5960x overclocking confusion?

[EternalSeeker]

So I decided to turn off OC genie which set my cpu to 3.7Ghz at 1.049v. With oc genie off and intel boost on I get 3.5Ghz at 1.064v. Now I tried to OC my pc to 4.7Ghz and it seemed fine, windows booted did a pass of prime 95 for 30 mins, temp at full load got me to around 70 c, but the core voltage seemed wack to me, in the bios it read approx 1.365v but in cpu z i was reaching 1.452v, why is there such discrepancies? I did the oc by changing the cpu clock ratio to 47 and changed the core ring ratio to not be dynamic. Pc specs on my profile. Am I missing something in overclocking or bad chip?

[Tedster]

So I decided to turn off OC genie which set my cpu to 3.7Ghz at 1.049v. With oc genie off and intel boost on I get 3.5Ghz at 1.064v. Now I tried to OC my pc to 4.7Ghz and it seemed fine, windows booted did a pass of prime 95 for 30 mins, temp at full load got me to around 70 c, but the core voltage seemed wack to me, in the bios it read approx 1.365v but in cpu z i was reaching 1.452v, why is there such discrepancies? I did the oc by changing the cpu clock ratio to 47 and changed the core ring ratio to not be dynamic. Pc specs on my profile. Am I missing something in overclocking or bad chip?

If you were running Prime95, stop. It puts unrealistic loads on the CPU and something like AIDA64 will be better.

 

Posting your specs here for convenience:

[pokechat8978]

So I decided to turn off OC genie which set my cpu to 3.7Ghz at 1.049v. With oc genie off and intel boost on I get 3.5Ghz at 1.064v. Now I tried to OC my pc to 4.7Ghz and it seemed fine, windows booted did a pass of prime 95 for 30 mins, temp at full load got me to around 70 c, but the core voltage seemed wack to me, in the bios it read approx 1.365v but in cpu z i was reaching 1.452v, why is there such discrepancies? I did the oc by changing the cpu clock ratio to 47 and changed the core ring ratio to not be dynamic. Pc specs on my profile. Am I missing something in overclocking or bad chip?

Don't use Prime95, first of all. Aida64 is better.

Did you disable Auto Voltage (Or whatever it's called)? Try setting a constant voltage.

[EternalSeeker]

Don't use Prime95, first of all. Aida64 is better.

Did you disable Auto Voltage (Or whatever it's called)? Try setting a constant voltage.

 

I tried to set the core voltage but if i try any number (even itself) the field gets highlighted red in the bios

[Curufinwe_wins]

Yea he is using auto voltage. Also to run long times at that voltages you generally need to increase vin (or vcin as it is sometimes confusingly labeled)

For the love of all that is holy please don't use automatic voltage.

[Analog]

I tried to set the core voltage but if i try any number (even itself) the field gets highlighted red in the bios

 

Ok, so obviously you are doing something wrong here. First off, what board are you using? Have you upgraded the BIOS? If not, do that. Then update CPU-Z. Older versions of CPU-Z may not read the voltage correctly on X99. What kind of cooling do you have?

 

Having said all that, do not overclock on auto voltage. I can't stress this enough! It is a recipe for disaster and will damage your processor if you run it like that for 24/7, since it will put way to much volts through your processor. The only thing that would want to do is overclock by setting a constant voltage, which in your case should not by any means exceed 1.35V. Anything above that will kick so much heat that you will need at least a quad 120mm rad to cool it down. 5960X's in general don't really overclock past 4.5GHz with conventional cooling. Maybe 4.6GHz, but that is if you got a golden sample. 

 

What you could try in order to establish a baseline for your processor, meaning is it a good or a bad overclocker, is to set the V-core voltage to 1.3V and the core ratio to 45 (giving you 4.5GHz). test for 30min with Aida64. If the test fails, you have bad overclocker and you will need more volts to keep the processor stable at that speed. If it passes, you can lower your voltage by increments of 0.05 and do the stability test again. 

 

PS: For any voltage higher than 1.25V on a 5960X you will need a proper high-performance AIO (H100i / H110) or a custom loop. 

