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Budget is about £1000 can add more to if there is real benefits to be had, I was wondering if a M.2 drive was worth the money? it will be 99% gaming rig 1080p with some office work ;) word excel lol any help would be great thanks.
 
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i5-6600K 3.9GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM
MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-21300C16 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK8GX4M2A2666
Corsair Hydro H60 V2 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060007-WW)
Corsair Carbide Series Air 240 High Airflow PC Case - White (CC-9011069-WW)
Corsair RM Series RM650X '80+ Gold' 650W Modular Power Supply (CP-9020091-UK)
500GB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E500B/EU)

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I don't really think there's a big difference with m.2 drives. Correct me if I'm wrong.

• OS: Windows 10/10 Pro  • SSD: Samsung 256GB 850 Evo Series *  • HDD: Seagate 1TB  • GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING X (SLI)
• CPU: i7-4790K OC 4.7GHz Quad-Core Processor • Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) • PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W
• RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory • Mobo: MSI Gaming 5

 

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The Corsair Air 240 does only support motherboards up to micro ATX, but you chose an ATX motherboard.
The Corsair Air 540 is the case that supports ATX motherboards.

 

M.2 SSDs are nice, but not necessary for gaming. If you can get a M.2 drive for around the same price of a normal SSD it's fine, but I wouldn't pay much more. You'll most likely not even notice the performance difference.

 

 

 

 

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m.2 would only help with the OS... no "real" performance boost for games

Something like a Samsung 950 Pro is about £0.5/GB currently and that gets 2.5GB/s reads, 1.5GB/s writes and around 120k IO/s. That is a substantial jump in IO performance over and above anything on the SATA interface regardless of what you spent on it. Its such a substantial jump but you then start getting into just how much of that bandwidth you can actually use. Games tend to decompress as they read and that results in most games having CPU dominated loading, the OS itself is heavily biased on smaller reads so benefits but does most of its actual work on loading only. Then there are applications and their uses and they will all be different. Its definitely faster, a lot faster, but whether you have a workload than will have you notice depends on how you use your computer.

 

A few years ago I tested an original Intel 80GB G1 SSD against a much more modern Samsung 850 evo in Java compilation speeds on a project I was working on. I found no benefit to the new one at all. I could see it in other places but Java compilation became completely CPU dominated the moment you put any SSD in there, the jump from a HDD to SSD was quite large. I find compressed and decompression are all dominated by CPU time not SSD read/write speeds and I also find all but a very few games don't even care about HDD v SSD let alone how fast that SSD actually is. So while its available and its faster its also more expensive. I just bought a 950 pro 512GB M.2 despite knowing all this, because well I'll have it for years and years and I hate spinning rust so much and I just plain need more space. But I don't necessarily recommend anyone else take that route, whether you have a use that will benefit is really for you to determine.

 

 

 

850 evo is fine ;) i got a 500gb too

 

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lol at the case i saw the pictured and assumed it was big enough for atx LOL thanks for noticing

 

EDIT: change case to NZXT Source 340 Midi-Tower Case Special Edition - Black / Green rather not spend over £100 for a case seems  a waste of money as for the card 390? bit of a nvidia fan ill have to check out benchmarks 

 

quiet dark rock 3 out of stock at my site and i like the smaller form factor of the corsair wont be doing very heavy overclocking thanks for the suggestion tho 

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lol at the case i saw the pictured and assumed it was big enough for atx LOL thanks for noticing

 

EDIT: change case to NZXT Source 340 Midi-Tower Case Special Edition - Black / Green rather not spend over £100 for a case seems  a waste of money as for the card 390? bit of a nvidia fan ill have to check out benchmarks 

 

quiet dark rock 3 out of stock at my site and i like the smaller form factor of the corsair wont be doing very heavy overclocking thanks for the suggestion tho 

Use http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/ to find the cheapest prices on your various components. It also checks the compatibility so you don't choose the wrong size motherboard or stuff like that c:

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Use http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/ to find the cheapest prices on your various components. It also checks the compatibility so you don't choose the wrong size motherboard or stuff like that c:

thanks never used that site using it now.

 

do you guys think grabbing 980ti would be the better option exec £200 i know but is it really worth the extra money 

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thanks never used that site using it now.

 

do you guys think grabbing 980ti would be the better option exec £200 i know but is it really worth the extra money 

For 1080p a 980Ti is waaaaay overkill, an R9 390 is better (or an R9 380x if you want to spend less but sacrifice a little bit of performance). I'd suggest this:

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£191.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£24.95 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£114.47 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£43.49 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  (£242.74 @ More Computers) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£57.19 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £835.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-20 16:08 GMT+0000

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For 1080p a 980Ti is waaaaay overkill, an R9 390 is better (or an R9 380x if you want to spend less but sacrifice a little bit of performance). I'd suggest this:

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£191.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£24.95 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£114.47 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£43.49 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  (£242.74 @ More Computers) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£57.19 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £835.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-20 16:08 GMT+0000  
 
thanks i wont get 980ti then i look into the amd cards 

 

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For 1080p a 980Ti is waaaaay overkill, an R9 390 is better (or an R9 380x if you want to spend less but sacrifice a little bit of performance). I'd suggest this:

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£191.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£24.95 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£114.47 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£43.49 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  (£242.74 @ More Computers) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£57.19 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £835.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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thanks i wont get 980ti then i look into the amd cards 

 

 

Well, when I say "an R9 390 is better" I mean that it's better suited to your use than a 980Ti, which is better suited for 1440p or higher gaming.

