Let's talk Interstellar

[StrongAsFe]

Read this thread while listening to the masterpiece that is this theme song:

 

 

One comment I really liked was:

"This movie isn't just a movie, yes it has some logical flaws, but you have to look over it. You have to look behind its meaning.

 

This movie pushes the boundaries of film making. This movie shows us how we, the human species, have to look at our future. It tells us, of what we are capable of. It shows what makes us human, what defines us.

 

This movie is life-changing." -LeadersasAnimals

 

I strongly agree with this. After watching the movie, I felt changed. I looked outside the window in a way I never have looked at it before. It was a magical feeling. I remember when the credits rolled out, I was both sad and amazed about the movie - sad about the fact that it ended because I did NOT want it to end but also amazed at how good the movie was.

 

Dat 240p:

 

 

The concept of space travel is both frightening and intriguing at the same time. I would really like to see this ambitious project realize itself within my lifetime. Experience weightlessness in my lifetime. Maybe even go on another planet.

 

As much as I am lucky to have experienced the rise of the Internet, I kinda would want to trade my place with the man that will be born 50 to 100 years from now that will experience the rise of space travel.

 

 

My favorite scene from the movie was definitely

when Matthew went on that planet that was filled with water where 1 hour was equivalent to a set number of years on Earth due to the presence of a black hole bending the dimension of time itself.

 

The whole movie itself was pretty amazing however. The ending was mysterious, I still do not understand to this day how

he wrote morse code to his daughter

.

 

Although the setting was a little dramatic

(the end of the world being within a couple of minutes away in the end)

it still was an excellent movie with great actors. Would definitely like to see a sequel to this.

[JuztBe]

he wrote morse code to his daughter

I understood it pretty easily, in that place movie changed from Sci-fi to fantasy. At least that's how I see it.

[yannickverc]

Yea it f**king amazes me how that movie is theoretically possible..

 

about the ending: MAJOR SPOILER

I think it went down like this. You see him floating in that weird dimension and he sees himself talking to his daughter. He travelled back in time and wants to tell himself not to go. Since he'll never see his daughter again.

[Atmos]

Honestly, as a movie it was fine, but I couldn't take off my science hat at all during it, and thusly could never get into it. There are so many points at which they would have died from exposure or just straight up gravity that its not even funny. That and I will never forget the most retarded thing I've ever hear come out of a "scientists" movie mouth. "Its an older blackhole, so is weaker and not spinning as quickly" - That's not how blackholes work AT ALL. They work based off of gravity, that's it, just gravity. The reason they are so dangerous is because of gravity, which means, the older it gets, the more time it has to absorb matter and grow even more powerful. The oldest blackholes, are the largest, and most deadly, not the other way around.

[Guest]

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Also note the fact that they needed to find a planet more suitable because Earth was near a black hole yet they risked going to a planet that was circling a black hole too

 

Let Tyson do the talking:

 

[Albatross]

Also note the fact that they needed to find a planet more suitable because Earth was near a black hole yet they risked going to a planet that was circling a black hole too

 

Let Tyson do the talking:

 

 

What? No. They needed to find a suitable replacement for Earth because the planet was royally farked up, not because it was near a black hole. And given that even if the planet had planned out near a black hole, it still would have been better than the steaming pile of dung the Earth had become.

[Guest]

And given that even if the planet had planned out near a black hole, it still would have been better than the steaming pile of dung the Earth had become.

It wouldn't neccessarily be better than Earth given the ff:

 

1) Hawking Radiation would destroy us if we don't have enough gear to protect us (which is impossible given that nobody has made any material that can withstand radiation for long periods of time)

 

2) The book made by Kip Thorne (One of the executive producers) noted the fact that they could have addresed the issue better by going to a safer planet, but they needed something more dramatic and more fiction than science approach in choosing the planet.

 

3) We have many planets and moon in the solar system that are more habitable than the planets they discovered in interstellar eg; Europa

 

4) Given that the planet would have been in the outer event horizon of a black hole, we wouldn't have enough power to escape the pull of gravity given the general theory of relativity and like the book of Kip Thorne states as "near death" pull. Unless of course we take into account fuel over power in rocket science which is way too complicated to explain in text

[Tech_Dreamer]

Matt damon needs to stop going to outer space just to get stuck there, Just sayin'

[Albatross]

It wouldn't neccessarily be better than Earth given the ff:

 

1) Hawking Radiation would destroy us if we don't have enough gear to protect us (which is impossible given that nobody has made any material that can withstand radiation for long periods of time)

 

2) The book made by Kip Thorne (One of the executive producers) noted the fact that they could have addresed the issue better by going to a safer planet, but they needed something more dramatic and more fiction than science approach in choosing the planet.

 

3) We have many planets and moon in the solar system that are more habitable than the planets they discovered in interstellar

 

4) Given that the planet would have been in the outer event horizon of a black hole, we wouldn't have enough power to escape the pull of gravity given the general theory of relativity and like the book of Kip Thorne states as "near death" pull. Unless of course we take into account fuel over power in rocket science which is way too complicated to explain in text

 

• We haven't, but in the movie they have advance technology, prepped to live on potential worlds.
• Okay. Doesn't change that 1; they didn't escape earth because of a black hole 2) that a different planet with life left in it was better than a dying turd
• In this movie, they were visited and were known not to be hospitable like earth. they needed a planet just like earth, which you see Brand on at the end of the film.
• it isn't impossible. even Neil doesn't state it as an impossibility.

Regardless of any of that, I was just pointing out your comment to be wrong in relation to the film. That's not the plot line...

