Mixing headphones. Will these do ?

[maximilian4o]

Hey guys. I got a question, but first of all... please don't give me advice unless you know what you're talking about cause I'm already pretty confused I decided to start working with music. I want some mixing headphones. I WONT be mixing for other people. I just need something to do my own music with. And I got a crazy deal in my country for a pair of new Razer Adaro Stereo. 60$... which is dirt cheap considered they cost 135$ retail. So, do you guys think it'll be good enough for mixing ? Or should I get something else up to 60$ ? BTW I'm currently using a pair of Earbuds from my old iPhone 4. Thank you for your time

 

The headphones in reference are these: http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Adaro-Stereos-Analog-Headphones/dp/B00I4XMJ22/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448819727&sr=8-1&keywords=Razer+Adaro+Stereo

 

*That's not the deal, I just placed them so yall know what I'm talking about

[TechStyle]

2 things.

 

1. You want to mix on studio monitors. These will not only give you precise sound but also a solid stereo image.

2. Headphones have terrible stereo image and your mixes will come out mushy and crowded. Even $1000 custom IEMs that are meant for mixing are only meant to be used when you can't reach your monitors. 

[paprikman]

If u're not going to do anything for someone else and this is just your hobby - then anything will work and u shouldn't read below.

So, if u're reading this, u're going further - those headphones are crap for music editing.

Trusted brands (for below 200$): beyerdynamics, audiotechnica, sennheiser, takstar.

You will find out very quick, that things u do on cheap (crap) headphones will sound very different in real scene.

As for me, I use sennheiser pcx 450 as a monitor for my nord lead x2. Everything sounds similar at home and in the scene.

 

EDIT: and yeah, razer has like nothing in common with music. really.

[maximilian4o]

2 things.

 

1. You want to mix on studio monitors. These will not only give you precise sound but also a solid stereo image.

2. Headphones have terrible stereo image and your mixes will come out mushy and crowded. Even $1000 custom IEMs that are meant for mixing are only meant to be used when you can't reach your monitors. 

I know. A lot of people use monitors, but I can't throw that kind of money. I just want to know what can I get for as most as 60-70$ and use them for mixing. I know it won't be a right choice, but whatever's best for the price. + I don't make beats. I guess they come pre-mixed. All I want to do is mix my Rap vocals, lay them on top of the beat and master the whole thing. But I'm not mixing as in making instrumentals and/or fiddling drums, guitars etc. Thank you ^^

[iShad]

For mixing, get Sony mdr7506.

[TechStyle]

I know. A lot of people use monitors, but I can't throw that kind of money. I just want to know what can I get for as most as 60-70$ and use them for mixing. I know it won't be a right choice, but whatever's best for the price. + I don't make beats. I guess they come pre-mixed. All I want to do is mix my Rap vocals, lay them on top of the beat and master the whole thing. But I'm not mixing as in making instrumentals and/or fiddling drums, guitars etc. Thank you ^^

 

Looking at your signature, you already have a pair of 598s and a 2i2. Your 598s will do a better job that those Razers and since you already have an audio interface you can add a set of monitors for cheap.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Mackie-CR-CR3-Reference-Multimedia/dp/B00KVEIY4E/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1448820494&sr=8-4&keywords

 

http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Studiophile-Active-Monitor-Speakers/dp/B0051WAM1O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1448820494&sr=8-3&keywords

 

Now these monitors are far from the best monitors you can get but even these will be farrr farrrr better than any headphones you will mix on.

 

EDIT: Those AV30s don't have TRS inputs. You'll have to buy an adapter.

[maximilian4o]

Looking at your signature, you already have a pair of 598s and a 2i2. Your 598s will do a better job that those Razers and since you already have an audio interface you can add a set of monitors for cheap.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Mackie-CR-CR3-Reference-Multimedia/dp/B00KVEIY4E/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1448820494&sr=8-4&keywords=m+audio+av40

 

http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Studiophile-Active-Monitor-Speakers/dp/B0051WAM1O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1448820494&sr=8-3&keywords=m+audio+av40

 

Now these monitors are far from the best monitors you can get but even these will be farrr farrrr better than any headphones you will mix on.

Thing is... I don't have the 598s anymore. That's the problem. I already have a 5.1 audio system tho. Its old-ish but I use it for music. Think that will do ? I think it's a "Medion MD 4847 5.1". IF NOT, do you think it would make that much of a difference between the monitors and the Razer pair, for mixing vocals ?

[TechStyle]

Thing is... I don't have the 598s anymore. That's the problem. I already have a 5.1 audio system tho. Its old-ish but I use it for music. Think that will do ? I think it's a "Medion MD 4847 5.1". IF NOT, do you think it would make that much of a difference between the monitors and the Razer pair, for mixing vocals ?

 

An audio system like that will color the sound and would definitely not give you a realistic stereo image. I keep on hounding on stereo image but it's because you want your vocals to "sit right" within the mix. It's the difference of a professional sounding mix to a complete amateurs. Yes, I'd still recommend a monitor set over a headphones, especially $60 razer ones. 

 

I realize you're not mixing for anyone other than yourself but if you mix on the razers don't plan on listening to your mix on anything else as there's a very large chance it's not going to translate well. 

[maximilian4o]

An audio system like that will color the sound and would definitely not give you a realistic stereo image. I keep on hounding on stereo image but it's because you want your vocals to "sit right" within the mix. It's the difference of a professional sounding mix to a complete amateurs. Yes, I'd still recommend a monitor set over a headphones, especially $60 razer ones. 

 

I realize you're not mixing for anyone other than yourself but if you mix on the razers don't plan on listening to your mix on anything else as there's a very large chance it's not going to translate well. 

Yeah, I was pretty afraid that the vocals wouldn't sit right on top of the beat. IF you're taking into consideration the fact that I will be mixing only Rap vocals and still think the vocals would sound off... (Im just using stuff such as DeEsser, Compressor, Limiter and Volume Automation) then I will go with the monitors. BTW I'm sorry for the large amount of things to ask for, but I wanted to justify staying with a pair of iPhone 4 earbuds so I can buy monitors instead of headphones Thank you !