Microsoft suddenly decides not to offer Windows 10 November update via Media Creation Tool

[JerkyMcDilerino]

Source: http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-suddenly-decides-not-to-offer-windows-10-november-update-via-media-creation-tool

 

Thins got very confusing today, as Microsoft suddenly - without warning or explanation - appeared to pull the Windows 10 "November update" that it released just over a week ago.

 

As a result, the Media Creation Tool, which had allowed users to download ISOs of the update(known also as version 1511/build 10586), suddenly stopped offering the new version, instead reverting to installation of building 10240 - the original public release of Windows 10, which came out back in July. The company also updated it's notes for the Tool, stating that " these downloads cannot be used to update Windows 10 PCs to the November update(version 1511)".

 

Bizarrely, despite Microsoft previously recommending the Tool to users who wished to installed version 1511, it now says that will no longer be an option.

 

 

Only after ZDNet's Ed Bott approached the company to ask for some sort of explanation did it offer the following statement:

The November update was originally available via the MCT tool, but we've decided that future installs should be through Windows Update. People can still download Windows 10 using the MCT tool if they wish. The November update will be delivered via Windows Update.

As Ed points out, that explanation seems a little unusual, given the sudden nature of the update's removal from the Tool, and the fact that Microsoft made no announcement about its decision, despite previously encouraging users to install 1511 using the Tool.

Windows 10 November update: FAQ page Windows 10 November update: FAQ - Windows Help used to have a upgrade to 1511 link, not anymore pic.twitter.com/ciAnvlOTwQ

— Tero Alhonen (@teroalhonen) November 21, 2015
As Tero Alhonen first spotted, the company has also updated its release notes, stripping out a paragraph that had previously stated that you "if you uninstalled the November update for your PC, you won't be able to install it again from Windows Update. Instead, you'll need to go to the Microsoft software download website, and select Upgrade now to upgrade your PC to Windows 10 Version 1511, which includes the November update."

Whatever the explanation, those wishing to perform a clean install of the new OS will now have to install 10240 ISOs using the Tool, and then update to 10586 via Windows Update.

Source: Ed Bott / ZDNet 

Update: Despite Microsoft's statement that users should now install the November update/Version 1511 via Windows Update, some readers have contacted us to point out that they're currently unable to do so.

Update 2: Reports that Microsoft had pulled the update from Windows Update too proved to be wide of the mark. In a statement to WinBeta, the company said categorically that it has "not pulled" the update (including that rather forceful underline).

[noisebomb44]

can you please select all your text in the post and use the "auto" color

It gets really hard to read for dark theme users otherwise

[JerkyMcDilerino]

can you please select all your text in the post and use the "auto" color

It gets really hard to read for dark theme users otherwise

It is in auto color. 

[SImoHayha]

probably hackers been cracking windows 10 with it.

[TetraSky]

Well, good thing I got that ISO before this and was able to successfully install it on two different machines. Why do this.. that update is MASSIVE, not only did it take a long time to download with crappy internet speed, it also took a long time to install, ain't nobody got time to do that on multiple machines if you can just clean install it with the update using the ISO.

[noisebomb44]

It is in auto color. 

The quote wasnt when i first read it

[JerkyMcDilerino]

The quote wasnt when i first read it

Fix, now happy? 

[noisebomb44]

Fix, now happy? 

yes, much happy now

[ahkenatan]

Well, good thing I got that ISO before this and was able to successfully install it on two different machines. Why do this.. that update is MASSIVE, not only did it take a long time to download with crappy internet speed, it also took a long time to install, ain't nobody got time to do that on multiple machines if you can just clean install it with the update using the ISO.

Doesn't windows update use home network P2P file sharing of updates? I could be wrong.

[Arty]

probably hackers been cracking windows 10 with it.

They dont' care about that

 

 

Thank god i made my usb with it when i did then lol

[TetraSky]

Doesn't windows update use home network P2P file sharing of updates? I could be wrong.

