How much FPS would i gain?

[lovingGamer]

So hi everyone, atm i have I3 4150 so far it's decent. In 2016 i would like to upgrade to I5 4440, I'd sell my I3 and add money to buy it.. now i have few questions

 

*How much FPS would i gain in games like: BF4 and GTA V (Maybe Skyrim too)

*Would in 2016 games need more than 4 Cores (I KNOW YOU ARE NOT A MAGICIAN AND YOU CAN'T PREDICT FUTURE!, Try to Guess what is likely to happen)

*How much I5 will drops in price in 2015 (10-15 EURO?, I hope!)

*How much is skylake I5 is better than I5 4440? (I'm not planing to buy skylake, just asking.)

 

 

Thanks!!!

[epicsmeat]

If you were to upgrade to an i5 4440 you would only see a few frames increase and judging on what you said Im guessing you dont have much of a budget so I wouldnt recommend Skylake as you would have to upgrade your motherboard and ram.

[netherbawss235]

 

 

*How much I5 will drops in price in 2015 (10-15 EURO?, I hope!)

Wait for cyber monday Nov, 30

[Alurit]

isn't the i5 4460 cost the same? cause if it does then go with that instead of the 4440

[lovingGamer]

 

If you were to upgrade to an i5 4440 you would only see a few frames increase and judging on what you said Im guessing you dont have much of a budget so I wouldnt recommend Skylake as you would have to upgrade your motherboard and ram.

yeah i know that is why i said i'm not buying skylake...
Living in bosnia is hard, 6 hours of works and you get paid 10 EURO

 

 

isn't the i5 4460 cost the same? cause if it does then go with that instead of the 4440

How much FPS boots would i get and it's 15 EURO more...
I don't feel like spending 15 EURO cause my dad works 6 Hours for 10 EURO

 

 

Wait for cyber monday Nov, 30

say what? We live in different countries

[Alurit]

How much FPS boots would i get and it's 15 EURO more...

I don't feel like spending 15 EURO cause my dad works 6 Hours for 10 EURO

it doesn't worth it if it costs more. it only worth it if it is the same price

[Fate]

So hi everyone, atm i have I3 4150 so far it's decent. In 2016 i would like to upgrade to I5 4440, I'd sell my I3 and add money to buy it.. now i have few questions

 

*How much FPS would i gain in games like: BF4 and GTA V (Maybe Skyrim too)

*Would in 2016 games need more than 4 Cores (I KNOW YOU ARE NOT A MAGICIAN AND YOU CAN'T PREDICT FUTURE!, Try to Guess what is likely to happen)

*How much I5 will drops in price in 2015 (10-15 EURO?, I hope!)

*How much is skylake I5 is better than I5 4440? (I'm not planing to buy skylake, just asking.)

 

 

Thanks!!!

Around 0-15 fps.

No, I'm 100% sure games will not need more than 4 cores, that'd be really dumb of the game developers.

Not much.

A 6600k is definitely better, but it's not even close to being worth the money it'd cost to upgrade to it in my opinion.

[lovingGamer]

Around 0-15 fps.

No, I'm 100% sure games will not need more than 4 cores, that'd be really dumb of the game developers.

Not much.

A 6600k is definitely better, but it's not even close to being worth the money it'd cost to upgrade to it in my opinion.

okay thanks for the answer!

[netherbawss235]

say what? We live in different countries

Oh nevermind, in the US we have a holiday at the end of november on the last monday we have tech deals.

[Hiebly]

How much FPS would i gain in games like: BF4 and GTA V (Maybe Skyrim too)

 

This depends on what video card you have and what settings or framerate you run. If you only have something like a GTX 750, the difference between a Core i3 and Core i5 are going to be pretty small in most games... but if you're playing with something more robust like an R9 290 then you would see pretty substantial games, since games like GTA V get real CPU hungry at high settings and framerates.

