AMD FX for streaming question

[OddsCrazyStuff]

I need to replace the motherboard, RAM and CPU in my current streaming PC. Its the motherboard that went, but cant track down a FM2+ board that uses ddr2 and since the CPU can no longer be bought as well, so I'm upgrading all 3.

The best CPU I can afford is AMD FX-8320 Black Edition, unless the stock cooler is not good enough for 100% usage for several hours.

Then its AMD FX-6300 Black Edition and Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo or Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo, that I can afford. I put both in because 212 seems harder to mount, bases on user reviews.

I plan on buying Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P and Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9 to pair it with.

I also have a Saphhire HD 6870 and a 500W PSU from the old build.

I'm streaming with Xsplit and Logitech c920, so the setup needs to be able to handle it.

So can I go for the 8-core or do I need to get the 6-core with new cooler?

[techguru]

I need to replace the motherboard, RAM and CPU in my current streaming PC. Its the motherboard that went, but cant track down a FM2+ board that uses ddr2 and since the CPU can no longer be bought as well, so I'm upgrading all 3.

The best CPU I can afford is AMD FX-8320 Black Edition, unless the stock cooler is not good enough for 100% usage for several hours.

Then its AMD FX-6300 Black Edition and Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo or Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo, that I can afford. I put both in because 212 seems harder to mount, bases on user reviews.

I plan on buying Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P and Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9 to pair it with.

I also have a Saphhire HD 6870 and a 500W PSU from the old build.

I'm streaming with Xsplit and Logitech c920, so the setup needs to be able to handle it.

So can I go for the 8-core or do I need to get the 6-core with new cooler?

bad setup...would be better for a i5 4460

[techguru]

what is your total budget for this upgrade?

[alexhelvetica]

bad setup...would be better for a i5 4460

An FX is just as good (or better) for streaming.

An i5 would be better for gaming.

[techguru]

An FX is just as good (or better) for streaming.

An i5 would be better for gaming.

if all he does with it is stream ..maybe...but not stream and game at the same time

[alexhelvetica]

if all he does with it is stream ..maybe...but not stream and game at the same time

It is very close.

And a FX 6350 or FX 6300 that was OC'd would have basically identical performance in stream and gaming at the same time for $100 less!

[OddsCrazyStuff]

what is your total budget for this upgrade?

About what those parts will cost me. Its a bit hard to convert since there is limited choices in the stores I buy from.

[OddsCrazyStuff]

It is very close.

And a FX 6350 or FX 6300 that was OC'd would have basically identical performance in stream and gaming at the same time for $100 less!

Wont the 2 extra cores be better for a dedicated streaming pc?

[SolOS]

Personally I have an fx6300 OCd to 4.3 and haven't run into any real restrictions on what I can do, I say get an fx6300 over 83xx just because it is easier to cool and a better OCer. besides IPC is more important than having 8 cores right now

[alexhelvetica]

Wont the 2 extra cores be better for a dedicated streaming pc?

Yes it will.

I would get an FX 6300 (with a mild OC) or FX 6350 or better FX.

 

The AMD cores are not as powerful as intel cores, thats why that i5 4460 and FX 6350 are about equal in streaming.

[OddsCrazyStuff]

Yes it will.

I would get an FX 6300 (with a mild OC) or FX 6350 or better FX.

The AMD cores are not as powerful as intel cores, thats why that i5 4460 and FX 6350 are about equal in streaming.

What about FX 8320? It should be the strongest option.

[OddsCrazyStuff]

Okay, it seems I have a little more money then I thought, so I can go with a cooler on both options.

So then the question is, FX-6300 with a decent cooler (like Noctua NH-U14S) or FX-8320 with a cheap cooler (like Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo).

[alexhelvetica]

What about FX 8320? It should be the strongest option.

If you can afford it, Yes.

if not, OC the FX 6350 or FX 6300.

[Prysin]

Wont the 2 extra cores be better for a dedicated streaming pc?

first off that mobo is not good you want the UD3P for FX 8xxx

second off, nope, the 2 cores wont do much.