[EternalSeeker]

Ok, so obviously you are doing something wrong here. First off, what board are you using? Have you upgraded the BIOS? If not, do that. Then update CPU-Z. Older versions of CPU-Z may not read the voltage correctly on X99. What kind of cooling do you have?

 

Having said all that, do not overclock on auto voltage. I can't stress this enough! It is a recipe for disaster and will damage your processor if you run it like that for 24/7, since it will put way to much volts through your processor. The only thing that would want to do is overclock by setting a constant voltage, which in your case should not by any means exceed 1.35V. Anything above that will kick so much heat that you will need at least a quad 120mm rad to cool it down. 5960X's in general don't really overclock past 4.5GHz with conventional cooling. Maybe 4.6GHz, but that is if you got a golden sample. 

 

What you could try in order to establish a baseline for your processor, meaning is it a good or a bad overclocker, is to set the V-core voltage to 1.3V and the core ratio to 45 (giving you 4.5GHz). test for 30min with Aida64. If the test fails, you have bad overclocker and you will need more volts to keep the processor stable at that speed. If it passes, you can lower your voltage by increments of 0.05 and do the stability test again. 

 

PS: For any voltage higher than 1.25V on a 5960X you will need a proper high-performance AIO (H100i / H110) or a custom loop. 

 

Okay so I have a kraken x61 AIO cooler, will update to latest BIOS when I get the time today. So I should first set a constant voltage of 1.3V? And should I set the core ratio as Auto or try a core ratio of 45?

[Nena Trinity]

P95 = CPU killer, also use anything else to test!

[EternalSeeker]

Weird guess my cpu is a bad oc'er? It won't take 45 ratio for the core at 1.3v. Bios says unstable oc. By the way its a MSI X99S sli plus mobo. I don't get how oc genie can run at 3.7 at such a low voltage of 1.064v but can't take 1.3v....sigh

[Analog]

Okay so I have a kraken x61 AIO cooler, will update to latest BIOS when I get the time today. So I should first set a constant voltage of 1.3V? And should I set the core ratio as Auto or try a core ratio of 45?

 

Yes. Exactly! 

[EternalSeeker]

Yes. Exactly! 

 

Okay so either I am really bad at bios tweaks or msi bios is just shit. It wont take any clock rate at 1.3v. I got it to be able to run AIDA 64 with these two settings 

 

Setting 1:

 

Setting 2:

 

I have set back to default just until I finish this icem file for ansys but I am wondering which setting should I use? I was thinking of an overclock because when I run ICEM to render mesh on a 3d object, the software slows down when my mesh size increases, i guess rendering is where it slows down in, our lab said higher clocks help so that's why. Which setting should I use?

[Analog]

Okay so either I am really bad at bios tweaks or msi bios is just shit. It wont take any clock rate at 1.3v. I got it to be able to run AIDA 64 with these two settings 

 

Setting 1:

Setting 2:

 

 

I have set back to default just until I finish this icem file for ansys but I am wondering which setting should I use? I was thinking of an overclock because when I run ICEM to render mesh on a 3d object, the software slows down when my mesh size increases, i guess rendering is where it slows down in, our lab said higher clocks help so that's why. Which setting should I use?

 

I would use the second setting. Just don't go above 1.35V if you value the life of your processor. Anything above that will cause your processor to thermal throttle under prolonged high loads. Aida has a stress test utility. You can find it under the option settings. Just run it for 30min and see how your temps will be; they should not exceed 80C during the stress-testing procedure. 

[EternalSeeker]

I would use the second setting. Just don't go above 1.35V if you value the life of your processor. Anything above that will cause your processor to thermal throttle under prolonged high loads. Aida has a stress test utility. You can find it under the option settings. Just run it for 30min and see how your temps will be; they should not exceed 80C during the stress-testing procedure.

Upon further research and looking at other tech website, I am getting the same voltage settings as them, so it is possibly due to the fact that my board can't overclock well. Because at such low voltage it runs oc genie and at stock its voltage is really low, so why is that it can't oc with less voltage. Sigh.