Does that thing even work? Because honestly, that has never really worked for me. I have 4 Windows 10 PCs in the house, all of them had to individually download the update and it still got everything off the web, if I am to believe my data usage for that day. I'm guessing you need to make a homegroup or something like that?

Also wouldn't be of much help if you want/need to install Windows 10 on someone else's PC, as in, not in your home.

[ahkenatan]

Does that thing even work? Because honestly, that has never really worked for me. I have 4 Windows 10 PCs in the house, all of them had to individually download the update and it still got everything off the web, if I am to believe my data usage for that day. I'm guessing you need to make a homegroup or something like that?

Also wouldn't be of much help if you want/need to install Windows 10 on someone else's PC, as in, not in your home.

Truthfully I've never actually tested the feature so I don't know if it actually works or not. You're probably right in that it requires a Homegroup. And your last point is very true.

[Doobeedoo]

Hmm, weird. Would like more clarification on this. Can't see reason behind it.

[GoodBytes]

Probably because it caused problem to some users. I am sure next big update, the Media Creation tool would be possible as they would have fixed the issue(s) by then.

[You_are_a_cunt]

While it might be a slight inconvenience that you have to download all the updates released since July, I don't see this being a "big deal", to be honest.

It's not like the update from 8 to 8.1 where it took forever and a couple weeks for the update to finish <_<

[perplex]

hmm well i recently formatted my computer with the latest MCT tool, i didnt get any issues, be interesting to see what they do in the future, and if they tell us the reason behind it

[zMeul]

I bet it has something to do with stability and some other shit MS broke with this update

for more than a week I did not received the "november update" on my W10 Home laptop and I forced it via the media creation tool - so far I haven't noticed anything wrong, but I heard people claiming software missing

 

one thing new to this update that makes me absolutely furious: there is absolutely no way to block driver updates

the ability to "not check for driver updates" has just vanished:

bad move MS! really bad move

 

as of now the W10 adoption is not as widespread, but things will change and MS will have a mob with pitchforks and torches at their door

[GoodBytes]

I bet it has something to do with stability and some other shit MS broke with this update

for more than a week I did not received the "november update" on my W10 Home laptop and I forced it via the media creation tool - so far I haven't noticed anything wrong, but I heard people claiming software missing

 

one thing new to this update that makes me absolutely furious: there is absolutely no way to block driver updates

the ability to "not check for driver updates" has just vanished:

 

bad move MS! really bad move

 

as of now the W10 adoption is not as widespread, but things will change and MS will have a mob with pitchforks and torches at their door

 

The option in Windows 10 original release, the option to not check didn't work, at least for me. It still forced the update. And the Windows Hide update tool doesn't detect the driver update to hide. Brilliant, I know. The forced driver update is really annoying me. I always said it, and continue to say, we should have the ability to hide AT LEAST driver updates.

[zMeul]

The option in Windows 10 original release, the option to not check didn't work, at least for me. It still forced the update. And the Windows Hide update tool doesn't detect the driver update to hide. Brilliant, I know. The forced driver update is really annoying me. I always said it, and continue to say, we should have the ability to hide AT LEAST driver updates.

it didn't worked for me either, but I heard people using it so I though was something on my end

 

MS rushed W10 out of the doors way to soon; even this "let's not call it service pack" hasn't fixed stuff, broke some more

[Guest]

The update caused my boot time to increase from about 7 seconds to around 45 seconds, also I don't know if it was ms or nvidia update, but something turned on the 3d option in my GeForce drivers, games displayed shitty, took forever to figure out

[GoodBytes]

I have realized that you love copy and pasting news from other sites as your own.

This is called plagiarism. This is not allowed in the Tech News section.

Please use quotes on thing you copy over, and explain the news in your own words. I moved the news under General Discussion until you fix your post. (PM me when you do so that I can move it back to the Tech News section).

Please read the Tech News guideline: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/11724-read-before-posting-in-this-section/