Is this Mac Pro a good product for the price

[Kirihuna]

It does not support Mavericks.

[Kirihuna]

OS X Mavericks is x86-64 based. Mac Pro 1,1 is 32Bit. Last OS 1,1 can support is Lion. It can run Mountain Lion unofficially.

[AMD Lover]

I don't see why it wouldn't. All the updates are are little tweaks, not core overhauls.

 

It does not support Mavericks.

tomlambert there only going for $550 on eBay and Kirihuna whats the reasoning behind this and whats the oldest, cheapest but still good Mac that will support Mavericks and please humor me im not a fan of Mac but i do need one and it doesnt have to power through games and everything i just need a good one. 

[Kirihuna]

Oldest one that support Mavericks is 3,1 and later. So anything from Early 2008 to now.

[xox]

tomlambert there only going for $550 on eBay and Kirihuna whats the reasoning behind this and whats the oldest, cheapest but still good Mac that will support Mavericks and please humor me im not a fan of Mac but i do need one and it doesnt have to power through games and everything i just need a good one.

I don't see why no updated is a problem, if all you need is Open CL, then go for it. You don't have to buy it if you don't feel it is a sound investment.

[GoodBytes]

Ok here is a less bias response:

-> Yes, but only if you buy the month it was released. As the price doesn't adpat with market prices it becomes quickly too expensive for what you get.

-> Many people ignore the build quality applies on Apple computers over the other OEMs. Of course, pre-build is always a better deal (unless you try to build a budget computer, usually OEM is cheaper), but you have support. Just take an appointment with a "Genius" at the Apple bar, then bring your computer to have to them look at it, and fixed or replaced.

-> Engineering. Apple has good engineering, from the small power brick on their laptop, to the fairly cool and quiet operation (although they were exceptions). Something that other OEMs simply don't provide

-> If you plan to get it to install Windows, and you know how to build a computer, then definitely not worth it.

[AMD Lover]

Ok here is a less bias response:

-> Yes, but only if you buy the month it was released. As the price doesn't adpat with market prices it becomes quickly too expensive for what you get.

-> Many people ignore the build quality applies on Apple computers over the other OEMs. Of course, pre-build is always a better deal (unless you try to build a budget computer, usually OEM is cheaper), but you have support. Just take an appointment with a "Genius" at the Apple bar, then bring your computer to have to them look at it, and fixed or replaced.

-> Engineering. Apple has good engineering, from the small power brick on their laptop, to the fairly cool and quiet operation (although they were exceptions). Something that other OEMs simply don't provide

-> If you plan to get it to install Windows, and you know how to build a computer, then definitely not worth it.

Nope not installing windows, wanting a mac for the fact that i need os x for school and a real mac is more stable than hackintosh 

[Guest]

Wait a minute.... a Mac for $460?

 

[Kirihuna]

Wait a minute.... a Mac for $460?

 

 

It's 7 years old :l

[Guest]

It's 7 years old :l

Still!

[GoodBytes]

Nope not installing windows, wanting a mac for the fact that i need os x for school and a real mac is more stable than hackintosh

Oh yea, I don't suggest hackintosh, unless it's for a fun project one wants to do.

So in your case, you are better off waiting for the refresh to arrive and buying new.

Mac Pro hasn't been updated in a very long time. So the usual trick of waiting for the latest model, and buying the last year one, sadly won't work, as the "last year" model is several years old.

[nokturrduk84]

Theres certain thing i NEED a Mac for.... I do picture and movie editing for my school "Still in High School" and i need something at home to work on. All i need is iMovie and iPhoto. Also i would like to be able to upgrade to OS X Mavericks. Any Mac is fine, Air, Mac Pro, Macbook, Mini, iMac Any mac but i NEED one

you can do all above mentioned things on non-mac PC

[AMD Lover]

Oh yea, I don't suggest hackintosh, unless it's for a fun project one wants to do.

So in your case, you are better off waiting for the refresh to arrive and buying new.

Mac Pro hasn't been updated in a very long time. So the usual trick of waiting for the latest model, and buying the last year one, sadly won't work, as the "last year" model is several years old.

I dont need a powerhouse workstation with beefy graphics i just need something that will support mavericks and iMovie so if all those require is 64bit ill be getting a 2008 or above Mac Pro

[AMD Lover]

you can do all above mentioned things on non-mac PC

Can't use iMovie on PC and Hackintosh sucks

[Kirihuna]

Yeah you can probably run iMovie. But you will also be running iMovie slow as fuck.

 

why does a high school class need this anyways?

[Lil Chillbil]

Can't use iMovie on PC and Hackintosh sucks

 

if you want a mac go to this forum you will get more help

 

http://www.macrumors.com/

[AMD Lover]

Yeah you can probably run iMovie. But you will also be running iMovie slow as fuck.

 

why does a high school class need this anyways?

Really a 8 core mac and theoretically if i can put mavericks on it iMovie will run slow? I could run iMovie on my 09 Macbook Pro Core Two Duo and it laged but it worked 

[AMD Lover]

if you want a mac go to this forum you will get more help

 

http://www.macrumors.com/

 

 

Yeah you can probably run iMovie. But you will also be running iMovie slow as fuck.

 

why does a high school class need this anyways?

