Help with buying new cpu

[Arcanekitten]

Hi !

i am familiar with cpu's so don't need any tech answers but need advice on buying new second hand stuff.

I saw this i7 3820 which isn't as powerful as a i5 4690k but is available at 125 euro so is this a good deal or is it kinda shit? 

 

[OveratedCPU]

is it unlocked ?

[Arcanekitten]

5 minutes ago, OveratedCPU said:

is it unlocked ?

It's the i7 3820 with NO K so I don't think so.

[OveratedCPU]

Just now, Arcanekitten said:

It's the i7 3820 with NO K so I don't think so.

soooo if you want an overclockable chip get an K version , id suggest an 4690k i have an 4790k , haswell is beast ocer

[Arcanekitten]

Just now, OveratedCPU said:

soooo if you want an overclockable chip get an K version , id suggest an 4690k i have an 4790k , haswell is beast ocer

I am not asking for a overclockable chip but I asked if the cpu is worth buying for 125 euros.

[OveratedCPU]

1 minute ago, Arcanekitten said:

I am not asking for a overclockable chip but I asked if the cpu is worth buying for 125 euros.

what will you be doing with the chip ?

[Arcanekitten]

Just now, OveratedCPU said:

what will you be doing with the chip ?

just gaming not any editing work.

[OveratedCPU]

well ofcourse its an ideal chip , but id rather go with an i7 2600k or something like that , x79 is an extreme board , meant for heavy use , but it really depends on the games you play

for example like simulations like assetto corsa or project cars or anything that has to calculate and simulate with loads of assetts will be cpu hungry

but this chip is a beast , i dont see any bottlenecks you could have so yes id go for it !

[Arcanekitten]

Just now, OveratedCPU said:

well ofcourse its an ideal chip , but id rather go with an i7 2600k or something like that , x79 is an extreme board , meant for heavy use , but it really depends on the games you play

for example like simulations like assetto corsa or project cars or anything that has to calculate and simulate with loads of assetts will be cpu hungry

but this chip is a beast , i dont see any bottlenecks you could have so yes id go for it !

I play loads of games from cities skylines to GTA 5 to papers please also a lot of physics games.

[OveratedCPU]

well bear in mind as games i noticed , assetto corsa for ex demands alot of physics if you have 20 or 30 cpu controlled cars , but look at all your cores ! work will be dispatched in no time !

[OveratedCPU]

+ dx12 or vulkan will help you get those cores to load off load ! so yeah despite being old i havent seen much from cpu designs apart ddr4 and higher ram speeds or nvme support but nothing so special to get another chip ! i was thinking about getting an x79 but its an big mobo ! i think ! well dont take my preference for the cpu , wait till some one agrees or disagrees on this post , but you can tap on youtube you have alot of gaming videos with that chip that run like butter

[Arcanekitten]

37 minutes ago, OveratedCPU said:

+ dx12 or vulkan will help you get those cores to load off load ! so yeah despite being old i havent seen much from cpu designs apart ddr4 and higher ram speeds or nvme support but nothing so special to get another chip ! i was thinking about getting an x79 but its an big mobo ! i think ! well dont take my preference for the cpu , wait till some one agrees or disagrees on this post , but you can tap on youtube you have alot of gaming videos with that chip that run like butter

Also keep in mind since i life in the netherlands with the VAT of 21% a new 3820 cost 400 euro's so its a pretty good/okay deal

[Arcanekitten]

To put in context a 2600 costs 130 euro's and 2600k 160 euro's (second hand)

[DunePilot]

Sounds good to me especially since the Euro isn't worth crap right now just like the Canadian dollar.

[Arcanekitten]

Just now, DunePilot said:

Sounds good to me especially since the Euro isn't worth crap right now just like the Canadian dollar.

well its not to bad to be honest its just the VAT which you need to pay for a product which is 21% so any product which you buy in the US add 21% to it thats how much it costs here  and since 1 dollar is worth 0.92 euro euro is better but with the vat not

[DunePilot]

What I am seeing is a chip for the 2011 socket though, are we talking about the same thing? Do you already have a board or no?

[Swndlr]

Get the 4690K

[Arcanekitten]

7 minutes ago, DunePilot said:

What I am seeing is a chip for the 2011 socket though, are we talking about the same thing? Do you already have a board or no?

I know its the socket 2011 and its not the most budget friendly but i saw a pretty nice one for 120 euro's so i guess thats solved

[Arcanekitten]

7 minutes ago, Swndlr said:

Get the 4690K

thats easy to say but this is 55% of the price of the 4690k and is a tiny bit worse.

[Swndlr]

1 minute ago, Arcanekitten said:

thats easy to say but this is 55% of the price of the 4690k and is a tiny bit worse.

If youre going to look further into the 3820, Id suggest going to wherever it is and doing some tests with it to see if its performing correctly, if it is, then go for it. I hope whoever youre buying it from has a motherboard to go with it as well because idk about your area, but where Im from, finding X79 motherboards for a good price is impossible.

[DunePilot]

4 minutes ago, Arcanekitten said:

I know its the socket 2011 and its not the most budget friendly but i saw a pretty nice one for 120 euro's so i guess thats solved

Be sure you can find a good deal on a 2011 motherboard before you dish out the money on the cpu. 2011 socket has a handful of unlocked 8 core Xeons as well but they are still floating around $800 used.

[Arcanekitten]

18 hours ago, Swndlr said:

If youre going to look further into the 3820, Id suggest going to wherever it is and doing some tests with it to see if its performing correctly, if it is, then go for it. I hope whoever youre buying it from has a motherboard to go with it as well because idk about your area, but where Im from, finding X79 motherboards for a good price is impossible.

yeah just thought about it, i just saw one for 120 euro's and a 4690k which is better costs 60-100 euro's more so thats a pretty good.

[Arcanekitten]

18 hours ago, Swndlr said:

If youre going to look further into the 3820, Id suggest going to wherever it is and doing some tests with it to see if its performing correctly, if it is, then go for it. I hope whoever youre buying it from has a motherboard to go with it as well because idk about your area, but where Im from, finding X79 motherboards for a good price is impossible.

 

18 hours ago, DunePilot said:

Be sure you can find a good deal on a 2011 motherboard before you dish out the money on the cpu. 2011 socket has a handful of unlocked 8 core Xeons as well but they are still floating around $800 used.

Is the Asus P9-X79 Pro a good mobo?

[DunePilot]

23 minutes ago, Arcanekitten said:

 

Is the Asus P9-X79 Pro a good mobo?

Anything by Asus or Gigabyte is usually top notch. What price did you find it for? Looking at resale I am seeing $300-500.... insane. If you are going to be spending $600ish for a cpu and motherboard you would be better suited going with a X99 board for around $200 and a 5820k for whatever they are going for... usually around $380-90 maybe cheaper if they are on sale. That would put you on a better platform for the same price and brand new. Also you have more upgrade paths in the future, say... the 10 core 6960X coming out.

 

[Arcanekitten]

15 minutes ago, DunePilot said:

Anything by Asus or Gigabyte is usually top notch. What price did you find it for? Looking at resale I am seeing $300-500.... insane. If you are going to be spending $600ish for a cpu and motherboard you would be better suited going with a X99 board for around $200 and a 5820k for whatever they are going for... usually around $380-90 maybe cheaper if they are on sale. That would put you on a better platform for the same price and brand new. Also you have more upgrade paths in the future, say... the 10 core 6960X coming out.

 

The Asus P9-X79 Pro is for 120 euro's available second hand so i guess not too bad ?