Storage Solution Help

[LinusTech]

ES Xeons on eBay, man. 

 

The way to go for certain projects. 

 

So Chelan sometimes that even though there's no warranty you can literally just buy another one if it breaks and still be out ahead.. 

 

I bought a couple 2690 V3s for under $1000 combined. It was awesome. 

[dark_xzyph3r]

6 hours ago, LinusTech said:

I haven't looked back since we switched to unRAID, but I wouldn't recommend running FreeNAS in a VM on it (or in general unless you really know what you're doing) 

 

From my experience storage controller passthrough can be kinda flaky. 

 

Honestly I'm really happy with the performance of the unRAID storage array in its own anyway. Using SSDs to hide the slow array write speeds makes it as fast as I'll need for quite some time. 

What controllers are you using (the ones when your server died) and are you running 10gb or 20gb? 

 

6 hours ago, LinusTech said:

ES Xeons on eBay, man. 

 

The way to go for certain projects. 

 

So Chelan sometimes that even though there's no warranty you can literally just buy another one if it breaks and still be out ahead.. 

 

I bought a couple 2690 V3s for under $1000 combined. It was awesome. 

I picked up 2 Xeon x5550 for $20.. They have 4 cores 8 threads for a total of 16 threads

[scottyseng]

3 minutes ago, dark_xzyph3r said:

I picked up 2 Xeon x5550 for $20.. They have 4 cores 8 threads for a total of 16 threads

That's insane for $20...

 

I'm kind of tempted to not buy new consumer CPUs anymore and just keep buying engineering sample Xeon CPUs from ebay...

[leadeater]

1 minute ago, scottyseng said:

That's insane for $20...

 

I'm kind of tempted to not buy new consumer CPUs anymore and just keep buying engineering sample CPUs from ebay...

I think we all have too much money to spend on computer parts 

[LinusTech]

37 minutes ago, dark_xzyph3r said:

What controllers are you using (the ones when your server died) and are you running 10gb or 20gb? 

I am using lsi 9211-16i controllers right now. They're the ones 45 Drives uses in their Storinator products. 

 

I am planning to switch to a 24 port from Highpoint if I can since I'd like to avoid wasting that 2nd PCIe slot.

 

The controllers I was using at the time of the data loss were LSI 9271-8i but I don't believe it was my RAID card that caused the issue but rather a funky PCIe port on the motherboard. 

 

I am gradually switching our entire network over to 10G (within reason). The SSD server will definitely be 10G and maybe two interfaces with LACP. 

 

The reality of it though is that past a certain point unless you're just copying big files around there's not much benefit to a faster NAS and for our workflow (and I suspect many other people) the bottlenecks exist elsewhere 99% of the time - copying from SD cards or even SSDs, ending video to network destination etc. 

[dark_xzyph3r]

45 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

I am using lsi 9211-16i controllers right now. They're the ones 45 Drives uses in their Storinator products. 

 

I am planning to switch to a 24 port from Highpoint if I can since I'd like to avoid wasting that 2nd PCIe slot.

 

The controllers I was using at the time of the data loss were LSI 9271-8i but I don't believe it was my RAID card that caused the issue but rather a funky PCIe port on the motherboard. 

 

I am gradually switching our entire network over to 10G (within reason). The SSD server will definitely be 10G and maybe two interfaces with LACP. 

 

The reality of it though is that past a certain point unless you're just copying big files around there's not much benefit to a faster NAS and for our workflow (and I suspect many other people) the bottlenecks exist elsewhere 99% of the time - copying from SD cards or even SSDs, ending video to network destination etc. 

Maybe you could hook me up with an old raid card  I am wanting to grab another 10gb card just so I can say I have 20Gb to my server Do you think that unRaid would use all 20Gb that is available to it? Also do you know how I would connect all of my drives, Would I just use an HBA card or could I just use a Raid card and would unRaid read the drives from a raid controller? 

