Apple vs FBI

[TidaLWaveZ]

A nice read if you are interested in the case

 

http://www.macworld.com/article/3038355/security/the-5-biggest-reveals-from-apples-motion-to-dismiss-the-fbis-court-order.html

 

 

No, I didn't go to Macworld.com out of my own free will, it was a link from a news site.

[AlbinoTexan]

Fbi can suck a fat one 

[SaladFingers]

I'm glad android is open source. Can't really sneak a backdoor like that without someone noticing. I feel like Apple's stance is the right approach, they shouldn't compromise their user's privacy like that, no matter the reason. If what FBI asks is done, then they might as well get rid of encryption altogether, as having a backdoor defeats the very purpose of its existence.

 

Oh yeah, FBI is a bunch of incompetent plebs. They better go back to IRC and use girl names to bait for predators. That's all they know about technology.

[RuLeZ]

Damn, I never liked Apple, but after this FBI thing, I am really considering buying an iPhone.

[TidaLWaveZ]

3 minutes ago, RuLeZ said:

Damn, I never liked Apple, but after this FBI thing, I am really considering buying an iPhone.

 

Calm down RuLez, we don't need to go that far.

[GoodBytes]

Moved to General Discussion

[mathmeister]

My parents don't understand the importance of privacy and think I don't have anything to hide so let them snoop around. That's the equivalent of saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say as Snowden said. Their main argument is that we should be doing everything to catch the terrorists and while that is a very valid argument, you need to ask yourself: at what cost? Yes we will get information that may help us prevent future attacks but we will loose whatever privacy we have left to the government and iPhones will be open season for hackers.

 

not that long but tl;dr fuck the bad guys but fuck the FBI even more

[MasonTheEpic]

For once I'm completely with Apple with this one. If your bank made someone a master key to all of the safety deposit boxes (including yours, lets assume you have one) and gave it to the government for the purpose of opening one, the only thing that would stop them from opening all of them would be a promise? The U.S. government breaks promises every day, why would this lead me to believe that they would keep this one?  Plus this would open the doors to hackers as well, if you make a universal key, then one exploit would open all of the phones. 

[GoodBytes]

Not that I disagree with you. But the government or the bank can get a locksmith. Just saying

[Bhav]

This whole case is akin to stating that if a criminal drove a Mercedes, then Mercedes are somehow responsible.

 

If the FBI want to hack into this guy's phone, then they should figure out how to do it themselves without bothering Apple.

[TidaLWaveZ]

On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2016 at 1:45 AM, Bhav said:

This whole case is akin to stating that if a criminal drove a Mercedes, then Mercedes are somehow responsible.

 

If the FBI want to hack into this guy's phone, then they should figure out how to do it themselves without bothering Apple.

 

That was the first thing I thought(If the FBI want's into a phone, they should be capable of getting into it themselves).  The problem with this, as I was informed, is that they pretty much can't.

 

Apparently the iPhone has an option to only allow so many falied attempts(10 I believe) before the phone will wipe it's own storage completely.  This eliminates any real chance of brute force breaking the phones code to gain access.  So from what I understand, the only possible way to get into this phone would be to actually pass an update or alter the OS somehow to the point where the feature to only allow ten tries is disabled(At least from what I've heard).