Causes?

[don_svetlio]

So. Today I was greeted by this. The laptop I am using is the y50 and is about a month old. The drive's smart chart is fine. 0 bad sectors. The RAM hasn't given me issues either. What other alternatives are there? Afterwards it booted normally several times. Event viewer listed a Lenovo driver crash, and tho ntfs error. I also have a listing of a unexpected shutdown from the middle of the night and a failed win update. Running chkdsk /f revealed some screwy files and fixed them bit those might be the result of a force shutdown I did prior since I had set both /f and /r and it was taking too long

[ZetZet]

 

 

NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM

This stop code indicates the NTFS file system driver encountered a situation it could not handle, and is almost always caused by 3 things:

• Data corruption on the disk
• Data corruption in memory
• The system completely running out of memory (this typically only happens on heavily-loaded servers)

Things to check

1. Reseat the memory and all drive data cables to eliminate data corruption issues stemming from poorly or improperly seated hardware.
2. Run a complete memory and hard drive diagnostic. The quick test will not be thorough enough here. You need to run the full system diagnostic.
3. If those diagnostics pass, run a full file system check from the Recovery Console (chkdsk /f /r) to detect and (potentially) fix any corrupted data.
4. If none of the above solves the issue, reinstall Windows.
5. If that does not fix the issue, replace the hard drive.

[MoonKnightSpidey]

So. Today I was greeted by this. The laptop I am using is the y50 and is about a month old. The drive's smart chart is fine. 0 bad sectors. The RAM hasn't given me issues either. What other alternatives are there? Afterwards it booted normally several times. Event viewer listed a Lenovo driver crash, and tho ntfs error. I also have a listing of a unexpected shutdown from the middle of the night and a failed win update. Running chkdsk /f revealed some screwy files and fixed them bit those might be the result of a force shutdown I did prior since I had set both /f and /r and it was taking too long

Did it do it again. If it didn't then what is there to worry about

[NinjaJc01]

So. Today I was greeted by this. The laptop I am using is the y50 and is about a month old. The drive's smart chart is fine. 0 bad sectors. The RAM hasn't given me issues either. What other alternatives are there? Afterwards it booted normally several times. Event viewer listed a Lenovo driver crash, and tho ntfs error. I also have a listing of a unexpected shutdown from the middle of the night and a failed win update. Running chkdsk /f revealed some screwy files and fixed them bit those might be the result of a force shutdown I did prior since I had set both /f and /r and it was taking too long

Virus? Leave chkdsk running overnight and try a defrag.

[don_svetlio]

Did it do it again. If it didn't then what is there to worry about

Single time.

 

 

 

 

NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM

This stop code indicates the NTFS file system driver encountered a situation it could not handle, and is almost always caused by 3 things:

• Data corruption on the disk
• Data corruption in memory
• The system completely running out of memory (this typically only happens on heavily-loaded servers)

Things to check

1. Reseat the memory and all drive data cables to eliminate data corruption issues stemming from poorly or improperly seated hardware.
2. Run a complete memory and hard drive diagnostic. The quick test will not be thorough enough here. You need to run the full system diagnostic.
3. If those diagnostics pass, run a full file system check from the Recovery Console (chkdsk /f /r) to detect and (potentially) fix any corrupted data.
4. If none of the above solves the issue, reinstall Windows.
5. If that does not fix the issue, replace the hard drive.

 

I've not had RAM issues prior or after - stress tested the memory. Nada.

Drive came back with 0 bad sectors or files in bad sectors from chkdsk /f

[AresKrieger]

Did it do it again. If it didn't then what is there to worry about

Unexplained crashes usually indicate underlying issues like a virus corrupting data or hardware failure, not things you want to ignore.

[don_svetlio]

Virus? Leave chkdsk running overnight and try a defrag.

It's a brand new machine - with an AV on it (2 if you count AVG's leftovers which are pretty much unremoveable)

[NinjaJc01]

 

 

 

NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM

This stop code indicates the NTFS file system driver encountered a situation it could not handle, and is almost always caused by 3 things:

• Data corruption on the disk
• Data corruption in memory
• The system completely running out of memory (this typically only happens on heavily-loaded servers)

Things to check

1. Reseat the memory and all drive data cables to eliminate data corruption issues stemming from poorly or improperly seated hardware.
2. Run a complete memory and hard drive diagnostic. The quick test will not be thorough enough here. You need to run the full system diagnostic.
3. If those diagnostics pass, run a full file system check from the Recovery Console (chkdsk /f /r) to detect and (potentially) fix any corrupted data.
4. If none of the above solves the issue, reinstall Windows.
5. If that does not fix the issue, replace the hard drive.

 

It's a laptop, there are no drive cables...

[don_svetlio]

Unexplained crashes usually indicate underlying issues like a virus corrupting this or hardware failure, not things you want to ignore.

