4K, Ultra wide, or 144hz? Do I even want G-Sync?

[TymmVonD]

Samsung UE590 by chance? Shipped mine back today. I had terrible BLB and flicker issues.

 

As for waiting it out, I probably wont get new cards for a year or more. And I've never really had a good display. I'd rather get more monitor at a lower res for the same money, if that makes sense. I think the 1440 144 ips a good choice for me at this time.

 

 

I can't seem to find any info on them supporting freesync.

The u28E590d is freesync. Which is also a TN, which doesn't generally have backlight bleed issues like IPS, and it's also a DC backlight for flicker free backlighting. Must've recieved an extrememly bad model. It isn't the best or prettiest 4K display out there, but it's way better than the display you received. I'd honestly get a replacement. There's a way better chance at "winning" the display "lottery" compared to the Asus and Acer horror story alot of us went through. I went through issues with the XR134ck and after reading the other horror stories, decided on the samsung. There's also the dell s2716dg monitor with really great luck for getting a quality panel. Was my second choice.

[Dackzy]

The u28E590d is freesync. Which is also a TN, which doesn't generally have backlight bleed issues like IPS, and it's also a DC backlight for flicker free backlighting. Must've recieved an extrememly bad model. It isn't the best or prettiest 4K display out there, but it's way better than the display you received. I'd honestly get a replacement. There's a way better chance at "winning" the display "lottery" compared to the Asus and Acer horror story alot of us went through. I went through issues with the XR134ck and after reading the other horror stories, decided on the samsung. There's also the dell s2716dg monitor with really great luck for getting a quality panel. Was my second choice.

IPS looks better than TN...

[TymmVonD]

IPS looks better than TN...

Thanks for your opinion, but yea...i know. I had the XR134CK before my Samsung 4K. I'd rather have fastest response over picture quality.

[Dackzy]

Thanks for your opinion, but yea...i know. I had the XR134CK before my Samsung 4K. I'd rather have fastest response over picture quality.

Well I would rather have a 60Hz 1440p screen over a 1080p 120/144Hz

[TymmVonD]

Well I would rather have a 60Hz 1440p screen over a 1080p 120/144Hz

Yea. Me too. That's why I went with 60Hz 4K instead of 144Hz 1440p or 100Hz Ultrawide 1440p.

[Dackzy]

Yea. Me too. That's why I went with 60Hz 4K instead of 144Hz 1440p or 100Hz Ultrawide 1440p.

very nice

[NeedMoDro]

The u28E590d is freesync. Which is also a TN, which doesn't generally have backlight bleed issues like IPS, and it's also a DC backlight for flicker free backlighting. Must've recieved an extrememly bad model. It isn't the best or prettiest 4K display out there, but it's way better than the display you received. I'd honestly get a replacement. There's a way better chance at "winning" the display "lottery" compared to the Asus and Acer horror story alot of us went through. I went through issues with the XR134ck and after reading the other horror stories, decided on the samsung. There's also the dell s2716dg monitor with really great luck for getting a quality panel. Was my second choice.

 

Yea that's the one. I've never been super into or read up on display tech so I might be wrong about the actual issues I had.

 

On a dark screen, you could see about a 5-10mm boarder around the edge of the screen. From what I've read I assume that is BLB. I also see this on the TN I'm on now but much less so. Also, if I were to use Unity or a webpage with a grayish background, it would "flicker" really bad. I tried all sorts of settings to no avail.

[darkravenbe]

can anyone tell me what pc setup i would need to run fallout 4 smootly on a 4k pg27qa screen.(fell in love for this screen but takes 1/3 of my budjet)

now i have a i7 2600k 3.4 and a gtx 760 2g gddr5.

 

but will buy a new system and would like it to be 4k.

 

was thinking about a i7 6700k skylake cpu and a msi 980 ti.

but not sure 1 980ti is enouf or that i should get 2 lower g cards cant efford 2 980ti's

 

thank in advance from belgium

[NeedMoDro]

can anyone tell me what pc setup i would need to run fallout 4 smootly on a 4k pg27qa screen.(fell in love for this screen but takes 1/3 of my budjet)

now i have a i7 2600k 3.4 and a gtx 760 2g gddr5.

 

but will buy a new system and would like it to be 4k.

 

was thinking about a i7 6700k skylake cpu and a msi 980 ti.

but not sure 1 980ti is enouf or that i should get 2 lower g cards cant efford 2 980ti's

 

thank in advance from belgium

 

I was running Fallout 4 at 4k on 2 980s(not its) and it was totally playable with some fps issues with the gforce optimal settings. Which are far from maxed out on 4k. I believe fallout's biggest issue is shadows and fullscreen shaders/effects(always an issue on 4k) and at the time I decided to lower settings even more to maintain.

 

I don't have the 4k anymore so cant tell you for sure, but here are the optimized settings currently for DSR 4k:

[Lethal Seraph]

If you're into eye candy and not into FPS, I'd suggest getting a 21:9 ultrawide with the highest pixel you can afford like a 3440x1440p.

That extra monitor real estate is so good it maybe the only thing that's holding me back on getting a VR setup.

[TymmVonD]

Yea that's the one. I've never been super into or read up on display tech so I might be wrong about the actual issues I had.