 

Checking your profile it says you have an R9 280X... so I'd say that your minimum framerates should improve pretty significantly and your average framerates improve pretty well too. Becaues I don't know what framerates and settings you're already playing at, I can't tell you exactly how much they will improve... but an i5 should have no problem driving BF4 at >60 FPS at ultra settings if it has enough GPU power, and GTA V it can sustain above 60 FPS about 95% of the time with enough GPU power.

 

I have a friend with the i3-4150 and R9 270 and he sees some dips to the 40s in GTA V and Battlefield 4, which I know would not happen if he had an i5.

 

With my i5-4690K at stock settings I found that in Battlefield 4 the CPU doesn't become a bottleneck at ultra settings until roughly 120-150 FPS (varies depending how much action is going on). So with the i5-4440 (~20% lower clock speed) I'd expect that if you wanted and adjusted settings accordingly you could play at 100+ FPS.

 

 

 

Would in 2016 games need more than 4 Cores (I KNOW YOU ARE NOT A MAGICIAN AND YOU CAN'T PREDICT FUTURE!, Try to Guess what is likely to happen)

 

Some games will likely require four cores to run smoothly, but there won't be any games that require MORE than four cores for a very long time. Four cores are going to be mainstream for at least another few years (probably until ~2018 I would guess), and then after the point that six to eight cores become mainstream quad cores will remain a very popular budget option. You can be confident that an i5 will last you quite some time.

 

Having said that, since you're saving up for it and clearly want it to last as long as possible, I'd suggest saving up an extra bit to get an i5-4590, 4670 or 4690 over the 4440 as you'll get an extra >15% clock speed which will make a difference in some more demanding titles, especially in a couple years.

 

 

How much I5 will drops in price in 2015 (10-15 EURO?, I hope!)

 

No idea... generally retail CPU prices don't drop much unless it takes much longer than expected for them to sell out. Haswell has maintained its price even though Skylake has now released, since there is still reasonable demand for Haswell.

 

I suspect that the cycle works like this:

 

They've stopped producing Haswell CPUs, but keep selling them at the old price. They now are producing Skylake CPUs which they charge extra for. Because some people still have LGA 1150 motherboards, or are deterred by the higher price of Skylake, people continue buying the Haswell CPUs. Then once they basically run out of Haswell CPUs, they release some more Skylake SKUs and drop the prices of the previous lineup to take the place of the Haswell previous pricing.

 

So basically I think Haswell CPUs will cost the same, but then in 6 months to a year Skylake prices will drop a bit once Haswell sells out.

 

 

How much is skylake I5 is better than I5 4440? (I'm not planing to buy skylake, just asking.)

 

Depends on which model you get. In real world performance the difference between Haswell and Skylake same-tier products is extremely small. So comparing an i5-4440 to an i5-6400... there's hardly any difference. You're looking at maybe 5% theoretical performance difference and in gains you're looking at virtually identical framerates. So there's nothing wrong with sticking with the Haswell generation as neither DDR4 nor the small IPC improvements in Skylake make a significant difference for gaming.

 

There's a bigger difference between the i5-4440 and i5-4590 than there is between the i5-4440 and i5-6400.

[tomas710]

say what? We live in different countries

I live in Chile but we have a cyber monday and sometimes the offers are good enough to buy from amazon, that's what i did and got some components very cheaply, i would say that more than thinking how many FPS you will gain is more a matter of smoother gameplay. You should see some gains, but overall, it will be more about higher minimum FPS, and that makes the experience a lot smoother.

[tomas710]

 

Just saw you have a 280X, that's a pretty powerful GPU and it's most likely being mildly bottlenecked by your i3 so, i'd say an i5 would be a considerable difference

[lovingGamer]

 

How much FPS would i gain in games like: BF4 and GTA V (Maybe Skyrim too)

 

This depends on what video card you have and what settings or framerate you run. If you only have something like a GTX 750, the difference between a Core i3 and Core i5 are going to be pretty small in most games... but if you're playing with something more robust like an R9 290 then you would see pretty substantial games, since games like GTA V get real CPU hungry at high settings and framerates.