[LinusTech]

4 hours ago, dark_xzyph3r said:

Maybe you could hook me up with an old raid card  I am wanting to grab another 10gb card just so I can say I have 20Gb to my server Do you think that unRaid would use all 20Gb that is available to it? Also do you know how I would connect all of my drives, Would I just use an HBA card or could I just use a Raid card and would unRaid read the drives from a raid controller? 

It's not recommended to use RAID cards for any software RAID-like solution such as FreeNAS or unRAID. I would HIGHLY recommend that you stick with onboard ports or HBA add-in cards. I recently replaced all my RAID cards with HBAs for this reason.

 

As for buying another 10Gbit card, why not sell your single interface one and get a dual interface one? They are not much more expensive, actually, so you likely won't lose much on the deal.

[dark_xzyph3r]

4 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

It's not recommended to use RAID cards for any software RAID-like solution such as FreeNAS or unRAID. I would HIGHLY recommend that you stick with onboard ports or HBA add-in cards. I recently replaced all my RAID cards with HBAs for this reason.

 

As for buying another 10Gbit card, why not sell your single interface one and get a dual interface one? They are not much more expensive, actually, so you likely won't lose much on the deal.

I would sell my single one but I bought it for around $40 and was looking at dual ports and they are like $120.. Atleast when I looked when I bought my single one

[dark_xzyph3r]

34 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

It's not recommended to use RAID cards for any software RAID-like solution such as FreeNAS or unRAID. I would HIGHLY recommend that you stick with onboard ports or HBA add-in cards. I recently replaced all my RAID cards with HBAs for this reason.

 

As for buying another 10Gbit card, why not sell your single interface one and get a dual interface one? They are not much more expensive, actually, so you likely won't lose much on the deal.

 

Would one of these work for passing my drives through? http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Bulk-LSI-SAS31601E-16-Port-SAS-PCI-E-3Gb-s-HBA-SAS-SATA-Adapter-/251751935584?hash=item3a9d95ae60:g:Cv0AAOSwkNZUiIvf I know its external but I dont mind snaking my cables through a pci slot

[LinusTech]

43 minutes ago, dark_xzyph3r said:

 

Would one of these work for passing my drives through? http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Bulk-LSI-SAS31601E-16-Port-SAS-PCI-E-3Gb-s-HBA-SAS-SATA-Adapter-/251751935584?hash=item3a9d95ae60:g:Cv0AAOSwkNZUiIvf I know its external but I dont mind snaking my cables through a pci slot

Wow that's a ghetto solution.. I don't know much SFF-8088 to internal cables cost but as long as they don't offset the savings then I don't see why not.. 

 

Edit: make sure the OS you're using has drivers for the card. 

[dark_xzyph3r]

1 minute ago, LinusTech said:

Wow that's a ghetto solution.. I don't know much SFF-8088 to internal cables cost but as long as they don't offset the savings then I don't see why not.. 

 

Edit: make sure the OS you're using has drivers for the card. 

Will do, Thanks for helping me with this lol  Hopefully soon you will see this "beast" (In relative terms to my normal servers or rigs) server up and running, next week I am ordering parts

[dark_xzyph3r]

19 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

Wow that's a ghetto solution.. I don't know much SFF-8088 to internal cables cost but as long as they don't offset the savings then I don't see why not.. 

 

Edit: make sure the OS you're using has drivers for the card. 

So I found the internal version of that card for like $20 and is working 100% with unRaid

[LinusTech]

2 hours ago, dark_xzyph3r said:

So I found the internal version of that card for like $20 and is working 100% with unRaid

Took me a couple mins to figure out why it's so cheap. 

 

It's SATA 2.

 

As long as that doesn't bother you (many magnetic drives are still not bottlenecked by it) then that looks like a great route to go. 

[dark_xzyph3r]

7 hours ago, LinusTech said:

Took me a couple mins to figure out why it's so cheap. 

 

It's SATA 2.

 

As long as that doesn't bother you (many magnetic drives are still not bottlenecked by it) then that looks like a great route to go. 

Yeah, I am thinking, SSDs on the board for Sata 3, then fill the rest of my sata ports with HDDs