AMD FX for streaming question

[Dabombinable]

Let me put it like this, my brother actually had a i7 4790k and the same GPU, and they had near identiaal FPS, even while my friend was streaming and my brother was just playing. The GPU i mentioned is VERY good, I know what bottleneck means, and I know there wasn't one on either of their PCs. Granted he had a 8350 and not a 8320, but I think it should be about the same, but I can't say for sure because I don't know if anyone was overclocking because I never asked, however the man at topic really should overclock. But I appreciate the feedback.

If you can monitor the GPU load, subtract the reading from 100 to tell by how much the graphics card is being bottlenecked.

[Prysin]

Lets just do it like this. Here is the shop I'm using, budget is 3300 NOK.

CPU https://www.komplett.no/subcategory/11204

Motherboard https://www.komplett.no/category/10111

RAM https://www.komplett.no/subcategory/11209

Cooling https://www.komplett.no/category/10462?subcategory=10470_CPU%20-%20Vannkj%C3%B8ling&subcategory=10547_CPU%20%E2%80%93%20Luftkj%C3%B8ling

So please keep suggestions till what I have avaliable.

 

https://www.komplett.no/product/819931/datautstyr/hovedkort/amd-socket/msi-970-gaming-socket-am3

kjøp detta. Det er et solid hovedkort, og har bra nok VRM for en medium overclock

[Nena Trinity]

If that board is designed to take a 125w then you can get a FX-8350 or 8370!  (a cooler is a good idea cause stock is loud!)

 

https://www.komplett.no/product/819931/datautstyr/hovedkort/amd-socket/msi-970-gaming-socket-am3

kjøp detta. Det er et solid hovedkort, og har bra nok VRM for en medium overclock

This board is good but not best! I myself love to use it.  

[BootsRicky]

If you can monitor the GPU load, subtract the reading from 100 to tell by how much the graphics card is being bottlenecked.

Personally I can't do that for I don't own either rig and my brother is at collage, all I can attest is that they had about the same FPS, within 5 of each other at most games.

[BootsRicky]

 

If that board is designed to take a 125w then you can get a FX-8350 or 8370!  (a cooler is a good idea cause stock is loud!)

 

This board is good but not best! I myself love to use it.

 

8350, the 8370 is a waste of money as the 9000 series are about the same price and better, granted they're 225w I think and don't work for many boards.

[Prysin]

If you can monitor the GPU load, subtract the reading from 100 to tell by how much the graphics card is being bottlenecked.

depending on the game, a FX CAN hold up.

 

but it also depends if he has AMD or Nvidia GPU, given their difference in drawcall performance.

[Dabombinable]

depending on the game, a FX CAN hold up.

 

but it also depends if he has AMD or Nvidia GPU, given their difference in drawcall performance.

You do realise that the games an FX 8350 can hold up in can be listed on 1 hand?

[Nena Trinity]

8350, the 8370 is a waste of money as the 9000 series are about the same price and better, granted they're 225w I think and don't work for many boards.

That CPU will fry normal boards there is ONLY two boards that can use that behemoth! 

[BootsRicky]

depending on the game, a FX CAN hold up.

 

but it also depends if he has AMD or Nvidia GPU, given their difference in drawcall performance.

The card in question is Nvidia and the games being played were mostly casual, like CS:GO, TF2, etc.. but also stuff like GTA V, Wolfenstein the New Order, and games like that.

[OddsCrazyStuff]

With an upgrade kit so can I get the following for 2995 NOK:

AMD FX-8350 Black Edition, ASUS M5A97 R2.0 and HyperX Fury DDR3 1600MHz 8GB Black.

And I can live with spening 44 NOK over budget and get Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU, along with it.

But is that worth it or should I try and find another combo in budget?

[Dabombinable]

That CPU will fry normal boards there is ONLY two boards that can use that behemoth! 

Which is one of the reasons why Intel never made the 220W 4GHz Pentium 4-there would never be that many motherboards which could support it (that and cooling it would have been an issue as well).

[BootsRicky]

That CPU will fry normal boards there is ONLY two boards that can use that behemoth! 

Well more than 2, I own one. Many of them aren't advertised as being able to use them, such as mine. And also some require BIOS updates to be able to use them, also like mine.

[BootsRicky]

With an upgrade kit so can I get the following for 2995 NOK:

AMD FX-8350 Black Edition, ASUS M5A97 R2.0 and HyperX Fury DDR3 1600MHz 8GB Black.

And I can live with spening 44 NOK over budget and get Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU, along with it.

But is that worth it or should I try and find another combo in budget?