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id rather max 1080p all the bells and whistle than mid level 1440p also i have an amazing 1080p monitor im looking into the 390x

 

edit forgot to mention i have gtx 690 to hand

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£191.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Advanced C1 50.5 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (£43.14 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£110.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£93.90 @ More Computers)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£115.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  (£242.74 @ More Computers)
Case: NZXT Noctis 450 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£94.98 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£62.48 @ Novatech)
Total: £955.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-20 16:22 GMT+0000

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i notice everyone has recommend the be quite cooler over the corsair aio cooler ill have to change that too then 
 
Asus Radeon R9 390X DC3 OC Strix 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
will be the card then 
 

EDIT:

 

So final build;

 
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i5-6600K 3.9GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM
Asus Radeon R9 390X DC3 OC Strix 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-21300C16 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK8GX4M2A2666
be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 CPU Cooler
NZXT Source 340 Midi-Tower Case Special Edition - Black / Green
Corsair RM Series RM650X '80+ Gold' 650W Modular Power Supply (CP-9020091-UK)
500GB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E500B/EU)

 

any other thoughts or will that be fine? the cpu fan dont say it supports 1151 tho?

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i notice everyone has recommend the be quite cooler over the corsair aio cooler ill have to change that too then 

 

Asus Radeon R9 390X DC3 OC Strix 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

will be the card then 

 

AiO's are fine, but the thing is:  You don't need to overclock for gaming... not for a very long time.  The tower coolers are quiet and allow for a good overclock.

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i notice everyone has recommend the be quite cooler over the corsair aio cooler ill have to change that too then 

 

Asus Radeon R9 390X DC3 OC Strix 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

will be the card then 

 

EDIT:

 

So final build;

 

Asus Z170 Pro Gaming Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard

Intel Core i5-6600K 3.9GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM

Asus Radeon R9 390X DC3 OC Strix 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-21300C16 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK8GX4M2A2666

be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 CPU Cooler

NZXT Source 340 Midi-Tower Case Special Edition - Black / Green

Corsair RM Series RM650X '80+ Gold' 650W Modular Power Supply (CP-9020091-UK)

500GB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E500B/EU)

 

any other thoughts or will that be fine? the cpu fan dont say it supports 1151 tho?

 

If you are going for the green/back case, there is this:  http://www.morecomputers.com/product.aspx?pn=G1.+SNIPER+Z170&man=Gigabyte&referer=PCPart

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For 1080p a 980Ti is waaaaay overkill, an R9 390 is better (or an R9 380x if you want to spend less but sacrifice a little bit of performance). I'd suggest this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£191.94 @ Aria PC)

CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.95 @ Aria PC)

Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£114.47 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£43.49 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.98 @ CCL Computers)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card (£242.74 @ More Computers)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£57.19 @ Amazon UK)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£64.99 @ Aria PC)

Total: £835.74

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-20 16:08 GMT+0000

I game on 1080 with a 980ti in the 1500mhz range, and struggle for 60fps in Gta V maxed out. It isn't over kill, it's for people who want absolute maxed settings
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nice mate completely useless but i love it why not colour match if i can thanks!!! any difference in boards?

 

any green and black 390x cards :) sounds like a nvidia think now LOL

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nice mate completely useless but i love it why not colour match if i can thanks!!! any difference in boards?

 

lol, wrong quote... but no, there is no raw performance difference in the two boards, only brand features.

 

Also, there are better quality PSUs in that price range.  The RM650X is okay, but you are paying extra for an "okay" PSU... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM650/11.html

 

Sorry, that is the wrong review... looking for others... The RMX line is better than the RM line, so it is not a "bad" choice.  You are paying more for the name though.

 

Seasonic: 

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650xxxb9

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220gs0550v1

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550bbefx

 

Superflower:

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20550y1

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20650y1

 

These are good options and are cheaper than the RM650X. 

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lol, wrong quote... but no, there is no raw performance difference in the two boards, only brand features.

yup lol forum noob

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lol, wrong quote... but no, there is no raw performance difference in the two boards, only brand features.

 

Also, there are better quality PSUs in that price range.  The RM650X is okay, but you are paying extra for an "okay" PSU... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/RM650/11.html

 

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Seasonic: 

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650xxxb9

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220gs0550v1

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550bbefx

 

Superflower:

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20550y1

 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20650y1

 

All these are higher quality than that Channel Well Technologies RM650X.

wat watt do i need? would swap it out for this EVGA Supernova G2 650W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply

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so final specs?

 

Gigabyte GA-Z170 Sniper Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i5-6600K 3.9GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM
Asus Radeon R9 390X DC3 OC Strix 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-21300C16 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK8GX4M2A2666
be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 CPU Cooler
NZXT Source 340 Midi-Tower Case Special Edition - Black / Green
EVGA Supernova G2 650W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply
500GB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E500B/EU)

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You tell me, that looks like a really nice PC... Can you squeeze in a 2x8GB Ram set?  Or does that put you way, way over?  I know you are already over.

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You tell me, that looks like a really nice PC... Can you squeeze in a 2x8GB Ram set?  Or does that put you way, way over?

i could but is there a need?

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