't be that worth it. 

 

You should start looking the 970 and above for 1080p/60fps recording. 

Yeah, I wanna go with this one:VGA GF GTX960 4GB which is 295 euros, and that ain't cheap...

 

Okay, I get it that 960 isn't that good compare to 970 but I honestly want to keep it under 300 Euros, and I know people will say that then just keep your current one, but I don't know I have grown tired of AMD =/

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1 hour ago, SanderThePanda said:

Yeah, I wanna go with this one:VGA GF GTX960 4GB which is 295 euros, and that ain't cheap...

 

Okay, I get it that 960 isn't that good compare to 970 but I honestly want to keep it under 300 Euros, and I know people will say that then just keep your current one, but I don't know I have grown tired of AMD =/

295 Euros for a 960 is massively overpriced; you can get a 970 for about 320-330 Euros off any one of the EU Amazon sites. It's definitely worth the extra 20-30 Euros over your 300 Euro budget. However, if you're getting a 970 level GPU just for gaming, you might as well get the R9 390; it's slightly better overall and can be had for about the same price.  

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10 hours ago, TheRandomness said:

An R9 380 will perform better than all of the options you suggested and costs less than a 960. 

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2 hours ago, Matt100HP said:

295 Euros for a 960 is massively overpriced; you can get a 970 for about 320-330 Euros off any one of the EU Amazon sites. It's definitely worth the extra 20-30 Euros over your 300 Euro budget. However, if you're getting a 970 level GPU just for gaming, you might as well get the R9 390; it's slightly better overall and can be had for about the same price.  

Like I have previously mentioned now that I'm sick of stomach about AMD, I've had it most of my computers I've had, once I had with Geforce, I really liked it. I have nothing against AMD or any of the sort, but I want to have chance. And I'm not going to be getting 960 if things go well.

 

Not to mention, my uncle doesn't buy stuff from amazon, I bet he gets things from makers just like Linus does.

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7 hours ago, SanderThePanda said:

Yeah, I wanna go with this one:VGA GF GTX960 4GB which is 295 euros, and that ain't cheap...

 

Okay, I get it that 960 isn't that good compare to 970 but I honestly want to keep it under 300 Euros, and I know people will say that then just keep your current one, but I don't know I have grown tired of AMD =/

 

Then you just have to save up more money. And right now, the arrival of next gen cards is coming soon. You've picked the worst possible card at the worst possible time to upgrade to. 

 

If possible, I'd suggest looking at what nvidia/amd will have at that price bracket.

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