 

On a dark screen, you could see about a 5-10mm boarder around the edge of the screen. From what I've read I assume that is BLB. I also see this on the TN I'm on now but much less so. Also, if I were to use Unity or a webpage with a grayish background, it would "flicker" really bad. I tried all sorts of settings to no avail.

I wonder if somehow it enabled 30hz refresh in those apps. I honestly have no flicker. Are you sure it's the E model revision. u28E590d and not u28D590D? The E has DC backlight for "flicker-free".

[NeedMoDro]

If you're into eye candy and not into FPS, I'd suggest getting a 21:9 ultrawide with the highest pixel you can afford like a 3440x1440p.

That extra monitor real estate is so good it maybe the only thing that's holding me back on getting a VR setup.

 

I was in love with it for 2 reasons, productivity on one monitor(use 3 for work currently) and for games like Star Citizen especially.

 

The reasons I ruled it out(after being so in love with it)....

1. Because I'm getting a Rift(or depending on the VIVE price, canceling that preorder and getting a VIVE, lol)

2. I use several apps with several windows across 3(sometimes 4 screens.) VS2015, Unity(multiple windows), couple of browser tabs, etc. And on ultra wide, I could still only really snap 2 windows on the screen next to each other, they were just a bit wider.

 

Side note: 4K was amazing for coding and unity and browser windows. But I was using 150% scaling to make things usable without eye strain, so this is part of the reason I went to 1440. The same real estate as 4k at 150%.

 

I wonder if somehow it enabled 30hz refresh in those apps. I honestly have no flicker. Are you sure it's the E model revision. u28E590d and not u28D590D? The E has DC backlight for "flicker-free".

 

Correct it was the newer 'E' model. And I don't think it was going to 30hz, but maybe. I google Samsung 4k flicker issue and a bunch of stuff came up so I just assumed that was it and immediately requested the return, lol.

 

PS> My first* PC monitor was a Samsung and so was my first* HDTV. I absolutely love the brand and they are both really old now and still work great. I just wish they had a g-sync option.

 

*that I bought myself

[TymmVonD]

I was in love with it for 2 reasons, productivity on one monitor(use 3 for work currently) and for games like Star Citizen especially.

 

The reasons I ruled it out(after being so in love with it)....

1. Because I'm getting a Rift(or depending on the VIVE price, canceling that preorder and getting a VIVE, lol)

2. I use several apps with several windows across 3(sometimes 4 screens.) VS2015, Unity(multiple windows), couple of browser tabs, etc. And on ultra wide, I could still only really snap 2 windows on the screen next to each other, they were just a bit wider.

 

Side note: 4K was amazing for coding and unity and browser windows. But I was using 150% scaling to make things usable without eye strain, so this is part of the reason I went to 1440. The same real estate as 4k at 150%.

 

 

Correct it was the newer 'E' model. And I don't think it was going to 30hz, but maybe. I google Samsung 4k flicker issue and a bunch of stuff came up so I just assumed that was it and immediately requested the return, lol.

 

PS> My first* PC monitor was a Samsung and so was my first* HDTV. I absolutely love the brand and they are both really old now and still work great. I just wish they had a g-sync option.

 

*that I bought myself

I've run through Asus and BenQ, but my first UHD is a Samsung HU8550 in the TV room, and now this E590D on my PC. I've never felt wrong going with Samsung. I've had every Galaxy S phone until going to the Note 5.

[VZX]

What you want is new Pascal cards to support free sync and g sync if necessary.

I really doubt that will ever happen.

If that happens, then there's no reason people get GSync because then they will be bound to use only NVidia card; while those who purchased FreeSync (which definitely be cheaper than GSync) is not bound to any GPU brand.

Either GSync is totally scrapped by NVidia or that will never happens.

[Jahramika]

Samsung UE590 by chance? Shipped mine back today. I had terrible BLB and flicker issues.

 

As for waiting it out, I probably wont get new cards for a year or more. And I've never really had a good display. I'd rather get more monitor at a lower res for the same money, if that makes sense. I think the 1440 144 ips a good choice for me at this time.

 

 

I can't seem to find any info on them supporting freesync.

No I have the LG 27mu67-b

[NeedMoDro]

I've run through Asus and BenQ, but my first UHD is a Samsung HU8550 in the TV room, and now this E590D on my PC. I've never felt wrong going with Samsung. I've had every Galaxy S phone until going to the Note 5.

 

Haha, yea I have an 6s edge +.

[m_tieu]

I'm using the Acer 4k g-sync panel right now with the asus 4k monitor as a secondary display. G-sync does make a noticeable difference in games when you can't maintain a steady 60fps with vsync. 

[NeedMoDro]

OMG, G-Sync is awesome... I'm not even hitting 144 in ESO and its so much more smooth than on my 120hz. And that color!!! IPS 4 LIFE SON!

 

I can't say about the res yet as I went from 1080 to 4k back to 1080 and now 1440. So all I can say is this is nicer than the 1080 but not sure how I feel compared to 4k.

 

Gonna let this thread die now, as I have started another thread for my new monitor but for anyone wanting to know I'm happy I went with this over the X34.