 

Checking your profile it says you have an R9 280X... so I'd say that your minimum framerates should improve pretty significantly and your average framerates improve pretty well too. Becaues I don't know what framerates and settings you're already playing at, I can't tell you exactly how much they will improve... but an i5 should have no problem driving BF4 at >60 FPS at ultra settings if it has enough GPU power, and GTA V it can sustain above 60 FPS about 95% of the time with enough GPU power.

 

I have a friend with the i3-4150 and R9 270 and he sees some dips to the 40s in GTA V and Battlefield 4, which I know would not happen if he had an i5.

 

With my i5-4690K at stock settings I found that in Battlefield 4 the CPU doesn't become a bottleneck at ultra settings until roughly 120-150 FPS (varies depending how much action is going on). So with the i5-4440 (~20% lower clock speed) I'd expect that if you wanted and adjusted settings accordingly you could play at 100+ FPS.

 

 

 

Would in 2016 games need more than 4 Cores (I KNOW YOU ARE NOT A MAGICIAN AND YOU CAN'T PREDICT FUTURE!, Try to Guess what is likely to happen)

 

Some games will likely require four cores to run smoothly, but there won't be any games that require MORE than four cores for a very long time. Four cores are going to be mainstream for at least another few years (probably until ~2018 I would guess), and then after the point that six to eight cores become mainstream quad cores will remain a very popular budget option. You can be confident that an i5 will last you quite some time.

 

Having said that, since you're saving up for it and clearly want it to last as long as possible, I'd suggest saving up an extra bit to get an i5-4590, 4670 or 4690 over the 4440 as you'll get an extra >15% clock speed which will make a difference in some more demanding titles, especially in a couple years.

 

 

How much I5 will drops in price in 2015 (10-15 EURO?, I hope!)

 

No idea... generally retail CPU prices don't drop much unless it takes much longer than expected for them to sell out. Haswell has maintained its price even though Skylake has now released, since there is still reasonable demand for Haswell.

 

I suspect that the cycle works like this:

 

They've stopped producing Haswell CPUs, but keep selling them at the old price. They now are producing Skylake CPUs which they charge extra for. Because some people still have LGA 1150 motherboards, or are deterred by the higher price of Skylake, people continue buying the Haswell CPUs. Then once they basically run out of Haswell CPUs, they release some more Skylake SKUs and drop the prices of the previous lineup to take the place of the Haswell previous pricing.

 

So basically I think Haswell CPUs will cost the same, but then in 6 months to a year Skylake prices will drop a bit once Haswell sells out.

 

 

How much is skylake I5 is better than I5 4440? (I'm not planing to buy skylake, just asking.)

 

Depends on which model you get. In real world performance the difference between Haswell and Skylake same-tier products is extremely small. So comparing an i5-4440 to an i5-6400... there's hardly any difference. You're looking at maybe 5% theoretical performance difference and in gains you're looking at virtually identical framerates. So there's nothing wrong with sticking with the Haswell generation as neither DDR4 nor the small IPC improvements in Skylake make a significant difference for gaming.

 

There's a bigger difference between the i5-4440 and i5-4590 than there is between the i5-4440 and i5-6400.

 

I have R9 280X

[Nena Trinity]

Get a better i5 than 4440...

[lovingGamer]

Get a better i5 than 4440...

why?

[Nena Trinity]

why?

Well you got a H board which means limited or no OC yes? Find strongest that is worth the money ya know?

[lovingGamer]

Well you got a H board which means limited or no OC yes? Find strongest that is worth the money ya know?

Sure, you give me 27$ more and i'll be able to buy it.. I'm not spending more than 100$, my plan is to sell my I3 4150 and add 100$ to buy I5 4440

[Nena Trinity]

Sure, you give me 27$ more and i'll be able to buy it.. I'm not spending more than 100$, my plan is to sell my I3 4150 and add 100$ to buy I5 4440

Hmm I see well its a improvement so go ahead!