That sounds like a good setup, but personally I'd go for a better motherboard and cheap out on ram for the time being as ram can be added at any time.

[Prysin]

You do realise that the games an FX 8350 can hold up in can be listed on 1 hand?

can handle at 144Hz, yes

at 60Hz/FPS -> shitloads... more or less most.

 

the limitation does come back to drawcalls though. Higher IPC = more drawcalls.... this is why with FX, just lowering one or two graphic setting, like motion blur (ugh) or AA will improve FPS quite a bit.

 

FoV/Render distance doesnt help that much. Been there done that, didnt do much.

 

I will not argue that Intel is better. They are, the end.

However if OP wants FX, let him have FX.

 

It is not like a FX 8320 cannot produce the FPS you want. It is just that it wont produce MORE then you want.

[BootsRicky]

can handle at 144Hz, yes

at 60Hz/FPS -> shitloads... more or less most.

THIS MAN SEES THE TRUTH. AMD WILL RISE AGAIN! Oh, sorry I didn't mean to lay down a truth bomb like that. But yes indeed, the 8350 and the other AMD CPUs around it are VERY competent chips for anything.

[Dabombinable]

can handle at 144Hz, yes

at 60Hz/FPS -> shitloads... more or less most.

At 60fps with good minimum frame rates-which are important for smooth and enjoyable gameplay-still counting the games on 1 hand.

[Nena Trinity]

Which is one of the reasons why Intel never made the 220W 4GHz Pentium 4-there would never be that many motherboards which could support it (that and cooling it would have been an issue as well).

True!

 

Well more than 2, I own one. Many of them aren't advertised as being able to use them, such as mine. And also some require BIOS updates to be able to use them, also like mine.

 

Erm I am sure it throttles then... Or you have one of the two!

[BootsRicky]

True!

 

Erm I am sure it throttles then... Or you have one of the two!

I can't say that it will or won't throttle because I don't own one of the 9000s but hey. Also, good job just being like, really optimistic and seeming to be happy in all your posts, never seen such a jolly fellow.

[OddsCrazyStuff]

That sounds like a good setup, but personally I'd go for a better motherboard and cheap out on ram for the time being as ram can be added at any time.

Its an upgrade kit, so I cant change the parts. And its a 400 NOK saving to get the upgrade kit, so would have to change all parts to get within budget.

[BootsRicky]

Its an upgrade kit, so I cant change the parts. And its a 400 NOK saving to get the upgrade kit (which would have put me over), so would have to change all parts to get within budget.

Well I can't really help then I guess, but if that 400 NOK is out of your budget then it sounds like a great setup.

[Nena Trinity]

I can't say that it will or won't throttle because I don't own one of the 9000s but hey. Also, good job just being like, really optimistic and seeming to be happy in all your posts, never seen such a jolly fellow.

[Prysin]

At 60fps with good minimum frame rates-which are important for smooth and enjoyable gameplay-still counting the games on 1 hand.

i know you wont listen to me, but i had less issues with min FPS with my FX then my i7... the FX just hits a ceiling at which it cannot push more drawcalls and it sits there. Yes it does fluctuate like any CPU, as does my I7 thought....

[BootsRicky]

i know you wont listen to me, but i had less issues with min FPS with my FX then my i7... the FX just hits a ceiling at which it cannot push more drawcalls and it sits there. Yes it does fluctuate like any CPU, as does my I7 thought....

DROPPING TRUTH BOMBS LIKE IT'S WORLD WAR II ERA JAPAN

[Prysin]

Its an upgrade kit, so I cant change the parts. And its a 400 NOK saving to get the upgrade kit, so would have to change all parts to get within budget.

ikke kjøp det. bare IKKE gjør det....

Kjøp delene hver for seg. Komplett er ikke alltid til å stole på (bare se på forslagene til ferdigbygde systemer... oftere enn ikke prøver de å selge deg strømforsyninger som ikke engang møter 80+ standarden....)

[Prysin]

Kjøp disse:

https://www.komplett.no/product/819931/datautstyr/hovedkort/amd-socket/msi-970-gaming-socket-am3

https://www.komplett.no/product/766048/datautstyr/prosessorer/amd-fx-8320-black-edition-socket-am3

https://www.komplett.no/product/812857/datautstyr/minnebrikker/hyperx-fury-ddr3-1866mhz-8gb-red#

 

for skjermkort hvis du trenger et nytt et:

https://www.komplett.no/product/846401/datautstyr/skjermkort/pci-express/sapphire-radeon-nitro-r9-390-8gb-gddr5