Get a FX 6350 + a Gigabyte 970 UD3P

[BootsRicky]

if all he does with it is stream ..maybe...but not stream and game at the same time

I can I can speak from my friend's experience, he owns a 8350 (essentially a 8320 but just a bit better) along with an ASUS Poseidon 780 (Essentially a 780Ti if we're talking performance.) He has no bottlenecks whatsoever and has never had an issue with streaming which he does frequently on the same PC. So a 8320 will probably do just fine with both game and streaming on the same PC. So yeah, 8320 is the way to go, better performance than Intel for cheaper.

[techguru]

if you can afford it..your best option would be a xeon e3 1231v3

[OddsCrazyStuff]

first off that mobo is not good you want the UD3P for FX 8xxx

second off, nope, the 2 cores wont do much.

Get a FX 6350 + a Gigabyte 970 UD3P

I cant find that motherboard in the shop I'm using. Only one that is close is Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3.

[BootsRicky]

I cant find that motherboard in the shop I'm using. Only one that is close is Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3.

MSI motherboards are very nice if they're in your price range.

[Prysin]

I cant find that motherboard in the shop I'm using. Only one that is close is Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3.

then that is the better choice. the DS3P doesnt have a solid enough power delivery to host a 8 core CPU, let alone overclock one

[OddsCrazyStuff]

Lets just do it like this. Here is the shop I'm using, budget is 3300 NOK.

CPU https://www.komplett.no/subcategory/11204

Motherboard https://www.komplett.no/category/10111

RAM https://www.komplett.no/subcategory/11209

Cooling https://www.komplett.no/category/10462?subcategory=10470_CPU%20-%20Vannkj%C3%B8ling&subcategory=10547_CPU%20%E2%80%93%20Luftkj%C3%B8ling

So please keep suggestions till what I have avaliable.

[OddsCrazyStuff]

then that is the better choice. the DS3P doesnt have a solid enough power delivery to host a 8 core CPU, let alone overclock one

The problem with that, is that then I cant afford a cooler, so I'm stuck with the stock one.

[BootsRicky]

Lets just do it like this. Here is the shop I'm using, budget is 3300 NOK.

CPU https://www.komplett.no/subcategory/11204

Motherboard https://www.komplett.no/category/10111

RAM https://www.komplett.no/subcategory/11209

Cooling https://www.komplett.no/category/10462?subcategory=10470_CPU%20-%20Vannkj%C3%B8ling&subcategory=10547_CPU%20%E2%80%93%20Luftkj%C3%B8ling

So please keep suggestions till what I have avaliable.

So for Americans he can spend $400, in other words he is kinda screwed in the good cpu/motherboard  department. Just go with the 8320 and cooler and spend the rest of your budget on the motherboard or the gpu too if you don't already have one.

[Dabombinable]

I can I can speak from my friend's experience, he owns a 8350 (essentially a 8320 but just a bit better) along with an ASUS Poseidon 780 (Essentially a 780Ti if we're talking performance.) He has no bottlenecks whatsoever and has never had an issue with streaming which he does frequently on the same PC. So a 8320 will probably do just fine with both game and streaming on the same PC. So yeah, 8320 is the way to go, better performance than Intel for cheaper.

:rolleyes: And we have some one else who doesn't understand the term "bottleneck"

 

It would be good for streaming, however when it comes to games they are really bad, with anything over an R9 280X getting bottlenecked, and even then the minimum FPS become an issue.

[BootsRicky]

:rolleyes: And we have some one else who doesn't understand the term "bottleneck"

 

It would be good for streaming, however when it comes to games they are really bad, with anything over an R9 280X getting bottlenecked, and even then the minimum FPS become an issue.

Let me put it like this, my brother actually had a i7 4790k and the same GPU, and they had near identiaal FPS, even while my friend was streaming and my brother was just playing. The GPU i mentioned is VERY good, I know what bottleneck means, and I know there wasn't one on either of their PCs. Granted he had a 8350 and not a 8320, but I think it should be about the same, but I can't say for sure because I don't know if anyone was overclocking because I never asked, however the man at topic really should overclock. But I appreciate the feedback.

[Nena Trinity]

FX CPUs are good but they need a 6+2 VRM for a 125W as minimum and then there is very little room for OC!

 

Streaming likes more treads so I guess your best bet is FX(more affordable) or Xeon?