I do regular scans and the hardware has been flawless for a month

[ZetZet]

It's a laptop, there are no drive cables...

yeah ok. please tell me when to type lol.

[NinjaJc01]

It's a brand new machine - with an AV on it (2 if you count AVG's leftovers which are pretty much unremoveable)

What AV? Try Hitman Pro 64Bit...

[don_svetlio]

I believe if the drive was writing something and failed it could also be a cause (the failed win update which came from nowhere?)

[AresKrieger]

I do regular scans and the hardware has been flawless for a month

I don't doubt it, I was just explaining why even one crash can be an issue, it could be a bug between the laptop's drivers and the OS as well, keep in mind I'm just spitballing ideas

[don_svetlio]

What AV? Try Hitman Pro 64Bit...

Symantec

[don_svetlio]

I don't doubt it, I was just explaining why even one crash can be an issue, it could be a bug between the laptop's drivers and the OS as well, keep in mind I'm just spitballing ideas

Page file was set to 8GB btw - ran out of memory maybe?

[AresKrieger]

Page file was set to 8GB btw - ran out of memory maybe?

Yeah that can happen, someone else already said that above, the question is why? I blame a mem leak (if this is the issue).

[NinjaJc01]

Symantec

Well, Hitman Pro can co-exist with any AV, and can take out ANY virus, even if your AV might not show anything.

[manikyath]

It's a laptop, there are no drive cables...

some laptops actually have very short cables for the hard drives, to make mounting a bit easier.

 

on topic: this is how i've seen 5 lenovos completely kick the bucket over a month time...

[don_svetlio]

some laptops actually have very short cables for the hard drives, to make mounting a bit easier.

 

on topic: this is how i've seen 5 lenovos completely kick the bucket over a month time...

Odd to say the least? I've done my googling and I can't find a pattern.

 

Yeah that can happen, someone else already said that above, the question is why? I blame a mem leak (if this is the issue).

Possible. If it were a hardware issue I imagine that if SMART didn't pick it up, the chkdsk should have.

[don_svetlio]

some laptops actually have very short cables for the hard drives, to make mounting a bit easier.

 

on topic: this is how i've seen 5 lenovos completely kick the bucket over a month time...

 

Well, Hitman Pro can co-exist with any AV, and can take out ANY virus, even if your AV might not show anything.

 

Yeah that can happen, someone else already said that above, the question is why? I blame a mem leak (if this is the issue).

 

yeah ok. please tell me when to type lol.

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck.  The bugcheck was: 0x00000024 (0x000000b500190645, 0xffffd0002140d408, 0xffffd0002140cc10, 0xfffff80229cb9033). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 121615-3

The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

The driver \Driver\WUDFRd failed to load for the device ROOT\LENOVOVHID\0000.

Audit events have been dropped by the transport.  0

That's the event log of crashes or criticals

[manikyath]

Odd to say the least? I've done my googling and I can't find a pattern.

 

Possible. If it were a hardware issue I imagine that if SMART didn't pick it up, the chkdsk should have.

at this point my pattern is that lenovo laptops are shit...

we started last school year with the following brands:

- asus

- msi

- samsung

- medion

- lenovo

we finished last school year with the following brands:

- asus

- msi

- samsung

- medion

- apple

 

and thats not on a small test group, its on all the people in the college i knew which laptop they had, and as the guy with the power squid, you meet quite a few of them.

somehow only the lenovos, and all lenovos, kicked the bucket before the end of the year...

[NinjaJc01]

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Contact Lenovo? Only as a last resort, from my personal experience with laptop tech support, they don't like it if you explain clearly what the problem is.

[don_svetlio]

at this point my pattern is that lenovo laptops are shit...

we started last school year with the following brands:

- asus

- msi

- samsung

- medion

- lenovo

we finished last school year with the following brands:

- asus

- msi

- samsung

- medion

- apple

 

and thats not on a small test group, its on all the people in the college i knew which laptop they had, and as the guy with the power squid, you meet quite a few of them.

somehow only the lenovos, and all lenovos, kicked the bucket before the end of the year...

At the same time my friends have Y50s that lasted well over a year and a half

[manikyath]

At the same time my friends have Y50s that lasted well over a year and a half

well, all the lenovos were the same batch, and they all showed the same flaws, so they probably were dropped in transport or something.

[don_svetlio]

Contact Lenovo? Only as a last resort, from my personal experience with laptop tech support, they don't like it if you explain clearly what the problem is.

Not sure if it's their fault - from a hardware point of view it seems to be fine - RAM is behaving normally (not unstable - going 5 hours now with all sorts of tasks), SSHD seems fine with checks and SMART tables (several different programs read it). I'm leaning towards a OS issue/fluke