 

 

you can do all above mentioned things on non-mac PC

 

 

Oh yea, I don't suggest hackintosh, unless it's for a fun project one wants to do.

So in your case, you are better off waiting for the refresh to arrive and buying new.

Mac Pro hasn't been updated in a very long time. So the usual trick of waiting for the latest model, and buying the last year one, sadly won't work, as the "last year" model is several years old.

 Is this Mac okay for price?      

 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171116162413?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

[CoffeeBlack]

My question is how is it your school can force you to get a mac. That shouldn't fly.

[GoodBytes]

My question is how is it your school can force you to get a mac. That shouldn't fly.

Oh that's known. Apple goes to school and if they get Mac's are exclusively used for a department, and push students to get Mac's, they get Apple stuff at a significant discount, even free.

They also do it for high-schools, even the cheap private ones, with Macs everywhere, and you wonder how they can afford it, well that's how. Apple doesn't care about the loss, because it's free advertisement. There is a university here medical department, forces student to have Mac's. In fact it's a requirement to have. Assignments and course notes are given in Apple specifc format using a special software for Mac only. Don't you love Apple, smart business though.

[Lil Chillbil]

Oh that's known. Apple goes to school and if they get Mac's are exclusively used for a department, and push students to get Mac's, they get Apple stuff at a significant discount, even free.

They also do it for high-schools, even the cheap private ones, with Macs everywhere, and you wonder how they can afford it, well that's how. Apple doesn't care about the loss, because it's free advertisement. There is a university here medical department, forces student to have Mac's. In fact it's a requirement to have. Assignments and course notes are given in Apple specifc format using a special software for Mac only. Don't you love Apple, smart business though.

 

 

This is **** clause for schools

 

 

to the op, drop out of the movie class. start a f'ing youtube channel already and learn from your mistakes like the rest of us....

[Kirihuna]

Oh that's known. Apple goes to school and if they get Mac's are exclusively used for a department, and push students to get Mac's, they get Apple stuff at a significant discount, even free.

They also do it for high-schools, even the cheap private ones, with Macs everywhere, and you wonder how they can afford it, well that's how. Apple doesn't care about the loss, because it's free advertisement. There is a university here medical department, forces student to have Mac's. In fact it's a requirement to have. Assignments and course notes are given in Apple specifc format using a special software for Mac only. Don't you love Apple, smart business though.

This is how my work works. I work at a hospital where we use Mac with Boot Camp. I get like a 15% to 25% discount on Apple products (25% for asscessories, 15% for hardware), which is pushing me to get a MacBook Pro tbh.

[Kirihuna]

 Is this Mac okay for price?      

 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171116162413?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

It's pretty good. 3TB + 24GB of RAM?

 

Too bad it's sold

[GoodBytes]

This is how my work works. I work at a hospital where we use Mac with Boot Camp. I get like a 15% to 25% discount on Apple products (25% for asscessories, 15% for hardware), which is pushing me to get a MacBook Pro tbh.

Yup. But what people don't know, is that if you order directly from Dell, HP, and so on, you can negotiate a price and get more than 15% off (unless it's a 500$ laptop and alike..here they don't make money).

But yes, in terms of build quality, performance, battery life, display... Apple is hard to beat. I don't blame you... I blame OEM that have given up, and only producing crap.

That is why I welcome Razor and Vizio (among all brands). You know Vizio their laptop is actually pretty decent. Nice specs too. It's a U.S company. Their only issue issues is that they are dependent on Wallmart and Costco, tech support service, I don't know how it works, it's a small company. Keyboard isn't great, but not awful.. just average. The touch pad while much improved over the years, isn't quiet there yet, but not awful. I have seen far worst. I haven't touch the latest model one. Junk free though. Like Razor, they seams to do big improvements on each generations, they are just limited to a target price, as the target market isn't people willing to spend 2k on a laptop.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/15/3076519/vizio-reboot-pc-american-hdtv-success-do-it-again (check video).

[stevv]

First, I'm assuming from what I read so far that you want a mac, and a pro desktop form (for expand-ability), otherwise I would tell you to get either one of the newer mac's + student discount.

 

 

So, going over the specs of these older models:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro

 

You need at least MacPro3,1 (2nd Gen) for Mavericks.  (still have to wait and see when the OS is actually released).

 

I recommend at least version MacPro4,1.   Something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-2009-Apple-Mac-Pro-Intel-Xeon-Quad-Core-Tower-Complete-Setup-/161097063822?pt=Apple_Desktops&hash=item2582221d8e

 

other notes:

• The processor speed is much more modern in terms of speed.  From the specs, it would be a bit faster than the Q8400.  I know the E8400 (dual core version) is very snappy, and with an ssd, the system is right up with my i7 2600K in daily usage.
• Memory is DDR3 (and relatively cheap and easy to find from crucial.com: http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Mac%20Pro%20(4-core%20Xeon%203500%20Series)%203rd%20Gen.%20Early%202009&Cat=RAM )
• It cost more, but the value will last you a LOT longer.
• The 1st and 2nd Gen slower bus will make the macbook air feel like a super computer. ok.. not really, it will be sluggish in terms of modern desktop... and add on the fact that lion and beyond are resource hogs.  Snow Leopard was "Win XP" of the OSX.