[yannickverc]

Matt damon needs to stop going to outer space just to get stuck there, Just sayin'

Coming November 2018. "Saving Astro Matt"

[ShadowCaptain]

Honestly, as a movie it was fine, but I couldn't take off my science hat at all during it, and thusly could never get into it. There are so many points at which they would have died from exposure or just straight up gravity that its not even funny. That and I will never forget the most retarded thing I've ever hear come out of a "scientists" movie mouth. "Its an older blackhole, so is weaker and not spinning as quickly" - That's not how blackholes work AT ALL. They work based off of gravity, that's it, just gravity. The reason they are so dangerous is because of gravity, which means, the older it gets, the more time it has to absorb matter and grow even more powerful. The oldest blackholes, are the largest, and most deadly, not the other way around.

 

But as they grow, they can also get less dense as the even horizon widens, meaning some massive black holes are actually not that powerful

 

 

Matt damon needs to stop going to outer space just to get stuck there, Just sayin'

 

But he is very good at it

[ALwin]

The entire plot of Skyfall (even with the plot having a lot of holes) made more sense than Interstellar.

[Albatross]

The entire plot of Skyfall (even with the plot having a lot of holes) made more sense than Interstellar.

 

But it makes perfect sense, even with the liberties taken on certain scenes...

[ALwin]

But it makes perfect sense, even with the liberties taken on certain scenes...

 

I don't disagree about the scientific accuracy in the movie.  It's the other things in the movie's plot, like considering a planet close to a blackhole as a viable future habitat for humanity or that "love" will somehow let you communicate with people.

[ShadowCaptain]

I don't disagree about the scientific accuracy in the movie.  It's the other things in the movie's plot, like considering a planet close to a blackhole as a viable future habitat for humanity or that "love" will somehow let you communicate with people.

 

Well, if for example our sun turned into a blackhole tomorrow, it would still only be as strong as it is now, in terms of its gravitational pull on earth

 

If the blackhole is stable and is not swallowing things and growing in mass, and the planet it in a stable orbit, then you absolutely could live next to a black hole

[Albatross]

I don't disagree about the scientific accuracy in the movie.  It's the other things in the movie's plot, like considering a planet close to a blackhole as a viable future habitat for humanity or that "love" will somehow let you communicate with people.

 

They actually weren't all that close to the black hole, so it isn't exactly instant death if we did live on a planet like that (plus it was for time, which humanity desperately needed),  and Neil addresses it some if you wish to see it in the above video. As for the love bit...that's not how it worked.

[ALwin]

Well, if for example our sun turned into a blackhole tomorrow, it would still only be as strong as it is now, in terms of its gravitational pull on earth

 

If the blackhole is stable and is not swallowing things and growing in mass, and the planet it in a stable orbit, then you absolutely could live next to a black hole

 

I'm not certain, first of all the different stages Sol would have to go through before turning into a blackhole (not certain Sol is even capable of becoming one) would probably wipe us out.  But as you said, if Sol turned suddenly to a blackhole tomorrow by skipping all the intermediary steps, the gravitational distortions and the different forms of radiation... is Earth at a safe distance?

[Kalle Hänninen]

So this is like V'ger for Millennials. 

 

Well, if for example our sun turned into a blackhole tomorrow, it would still only be as strong as it is now, in terms of its gravitational pull on earth

 

If the blackhole is stable and is not swallowing things and growing in mass, and the planet it in a stable orbit, then you absolutely could live next to a black hole

Not absolutely. n-body problem is almost unsolvable.

[ALwin]

They actually weren't all that close to the black hole, so it isn't exactly instant death if we did live on a planet like that (plus it was for time, which humanity desperately needed),  and Neil addresses it some if you wish to see it in the above video. As for the love bit...that's not how it worked.

 

As I said, I am not discounting the scientific accuracy, I am talking about the rationalization of considering such a "location".

[Albatross]

As I said, I am not discounting the scientific accuracy, I am talking about the rationalization of considering such a "location".

 

The rationalization is that earth was in an even worst state, completely unlivable, and they needed a solution—even if temporary or dangerous. Besides, they didn't know how bad it was until they got to the planet.

[ShadowCaptain]

As I said, I am not discounting the scientific accuracy, I am talking about the rationalization of considering such a "location".

 

Assuming it just instantly turned into a black hole, then yes, since it would not have MORE gravity as it does now, since its mass would remain the same

 

blackholes only gain gravitational power by absorbing more mass which increases the gravitational pull, if there was no extra mass absorbed, the solar system would continue to function as normal

 

We would freeze but thats a different point

 

 

(our sun will not turn into a blackhole, just making a point )

[ALwin]

The rationalization is that earth was in an even worst state, completely unlivable, and they needed a solution—even if temporary or dangerous. Besides, they didn't know how bad it was until they got to the planet.

 

Wouldn't a planet like Mars or another planetary body in our Solar System be a better choice?  Even a space station orbiting the Earth.

[Guest]

(our sun will not turn into a blackhole, just making a point )

^this

[ShadowCaptain]

^this

 

yeah but not the point i was making, i was saying if a blackhole is stable as in, not absorbing things and increasing gravitational pull, and things were orbiting around

 

then it would be completely fine, obviously it might have weird tidal forces like on the water covered planet in the movie but it would not get pulled into the blackhole

[Albatross]

Wouldn't a planet like Mars or another planetary body in our Solar System be a better choice?  Even a space station orbiting the Earth.

 

No, they wanted a hospitable planet like Earth, not one they had to prepare to be lived on (film goes into details on this). They didn't have the time or money (or human resources) to prepare something like that. Besides, they still would have needed a way to lift their giant ship-thingy off the surface of earth.